BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Originally Focused On T'Challa Dealing With AVENGERS: ENDGAME Fallout

BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Originally Focused On T'Challa Dealing With AVENGERS: ENDGAME Fallout

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever director Ryan Coogler has revealed some of his original plans for the movie prior to Chadwick Boseman's death, confirming it was set to deal with Avengers: Endgame fallout...

By JoshWilding - Nov 02, 2022 10:11 AM EST
Source: Inverse

Actor Chadwick Boseman passed away after a lengthy, secret battle with cancer, bringing his time as T'Challa in the MCU to a premature, devastating end. The plan had obviously been for him to star in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, but Marvel Studios went back to the drawing board in the wake of his death and overhauled the story. 

Talking to Inverse, filmmaker Ryan Coogler shed some light on original plans for the sequel, confirming we would have picked up with the King of Wakanda struggling in the wake of being dusted for five years. 

"The character was going to be grieving the loss of time, you know, coming back after being gone for five years," he explains. "As a man with so much responsibility to so many, coming back after a forced five years absence, that’s what the film was tackling. He was grieving time he couldn’t get back. Grief was a big part of it."

We're assuming that would have seen the hero dealing with what became of his home without a Black Panther, not to mention some possible personal losses. We're guessing this might also explain rumours the sequel was going to introduce T'Challa's son, likely meaning the hero would have come back to discover a child who had started growing up without him.

One thing that did stay the same was Namor the Submariner "always [being] the antagonist," and while changes were made to other characters, "[he] was always there."

"Who the protagonist was, the flaws of the protagonist, what the protagonist was dealing with in their journey," Coogler added, "all of that stuff had to be different due to us losing [Chadwick] and the decisions that we made about moving forward."

Chances are original plans for the Black Panther franchise will never be made fully clear to us. Shuri becoming the new Panther much further down the line was always likely, but it's obviously happened much sooner than anyone anticipated. 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever arrives in theaters on November 11.

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DoubleD
DoubleD - 11/2/2022, 10:22 AM
OFF TOPIC

Epic second trailer for Avatar: The Way of Water

Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 11/2/2022, 10:45 AM
@DoubleD - Definitely even more pumped for it.
SKetCH
SKetCH - 11/2/2022, 10:23 AM
I'm just ready to get this over with...

And by "this" I mean: crying like a baby surrounded by strangers. The trailer hits me every damn time.
Spoken
Spoken - 11/2/2022, 10:46 AM
@SKetCH - I will admit it was very sad watching the trailer when I saw Smile. My wife was crying too, but that is because she resonates Boseman's death with her mom who also passed away from cancer =[ she doesn't wanna watch it now lol.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/2/2022, 10:27 AM
Would’ve been interesting. I think that time passed during Endgame needed a weighty, extensive acknowledgment a little while ago. A little too late now maybe but I read the BP2 we’re getting acknowledges it in a small way.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 11/2/2022, 10:30 AM
It’s a real shame we will never get to see that film.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 11/2/2022, 10:37 AM
So, either way the death of T'Challa and Wakanda dealing with his absence was a big part of the story.
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 11/2/2022, 10:47 AM
As long as Wakanda Forever is a great film I'm ok with the decision despite disagreeing with it.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/2/2022, 11:01 AM
Didn’t we get an article about this like last week?
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 11/2/2022, 12:37 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA -Yes and no, as the previous one didnt referenced the snap aspect of the story
AC1
AC1 - 11/2/2022, 11:53 AM
That son thing is interesting. Would explain why Nakia wasn't seen or involved in Infinity War if she was pregnant/just given birth, and then again in Endgame because she was with their young child.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 11/2/2022, 2:41 PM
@AC1 - Would make sense because of the snap, but characters suddenly having grown children between episodes made House of the Dragon super offputting for me at first
AC1
AC1 - 11/2/2022, 5:17 PM
@UncleHarm1 - true but the hypothetical child would probably only be aged 4-6 depending on the exact timeline (i.e. when Nakia would've had the baby in relation to IW, and how much time has passed between Endgame and BPWF) so really it wouldn't be much different to how Morgan Stark was introduced in Endgame
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 11/2/2022, 11:57 AM
I haven't seen BP2, so I have no idea how it's handled, but I think it could have been cool to see Namor arrive just after T'Challa's passing, almost as if he was waiting for it or knew it was coming. And without T'Challa, various characters don the BP mantle throughout the film, exhibiting various strengths and weaknesses. So we'd get Shuri, M'Baku, and maybe a third (Okoye or W'Kabi), with no one person wanting to take the role permanently. Each suit would be slightly different, and the fighting styles all different. Let Shuri develop a necklace or artifact that houses the nanites, and the three or four fighters pass the mantle back and forth as necessary (almost like a reverse Iron Man 3 suit jumping).

Would be an interesting way to put the focus on Wakanda more than one Black Panther, and you'd have less controversy over having a designated replacement for Chadwick.

Of course, you'd eventually have to find a permanent Panther, but it would give other characters more opportunities to prove their worth and have the mantle be symbolic of Wakanda as a nation.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 11/2/2022, 12:07 PM
Dang dude. So… I suppose they still could have a Junior T’Challa. Ah forget all of it and recast Tyler Perry as M’Baku!
tvor03
tvor03 - 11/2/2022, 12:15 PM
I wonder what the cause of death will be. It would be interesting if they connect to Thor Love and Thunder, and maybe TChalla had the same kind of cancer Jane Foster had. Maybe a small but significant portion of those who got dusted developed an unknown form of cancer.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 11/2/2022, 12:54 PM
@tvor03 - did they say Jane was dusted
newhire13
newhire13 - 11/2/2022, 2:27 PM
@tvor03 - That’s what I’m wondering. Combat makes sense but otherwise I’m not sure what could take down the freaking Black Panther. I suppose either way it could tie in to Shuri’s grief, with her not being able to deal with the fact that she’s smart and clever enough to do everything except save her brother.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 11/2/2022, 1:15 PM
Yeah, I posted the link to this article in the comments yesterday.

They should have gone this route. The power void created by the five year absence of T'Challa should have had M'Baku take the throne and become the Black Panther.

Then T'Challa returns and there should be a struggle for the throne.

Just another reason they needed to recast T'Challa and had him make a cameo in another movie prior to BP2.
newhire13
newhire13 - 11/2/2022, 2:37 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - M’Baku wouldn’t hassle T’Challa over the throne or right to be Black Panther. Probably wouldn’t even be a debate if T’Challa’s mother took the throne while he was gone. And highly doubtful they even had a Black Panther since Killmonger destroyed the heart shape herbs.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 11/2/2022, 2:59 PM
@newhire13 - That’s a valid point about the herbs being destroyed.
I think there would be a power struggle.
What we also don’t know is if T’Challa’s mother was dusted as well. She may have been.

That’s why I hate that Feige has ignored the snap and said they are done addressing it.
It was such a massive and impactful event that it would have repercussions through all of the MCU both locally and universally.
Wakanda being thrown into turmoil, and possibly being vulnerable as a result of the power vacuum. That also would have been the perfect strategic opening for the Atlanteans and Namor to attack.

Missed opportunities
EnergyVamp
EnergyVamp - 11/2/2022, 2:05 PM
Reminds me that I wish the consequences of the MCU hit a bit harder. Some movies moved on pretty quick from the Snap and losing 5 years of your life, I wanted to see a bigger impact similar to Falcon and Winter Soldier. Need the Eternals ending to play a bigger role in everyday lives same with the invention of nanotech on broader MCU
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 11/2/2022, 3:00 PM
@BoosterBronze - 100% agree. They wasted so many opportunities.
Matrixyzx
Matrixyzx - 11/3/2022, 1:20 AM
I'm an Sober Avenger been like this for few years another bother to ever touch my costume. Black Pantha it's a tribe. Captain Planet ahem I mean America he's a real Hero.
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