The First Joker Sketch And Much More From Jerry Robinson!

The First Joker Sketch And Much More From Jerry Robinson!

Jerry Robinson, the man who first sketched The Joker talks about the early days of Batman and much more.

By Hawksblueyes - Oct 02, 2010 01:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: LA Times



While doing research for an article on Jerry Robinson and his Golden Age of Comics exhibit at the Skirball Cultural Center in Southern California, Geoff Boucher had the chance to talk with the man himself. The exhibit uses Robinson's collection of vintage comics along with his original artwork to frame the Golden Age of comics in the 30s and 40s.

Robinson is the creator or co contributor on many now famous Batman characters such as Two-Face, Alfred and The Joker.

Here are just a few quotes from the video...

"Of course no one knows how long a character is going to last. A good character, a memorable character has some contradiction in terms. So, in thinking up a new character and a new villain, I thought a villain that had a sense of humor would be different and hopefully memorable. And then one that looked bizarre at the same time visually, those were the main ingredients in The Joker. But it had certain elements that we can look back on now and we can identify that were part of the magical ingredient."

"What we did make up as we went along because it was a new media, it was a new genre of comics, a new way of telling a story. We were growing, we were kind of drawing for ourselves. We were kids ourselves, drawing what pleased us what was entertaining for us. We assumed that we were fairly representative of the community, maybe a little more eccentric of course."


"A good hero is as good as the villains. Heroes, they are inherently dull they've got to win. The villains are much more exciting."

Hawksblueyes: I wonder if he had any idea at the time, just how famous the psychotic clown he was sketching would become? Make sure you check out the video. It is certainly worth a watch.

 
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Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 10/2/2010, 1:29 PM
;P
airbeyonder18
airbeyonder18 - 10/2/2010, 1:55 PM
Very cool. If Joker was never created I would say that Two-Face would have been Batman's greates foe.
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 10/2/2010, 2:24 PM
This sounds like one extemely nice old man.
jusme6
jusme6 - 10/2/2010, 2:42 PM
Great find Hawks!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 10/2/2010, 3:29 PM
PROLLYTHE GREATEST VILLAIN OF ALL TIME, TO BAD NOBODY WILL PLAY HIM BECAUSE OF HEATH LEDGER'S PASSING...NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY JOKER AFTER SO MEMORABLE A PERFORMANCE...
rsalas
rsalas - 10/2/2010, 3:57 PM
That's how you know how iconic a hero is. When everyone knows who is arch enemy is. That's where D.C. has Marvel beat, people who don't even know comics know who Lex Luthor and the Joker are and that's because of the popularity of Superman and Batman. The closest Marvel has to those two are Spiderman and Captain America but people can't even name their arch enemies. You flash the Superman or Batman logo and most people can tell you who they represent. I don't think you would have that same result with Spidermans or Captain Americas logo. Those are my two favorite Marvel characters and I'm not hating just talking....okay I'll stop now.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 10/2/2010, 4:10 PM
DC IS ICONIC HEROES, MARVEL ICONIC HEROES WITH VARIETY...THING IS,AND THIS IS JUST ME, IF YOU HAVE ONE ARCH NEMISIS, THEN IT WILL BE TOLD A BILLION TIMES OVER AND YOU'LL PREDICT THE OUTCOME, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE JUST ONE NEMISIS IT BROADENS THE DANGER IT GIVES A VARIETY AND A OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH THE NEAR PERFECT HERO OFF GUARD, MARVEL HAS ALOT OF AWSOME VILLAINS, TO NOT BE ABLE TO NAME A NEMISIS OFF THE BAT FOR ALL OF THEM SAYS THAT ALL THE VILLAINS ARE EQUALLY DANGEROUS..HEROES HAVE TO SAY WTF SOMETIMES...
TheDarqueOne
TheDarqueOne - 10/2/2010, 4:11 PM
People said the same thing about Jack's Joker. Time will pass and another will take up the role. It will be a while and it should.

@rsalas

I get your point but I do not think knowledge extends all that far for DC either. Supes and Bats have a couple of decades on Spidey and the other Marvels but that is not that big of a difference.

And I think Captain America is a particularly bad example. He is very well known and as old as the DC mainstays. I would say he is every bit as well known as Superman. The difference is that Cap does not have one single enemy that stands out like Superman and Batman. Or rather he does but the guys name was Hitler.

joker22
joker22 - 10/2/2010, 4:16 PM
No One Will Ever Compare To Health Ledger's Performance Ever....Greatest Joker Ever xDDD.
rsalas
rsalas - 10/2/2010, 4:32 PM
@ GUNSMITH I hear what your saying brotha and you're right. But Superman and Batman do have other enemies that are equally as or more dangerous then Lex and the Joker. Theyre just more dangerous in other areas like Doomsday who ended up killing Superman and Bane broke Batman's back and don't get me wrong Marvels villan's are great and I think D.C. has awesome villian's too but its just interesting to me how those two stand out from the rest. In my personal opinion I think Superboy Prime is the worst of them all. He came real close to destroying the D.C. universe.
rsalas
rsalas - 10/2/2010, 4:46 PM
@ TheDarqueOne

You're right about Captain America. I guess that was a bad example. But as far as the extension of D.C.'s knowledge I would have to disagree with you. I'm not sure if you've ever read Identity Crisis and the events and tie ins that lead up to Infinite Crisis but that was the best and most exciting moment for me in comicbook reading. I loved how the story extended into other universes and brought out other heros and villians and how they tied everything up at the end. That story arch is what made me realize how brilliant Geoff Johns is as a writer. I've read other major story lines like Civil War and Secret Invasion and none of those come close to how deep and well written D.C.'s Infinite Crisis was.

connielingos
connielingos - 10/2/2010, 4:52 PM
An article came out several years ago in the defunct "Amazing Heroes" fanzine where the late Bob Kane was interviewed. There, he categorically denied Jerry Robinson as having any participation whatsoever in the conceptualization and depiction of the Joker (and Robin). That honor lies with Bill Finger and Bob. Instructions were just given to Robinson on the execution of how the drawing should look like.
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/2/2010, 5:09 PM
the joker maybe the best villain ever.

heath ledger is definetly the best joker ever.

but the dark knight came out over two years ago,how long are you willing to wait before the role is recast.

what length of time is to soon.

i think heath ledger would of wanted the joker to of been carried on after his death.

they didn't really wait around with the crow movies after brandon lee had died.
DDD
DDD - 10/2/2010, 7:13 PM
I once heard Ledger say that the movie was more important
than the actor, that the performance was more crucial than
the performer!

He would want the show to go on! Actors who have died
that played a certain character in a series of movies
have always been replaced by a living actor!

The best way to honor Heath's devotion to the character
and the production is for THE SHOW TO GO ON with
another fine actor doing his own take!

I would respect that myself! And I feel Heath would want it
that way! There is no dishonor in that!

BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 10/2/2010, 7:55 PM
@DDD, I agree.
On another note, Nolan isn't really big on easter eggs and references, but it might have been cool to design the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins after that original sketch.
cherisevill
cherisevill - 10/3/2010, 12:20 AM
That exhibit was actually here in Atlanta at the Bremen Jewish Heritage Museum last year. It was very well presented and had some great stuff. Definitely a worthwhile exhibit. Xtreme No
thedon786
thedon786 - 10/3/2010, 3:21 AM
big up the joker
TheDarqueOne
TheDarqueOne - 10/3/2010, 8:12 AM
@rsalas

Your description of Infinite Crisis is the very definition of personal preference. Not the best way to convince me. You are correct in your assumption that I read little of that Event. At the time I was only reading JSA and I think All-Star Batman. The JSA was not all that involved and Batman is an alternative universe (one where Black Canary and Bats get it on after a fight, right after a fight, goddamn Batman indeed!).

Kinda sad I missed Identity Crisis because I realize it was a transition event for DC.

I think that DC has a bit of a jump on Marvel but that some level of comic book knowledge is pretty common. The older one gets the more likely they are to have direct reading experience. Then there are people like my mother who has looked at a very few SuperHero comics but still knows quite a lot. In fact I bet she could ace a general comic book quiz even after all these years. All because when I was young I talked to her quite a bit about what I was reading. :)

Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 10/3/2010, 11:12 AM
connielingos: If you're the first person to create an image on paper or computer, I don't care how well it was described to you, you're a co creator.
TheDarqueOne
TheDarqueOne - 10/4/2010, 11:52 AM
@Anil

I give Johns a lot of credit but perhaps not quite that much. There are a few other talented people involved too. I love the guy he has given me some of my favorite live action moments on Smallville.

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