EDITORIAL: 5 Ways BATMAN V SUPERMAN Can Improve On MAN OF STEEL

EDITORIAL: 5 Ways BATMAN V SUPERMAN Can Improve On MAN OF STEEL

With announcements about Dawn of Justice seemingly rolling in daily, I thought I'd put together a list of 5 things WB/DC can do to ensure it beats Man Of Steel. Enjoy!

Editorial Opinion
By RebelVulcan - Aug 07, 2014 03:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman

I’m gonna get this out of the way quickly- I hated Man of Steel. In my opinion, it was a bloated, pretentious, preachy mess of a film that butchered the legacy of the original superhero. And while many do no share my opinion of this film, it definitely underwhelmed. Despite opening to $130 million, it failed to puncture the $700 million mark- and while this does not make it a flop by any means, WB were expecting it to break the $1 billion mark with ease. This is Superman we’re talking about.
Thankfully, DC have a chance to redeem themselves with Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice. And with that in mind, I’ve put together a list of 5 things WB/DC can do in order to ensure BVS:DOJ tops Man of Steel.

5. Properly Establish Superman’s Character
One thing I think MOS failed to do was actually show us who Superman is. We never really learn much about his character, other than he likes to save people and being an alien is tough. For a movie that was supposed to focus on re-introducing Superman to modern audiences, they never really gave us a proper insight into his character. But in this movie, they have a great opportunity to showcase his character by contrasting him with Batman. Supes and Bats are at opposite ends of the spectrum- whereas Superman embodies hope and optimism, Batman is a dark, brooding vigilante who is utterly ruthless and isn’t above bending the rules to help in his crusade against crime. By showcasing their differing methods, the filmmakers have an opportunity to truly explore who Superman is and why he chooses to fight against crime in a way Man of Steel didn’t.

4. Play To Zack Snyder’s Strengths
We know Zack Snyder is capable of making good movies. Watchmen, 300, Dawn of the Dead- all of these were great. So what went wrong in MOS? My theory is this- Snyder is at heart a visual storyteller. Hell, I hated Man of Steel, and even I have to admit it was visually stunning. The effects and production design were top notch. And BVS looks to be just as good- the costumes for Supes, Bats and Wonder Woman are all excellent. Snyder is a very talented filmmaker- but in order for Snyder to make a good film, he needs a good script behind him, which is why I’m excited they’ve got Chris Terrio, the Oscar-winning writer of Argo, to help out the misfiring Goyer. What the studio need to do is allow Snyder to do what he does best- tell stories visually, and leave the dialogue to Terrio and Goyer.

3. Lighten the Mood
The dark, brooding style of film-making works for some heroes and not for others. It works for Batman, but really doesn’t for Superman. This means that they’re going to have to find a happy medium between dark, gritty realism and a more light-hearted ‘comic-booky’ tone. I suggest they look to Captain America: The Winter Soldier for inspiration. That movie struck a great balance between light and dark, balancing real-world grit with more light-hearted superhero fare. Thing is, this movie marks the official start of the DC Cinematic Universe. They’re going to be introducing characters like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern etc, who just don’t fit into the brooding, realistic vibe DC seem to be struggling to uphold. So a change of tone is necessary if WB/DC are serious about their Cinematic Universe.

2. Stay True To Wonder Woman’s Origins
As well as marking the first time Batman and Superman have appeared on screen together, this film also marks the first live-action cinematic appearance of Wonder Woman. (Her first cinematic appearance was actually in The Lego Movie.) I’ll freely admit that I don’t like the choice of Gal Gadot for the Amazing Amazon, but hey- maybe the production team say something I didn’t. I guess we’ll find out when the movie actually arrives. There have been a few rumours that WB/DC intends to change her origin- who can forget the infamous ‘Wonder Woman is Kryptonian’ rumour?
It’s crucial that the film-makers stay true to Wonder Woman’s classic origins. Her origin is a crucial part of who she is. It sets her apart from the other ‘scientific’ super-heroes in DC. Trying to ground her in science just takes away everything that makes her such a powerful and unique character. She gets her powers from the Greek gods. She regularly faces magic-wielding foes and even fights gods from time to time. She is a heroine born from magic, which is what sets her apart from the other heroes of the Justice League. Let’s keep it that way.

1. Build Your World- But Do It Right
DC haven’t been shy about their ambitions for the DCCU. Many people complain about the movie being overstuffed, but come on- some of the very best CBMs (DOFP, GOTG, CA:TWS) had heaps of characters in them, and they turned out alright. The problem is, we know that having the weight of a franchise on its shoulders can bring down a superhero movie (Amazing Spider-Man 2 being the latest culprit).
What DC needs to realise is that there is a fine art to world building. Simply shoving in tons of characters and subplots for the sake of setting up future films does not a good movie make. Focus on a handful of central characters and have the rest be cameos and minor roles if needs be. The central dynamic needs to be Bats and Supes- maybe have Wonder Woman play a similar role to Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
So there you have it- my top 5 suggestions for how WB/DC should handle Batman V Superman. Disagree with my suggestions? Have any of your own? Let me know in the comments below?
Live long and prosper!



 

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staypuffed
staypuffed - 8/7/2014, 3:57 AM
Definitely disagree with your opinion on Man of Steel, but I like your points.
Nice work, dude!
DCGuy
DCGuy - 8/7/2014, 4:57 AM
Very nice Editorial you have impressed the excellence of Editorials DCGUY! good job sir!

please do more.
DCGuy
DCGuy - 8/7/2014, 4:59 AM
@Metropolisman I think the same they should use some of the DCAnimated films & shows Humor, dry, dark and some times sarcastic humor like in Superman/Batman Apocalypse & the JL shows
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/7/2014, 5:20 AM
metropolisman- "i don't want the dc films to turn into the shallow action comedies that marvel has"
every [frick]ing comment you have to bring up your distaste for the MCU. if you dont like it fair enought but there is no reason to continually bring it up.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/7/2014, 5:28 AM
also nice editorial, some very good points.
kong
kong - 8/7/2014, 5:39 AM
I think if anything this film should have darker moments than MOS, but as the film progresses and Superman grows the tone (at least when he's on screen) could brighten with him.

Great article by the way! You're one of the few people that can wrote a great article on the sequel to a movie he didn't like without bashing it with a hammer. I agree with all of your points!!!!
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/7/2014, 5:39 AM
metropolisman- im not bitching at you thank you very much. marvel fanboys are as stupid as DC fanboys i pointed that out several times yesterday with the whole supes and bats moving away from cap 3 yesterday. also this isant your 1st time doing this i have seen several comments from you on over threads in the last few days, but your not as bad as the idiots yesterday who try to use numbers to back up their claims but then use the wrong numbers.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/7/2014, 5:40 AM
metropolisman- you realise they would only be better in your opinion.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/7/2014, 6:03 AM
nubase- well said
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/7/2014, 6:33 AM
metropolisman- i understand why you might be getting fed up of some of the comments by the marvel trolls but dont take it to heart. dont fire back if you do you are stooping down to their level. it does get very tiresome seeing trolls on this site.
EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 8/7/2014, 6:50 AM
Everything must have a joke every few seconds now smh
GreenLantern519
GreenLantern519 - 8/7/2014, 6:57 AM
I don't think they need to completely change the tone, but having a few moments of levity every now and again would be okay.
GiantNerd
GiantNerd - 8/7/2014, 7:03 AM
I don't think a movie about Superman needs more than a few moments of humor. The little humor they tried in MOS failed horribly though. Superman is all about hope and inspiration. I personally did not feel either of those things in MOS.
Klone
Klone - 8/7/2014, 7:51 AM
@0megaDaGod

I thought you liked Cavill as Superman?
Klone
Klone - 8/7/2014, 7:51 AM
@staypuffed

I miss your old avatar :(
neihofft
neihofft - 8/7/2014, 9:14 AM
"Lighten the tone" lol
Not happening. Doesn't need to happen. Dont even count on it. I loved how it was.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 8/7/2014, 9:46 AM
Agreed! Especially with how utterly bad Man of Steel was haha. Though I definitely would've put your numbers 5, 4, and 3 as the top 3 most important things to do in the sequel. They're that important.

It's kind of sad that we have to rely on the sequel to properly establish Superman's character (you'd think his origin story would've cared enough to do that), but it definitely needs to happen in Batman V Superman.

#4 is an absolute must, and it's my biggest worry for this movie. Of course the movie is going to LOOK good, but I just hope the script is able to come close to that. Man of Steel inspired no confidence in that department.

And lightening the tone is what I'd personally prefer...but I seriously doubt WB/DC is ever going to go in that direction. If freaking SUPERMAN had to suffer through the most cynical, dour, depressing 2 hours we've ever seen...how much WORSE is it going to be in a movie with Batman and Lex Luthor?? A little optimism would be nice, is all. Nolan's movies (which WB/DC is obviously using as their guide for these movies) managed to be dark, yet hopeful. But if ALL of WB/DC's movies have the same tone as Man of Steel...just, ugh.
PrinceAwesome
PrinceAwesome - 8/7/2014, 9:56 AM
Messy editorials cause for an obscure comment ...

1)

"One thing I think MOS failed to do was actually show us who Superman is. We never really learn much about his character, other than he likes to save people and being an alien is tough. For a movie that was supposed to focus on re-introducing Superman to modern audiences, they never really gave us a proper insight into his character."

Really? The film mainly portrays Superman as Clark Kent going through the average struggles a human being has to go through instead as a badass alien with a badass rep to be a mere badass (a la Iron Man). Clark in school, as a teenager, as a young adult, as an average worker entering the cusp of adulthood, his father's death, the reason why he has transcended into a hero instead of remaining as an enigma yet to be reckoned with. These scenes were conveyed for one reason and that is to entail how an omnipotent alien can adhere towards the obstacles of an average human being.

2)

"We know Zack Snyder is capable of making good movies. Watchmen, 300, Dawn of the Dead- all of these were great. So what went wrong in MOS?"

Absolutely nothing. General audiences seemed to enjoy the film just as much as an average superhero movie thus drawing in a decent profit. Critical reception was mixed in due to their bewilderment between the terms 'dark' and 'mature'.

3)

"The dark, brooding style of film-making works for some heroes and not for others."

See Number 2.

4)

"It’s crucial that the film-makers stay true to Wonder Woman’s classic origins. Her origin is a crucial part of who she is. It sets her apart from the other ‘scientific’ super-heroes in DC. Trying to ground her in science just takes away everything that makes her such a powerful and unique character."

This is merely a rumor and it seems it will remain as such. Hell, there were rumors in which proclaimed that there was going to be a nude Natalie Portman scene in 'Phantom Menace', but alas, it has never occurred.


5)

"Focus on a handful of central characters and have the rest be cameos and minor roles if needs be. The central dynamic needs to be Bats and Supes- maybe have Wonder Woman play a similar role to Black Widow in Iron Man 2."

A cinematic universe shouldn't revolve around the characterizations of three mere superheroes. There's a reason why this cinematic universe is called the 'DC Cinematic Universe' and that is because such universe is to establish ALL characters instead of a few. Some in the deepest of ways, some in the slightest.
Darktower
Darktower - 8/7/2014, 10:33 AM
the only think i didnt like about MOS was shot handheld..leading to Shaky camera.... wen i watch any of his movie.. i expect it to hav beautifully shot scenes like 300 n The Watchmen.
Darktower
Darktower - 8/7/2014, 10:40 AM
@PrinceAwesome
i highly Agree !!
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 8/7/2014, 11:18 AM
@PrinceAwesome, I get what you're saying, and I'm sure you mean the best...but come on. There's plenty of reasons to like Man of Steel (though I disagree with them), but that doesn't mean we have to pretend Man of Steel was perfectly flawless, and that critics are just imbeciles who ALL got hung up on...the tone of the movie, of all things (as if they didn't have ANY other problems with the movie? The 'dark' and 'mature' tone didn't seem to bother many of the EXACT SAME critics when it came to Nolan's Bat trilogy, did it?).

RebelVulcan had totally legitimate, rational points (especially the ones you quoted), and there's ways of responding to them (even if you disagree with them) without stooping to defending the movie at every turn possible. Not trying to start anything, just my thoughts!
TheDonOfGotham
TheDonOfGotham - 8/7/2014, 12:21 PM
I actually like the idea that Clark has a hard time being Superman. I know MOS wasn't a perfect film but I don't care, I love MOS.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 8/7/2014, 12:58 PM
I loved Man of Steel. It's not the greatest movie but I think it's comparable to (if not better than some of) Marvel's phase one. Regardless, I agree with all of your points except #3 to a certain extent. I like the dark/gritty tone they're going for but I think Superman specifically could lighten up.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 8/7/2014, 6:21 PM
I liked Man of Steel. I didn't mind the tone or the mood. To me it established Superman's character perfectly and this is coming from a person that loves Marvel and prefer's Batman over Superman.

The only flaws i have with the film is the cinematography(shakey cam) and David S. Goyer and the way the flashbacks where shown, it would have been better if the flashbacks where quick, short, concise and had fluidity.

It's good that Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice has a new screen writer which can hopefully achieve your points that you've listed but to me Man of Steel will always be in my top 10 favorite comic book movies.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 8/7/2014, 6:24 PM
Cavill had wooden acting? Eh? To me Cavill was perfect for Superman and Clark Kent. His Superman reminded me of the comics and Superman TAS.
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