Mark Millar On Making CIVIL WAR Work On The Big Screen And Unmasking SPIDER-MAN

Mark Millar On Making CIVIL WAR Work On The Big Screen And Unmasking SPIDER-MAN

Mark Millar wrote the comic book series that Captain America: Civil War is based on, and he talks in detail here about just how important secret identities are to the series, who should be portrayed as the villain, and whether the movie actually needs Spider-Man to unmask...

By JoshWilding - Sep 25, 2015 07:09 PM EST
Source: IGN
Civil War is such a huge story that making it work on the big screen is going to be no easy feat for Marvel Studios, but it's been clear for while now that it won't be a completely faithful adaptation anyway. Even so, there are a long list of moments from Mark Millar and Steve McNiven's series fans are hoping will make it into Captain America: Civil War, and there's been a lot of talk from some fans about the lack of secret identities in the Marvel Cinematic Universe being a problem for the movie. As it turns out, Millar isn't worried about that, and also talks here about why both Cap and Iron Man need to be portrayed as good guys and why a lack of Spider-Man revealing his secret identity isn't going to matter all that much. Here are the writer's comments courtesy of IGN

On Why Secret Identities Really Aren't That Important To The Story:

 
The important thing really is the Superhero Registration Act essentially. It has nothing to do with secret identities. Weirdly, people get really hung up on the whole secret identity thing. When I was writing that book, I was thinking about having the superheroes having to expose their identities and get brought under government legislation, and then I said to Marvel, "Who's got a secret identity?" and they said, “No one.” There's basically Spider-Man. Everyone, even Daredevil, had given up their secret identity at this point. I was like, alright, so I made it about something else.
 

On Portraying Both Captain America And Iron Man As Heroes:
 
What it's about is Iron Man feels anybody who is walking around with a nuclear reactor on their back or whatever should be under government control of some kind. They should be maybe working for the government the same way cops work for local government. And it's sensible when you think about it. It totally makes sense. You have a license, you make sure this guy is okay, you make sure he doesn't have a criminal record and all this kind of stuff. And it's sensible but Captain America's against it because he comes from a simpler time and he feels superheroes should be autonomous and not be involved in politics. It's an ideological argument between the two, and that's all that matters. That's what Civil War is -- it's Iron Man vs. Captain America, and they're both right, they're both good guys. Because the moment you demonize one of them, then the story loses its power. You've got to like both of these guys, they're both correct, and that's why guys we like go to either side with them.
 

Why The Movie Doesn't Need Spider-Man To Unmask:
 
People remember that because it was such a good stunt. It's a seven-issue series, which is 150 pages or something, and Spider-Man appears it it for three pages, one of which is a splash. It was such a tiny part of it. To be honest, it was just a way of boosting up our sales. We were just sitting there thinking, what can we do with Spider-Man for three pages? And that worked.

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Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 9/25/2015, 7:38 PM
Was a good read.

TonyChu
TonyChu - 9/25/2015, 7:40 PM
One of the most pivotal and defining moments in not just Marvel but comics in general was just a stunt? Calling bull on that.
MuttonMan
MuttonMan - 9/25/2015, 7:42 PM
I never thought the comic was really about secret identities... It was more along the lines of what Millar was talking about, should heroes work for the gov't? And even though he said that he was trying to make both Cap and IM good guys, I think it's clear that Stark was the antagonist to Caps protagonist...
TonyChu
TonyChu - 9/25/2015, 7:43 PM
There really is no way in hell they are doing the unmasking of Spider-Man in this movie considering he has had little to no exposure in this film universe. Also he is too young to pull off a stunt like that. I do like the idea of the movie not being dependent on the superheroes secret identities but rather having to answer directly to the government. Not to mention most of the Marvel heroes in the films have their identities out in the open already.
MuttonMan
MuttonMan - 9/25/2015, 7:45 PM
I mean, Civil War is the perfect title for the comic because our own civil war was fought along similar lines... Do the states have a right to secede from the union, or are they under Federal ownership? Do heroes have the right to do what they want, or are they gov't agents?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/25/2015, 7:46 PM
YES! Thank you! People put so much significance into the secret identities and Civil war has ALWAYS been more about registration and civil liberty.




It's about the ideologies of iron man and Cap being put head to head. Who really
knows what's best for the world? Cap is all about the fact that he and other heroes voluntarily put their lives on the line...it's a public service to protect the world. Heroes shouldn't have to be involved in politics and govt as it opens doors for corruption of power. Iron Man thinks accountability is a chief principal...who watches the watchmen?
rocketeuropa
rocketeuropa - 9/25/2015, 7:57 PM
Mark Millar--? Didnt Fox hire him to be their superhero go-getter? What happened with that??
Anyway- he needs focus now but who cares?
Stick a fork in him. He's done.
Spiderfan2226
Spiderfan2226 - 9/25/2015, 8:11 PM
@Wakandasoul: I agree Spidey isn't necessary, secret identities aren't necessary, Spidey unmasking definitely isn't necessary. But having Spidey being Stark's protege and kind of poster boy for registration and seeing how that blows up in Peter's face was a great illustration of how far from his ideals Stark had gone with his crusade and what that was doing to the characters. And by using him as the kind of naive kid caught in the middle of Cap and Stark helped bolster the Ironman/Cap feud. Spidey was, as he usually is, the every man, the audience. While Ironman's ideas sounded reasonable at first, he started cloning gods and enlisting villains to fight heroes for him. We went through that journey with Peter from getting Stark's point, to becoming apprehensive, to joining Cap wholeheartedly.

The crux of the story is just Cap and Ironman having ideological differences and the whole mcu (almost) having to pick sides. You can make a movie with any story with that element and call it Civil War. You don't need Spidey for that but his arc was a great addition in the comics. I expect the movie version to be only very loosely tied to the comic anyway, like a vague inspiration. But if Spidey is going to be in it I would assume his role will be similar because it makes too much sense not to do that. That's jut the most logical thing for his character to do. But all the twists and turns will obviously not be the same and he may have a slightly smaller role.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 9/25/2015, 8:14 PM
I think it's ridiculous to say Stark was the "villian". It's all about point of view, was Stark wrong in wanting heroes to be trained properly, the act also could of allowed SHIELD to protect the heroes and their families from getting harmed off duty.

I am glad he is admitting the unveiling of spidey was a stunt. I thought it was so stupid and out of character, Peter is wiser than that. All that work to keep his identity a secret and than bam unveiling on the 6 o'clock news.

What I loved about the arc is that it showed the characters' stance on a an issue. I have said this many times, the real Civil War should of been about mutant registration. Where do the heroes stand on the mutant phenomenon, where do the heroes stand on discrimination?
InvisibleSanji
InvisibleSanji - 9/25/2015, 8:27 PM
I don't think the cinematic Civil War will be anything close to the comic version. Tony used villains on his team and Team Genius created a faux-Thor that killed Goliath. Captain America had the Punisher on his team. The Punisher shoots people...in the head. The whole thing ended when Cap realized his whole struggle for freedom had decimated the city. Imagine that on the big screen. Critics would go ape-doo-doo.
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 9/25/2015, 8:29 PM
@typicalfanboy

Yeah Steve McNiven did that at a convention. I just wanted to talk and he just start plastering his name all over them.
InvisibleSanji
InvisibleSanji - 9/25/2015, 8:30 PM
About Stark as the bad guy...weren't they both the good guy but both ended up being the bad guy? Bullseye, Venom, and Taskmaster were on Stark's team at the end. They created a Thor that would've killed Team Cap if not for Invisible Woman. If this happened in the cinematic universe, Tony's sins in Age of Ultron would look like minor crimes.
wookiefit
wookiefit - 9/25/2015, 8:34 PM
I can't see Tony wanting to work for the government. He would not want anyone to tell him what to do...unless he's in charge.
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 9/25/2015, 8:58 PM
After Iron Man 2, it'll be interesting to see how they show that Tony's mindset has changed.
urnotaslave23
urnotaslave23 - 9/25/2015, 9:01 PM
@comicsbornandbred Which book is that Cap/Spidey panel from?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/25/2015, 9:08 PM
@urnotaslave23 it's amazing spiderman #537
MoreGambit
MoreGambit - 9/26/2015, 12:08 AM
Sometimes it's like Millar doesn't remember his own work. Spider-Man was in Civil War significantly more than 3 pages. It still doesn't mean he needs to unmask in Captain America: Civil War, especially if it's his first MCU appearance. It'd be dumb to have the ONLY guy in the MCU with a secret identity immediately give it away.
MoreGambit
MoreGambit - 9/26/2015, 12:10 AM
Wasn't Tony Stark the Secretary of Defense during Civil War? So he was already working for the government in exchange for having a decent amount of power in it. Maybe the movies should just make him Secretary of Defense, too.
kakinurmawth
kakinurmawth - 9/26/2015, 12:37 AM
@WakandasSoul - "Been telling people for months Spider-Man isn't essential at all to Civil War. Neither is the secret identities. He even says here that they only included him to boost sales, and it's extra hilarious because people have literally wrote me essays explaining why Spider-Man was the most important piece to Civil War. LOL"

double LOL


everything Mark says about Cap and Iron Man is EXACTLY why Cap dying is such a huge part. Cap dies over an ideological disagreement... ironic, tragic and powerful.


Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 9/26/2015, 2:31 AM
Millar is of course right about all that.

That said, the characterization of the main protagonists is all over the place (as everyone has repeated a dozen times), the story isn't all that great, and indeed it was all a huge sale-driven gimmick anyway.

If the MCU only takes the name "Civil War" and the idea of Iron Man and Captain America coming to blows, then they've already taken the best parts of the story. All the rest is much more shaky. Particularly the: "both sides are right" aspect. I'm not opposed to gray morality, but the truth is: Both sides were wrong. There was undoubtedly a reasonable compromise to be made here. And Tony's side went absolutely nuclear when it wasn't warranted. Moreover the whole thing was a thinly veiled political commentary about post-9/11 paranoia and in that case, both sides weren't right either. Most readers didn't agree with Tony's side and most writers didn't agree with Tony's side. The "whose side are you on" idea failed so spectacularly that it's a wonder that Civil War has as good a reputation as it does.
Meteor
Meteor - 9/26/2015, 3:32 AM
He broutht up a good point that is my main fear about the movie: because it's a Cap movie, Tony could be seen as the bad guy. But I want the movie to let me root for Tony without feelng "guilty".
Brainiac13
Brainiac13 - 9/26/2015, 4:36 AM
I like MM books.....I know his Ultimate books are weird bit in a good way..just like DC Earth 2 books....

Love reading his stuff...
Brainiac13
Brainiac13 - 9/26/2015, 4:38 AM
That's what Civil War is -- it's Iron Man vs. Captain America, and they're both right, they're both good guys. Because the moment you demonize one of them, then the story loses its power. You've got to like both of these guys, they're both correct, and that's why guys we like go to either side with them.
Danbojohnj
Danbojohnj - 9/26/2015, 5:41 AM
''Just a way of boosting sales''
And there lies my problem with mainstream comics in a nutshell.
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