Are CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD's Reshoots Something To Do With Sabra Controversy?

Are CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD's Reshoots Something To Do With Sabra Controversy?

We recently learned that Captain America: Brave New World will undergo extensive reshoots after cutting three key sequences, and there's speculation that this might have something to do with Sabra...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 11, 2023 11:11 AM EST

Marvel Studios recently reshuffled its release schedule, pushing all but one of its 2024 movies (Deadpool 3) into 2025, including Captain America: Brave New World (FKA Captain America: New World Order).

The delay was primarily due to the Hollywood strikes, but a follow-up report claimed that the latest Captain America adventure did not go over particularly well in test screenings. Apparently, three key sequences have been cut, and reshoots are planned from January until May/June of next year.

Though reshoots are the norm (especially for major studio tentpoles), this extensive additional photography has led to speculation that Marvel might be making some significant changes to the story, or more specifically, a certain character's role.

The announcement that actress Shira Haas had been cast as Israeli superhero Sabra in the movie during D23 last year raised a few eyebrows, and the escalating conflict in Gaza has reignited some of the backlash associated with the character.

Sabra has always been viewed as somewhat controversial, and even her name has stirred up a lot of ill feeling, as it calls to mind the Sabra and Shatila massacre of 1982 which left hundreds of Muslim men, women and children dead. Marvel Comics did introduce Sabra before these events, however, and the name is a slang term for a native-born Israeli Jew. Even so, it understandably serves as a grim reminder of the killings for many.

So, is the studio altering Sabra's origin or how she factors into the plot? Not according to insider CWGST.

There is also this.

The fourth Captain America movie started shooting on March 21 at Trilith Studios, Atlanta, before moving to Washington, DC. The strikes previously impacted several other Marvel Studios productions, but we thought Brave New World had managed to avoid any significant delays.

We've seen quite a few set photos do the rounds online, some of which featured members of the villainous group known as the Serpent Society. We also got a look at Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) suited-up in his new Cap costume, and Joaquin Torres (Danny Ramirez) sporting a fairly comic-accurate outfit as the MCU's new Falcon.

Specific plot details are still under wraps, but we will hopefully begin to learn a little more about Sam Wilson's first big-screen outing as the Sentinel of Liberty soon.

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Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 11:24 AM
When your pandering just leads to you now being offensive...

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/11/2023, 11:46 AM
@Origame - still one of my favorite movies of all time. So glad it was made in 2008, because it really wouldn't have been made today
Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 12:04 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I find it hilarious the guy in black face was nominated for an Oscar. You know that ain't happening now 🤣
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/11/2023, 11:26 AM
Right. And the covid subplot wasn't cut from TFAWS show.










Wait.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/11/2023, 11:30 AM
Cutting Sabra is a good ideas There is no way to please everyone with a character like this. Cutting her may cause a bit of controversy, but it’ll be far less than keeping her in. And she really isn’t a character that many people care about.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/11/2023, 11:32 AM
@mountainman - can we cut the entire movie while we are at it?
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 11/11/2023, 11:35 AM
Another example of a Disney company putting themselves in an impossible situation for no reason at all. And for what? So they could include some obscure comics character that no one has heard of? The predicament is so dumb and so self-inflicted. Now if they remove her, some people will be pissed and act like she was their all time favorite character.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/11/2023, 11:45 AM
@HAILHYDRA - yeah, with such minor characters I don't see why they're just not making up new ones altogether. Although I guess a reference is cool or something
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/11/2023, 12:07 PM
@McMurdo - That is not a fair representation of the position of most people who call for a free Palestine. I work at a large university that has a very large Middle Eastern population. As you can imagine, there have been many demonstrations about the ongoing war. Although I'm sure there are some people that feel the way you described, in the numerous conversations and protests i've observed over the last month, I have literally never, and I repeat not once, seen anybody express support for Hamas. I've seen people criticize the Israeli government, I've seen people call for a free palestine, and I've seen people speak out an outrage against the thousands of innocent Palestinians killed in the attacks. Simultaneously, there has been pretty universal condemnation of the October 7th attacks, and support and sympathy for the innocent israeli citizens killed in that attack.

The Palestinians on campus that I have actually had conversations with, to a person, hate Hamas, and our furious that netanyahu propped them out for so long instead of letting a less extreme government succeed.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/11/2023, 12:16 PM
@HAILHYDRA - "Now if they remove her, some people will be pissed and act like she was their all time favorite character."


McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/11/2023, 12:56 PM
@Izaizaiza - I deleted it to not incite a war.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/11/2023, 12:59 PM
@McMurdo - Haha. We live in volatile times.
TheShellyMan
TheShellyMan - 11/11/2023, 7:03 PM
@HAILHYDRA - I've been saying this, and seems like Disney wants the controversy.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 11/11/2023, 11:38 AM
Honestly, if they remove her in the reshoots, it's for the best. But I've heard she may not even use the name Sabra and that she works for the CIA (an organization that has it's own problematic issues, but still).
cubichy
cubichy - 11/11/2023, 11:39 AM
Without Steve Roger's there is no captain america. I saw a survey of 13,000 people and only 7% said they were exited about the film. It will tank, bring Steve Roger's back, any actor, but cap is Steve Roger's.
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 11/11/2023, 11:41 AM
It doesn't matter. She'll be lame and gay.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 11/11/2023, 11:43 AM
Sabra has always been viewed as somewhat controversial

yes but only with racists
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 11/11/2023, 1:52 PM
@CAPTAINPINKEYE -
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/11/2023, 11:44 AM
Ah yes, one leaker denying what another leaker is saying on X. I know who to believe.

Anyway, I'm guessing they're taking more time on the movie than I expected (regardless of controversies or not). Kinda expected this to shift to November next year.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 11/11/2023, 11:44 AM
Captain Falcon is another MCU movie no one will care about and will bomb a the box office.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/11/2023, 11:50 AM
She was a random character put in the movie anyway
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/11/2023, 12:14 PM
@ChocolateMousse -
Even without the character being Israeli, the actress is - Shira Haas. It's still an Israeli actress playing a superhero. It's going to be controversial.
videovac
videovac - 11/11/2023, 12:23 PM
"Even without the character being Israeli, the actress is - Shira Haas. It's still an Israeli actress playing a superhero. It's going to be controversial." - @Scarilian

@Scarilian, take a bow. You called this. You've been saying this. You said there would be re-shoots because of this. And this is bearing out just as you said it would.
BlackSpider
BlackSpider - 11/11/2023, 9:20 PM
@videovac - What?
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/11/2023, 11:57 AM
Honestly, I see only two ways Marvel could handle this: either cut the character out completely, which is the easier approach, or address the historical reality and complexity of the situation. Something that, frankly, I'm not sure the MCU is up to.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 11/11/2023, 12:03 PM
@Izaizaiza - I don't expect Disney, of all companies, to address the occupation of Palestine by Israel. Hell would freeze over first.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/11/2023, 12:08 PM
@comicfan100 - agreed
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/11/2023, 12:20 PM
@Izaizaiza - definitely not up to that. Then you've opened a door for truth.
pucrepeap
pucrepeap - 11/11/2023, 12:05 PM
I miss Steve. Winter soldier was a near perfect cbm, and as much as I liked civil war, it was more and avengers movie and I wish we could have gotten a true Captain America trilogy. He deserves another
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/11/2023, 12:08 PM
@pucrepeap - in my opinion, the winter soldier is not only the best MCU film ever made, but in the running for best comic movie. It was fantastic, and in a weird way served as the perfect counterpoint to the much more romantic "The First Avenger" to give it clear image of the complexity of the character
videovac
videovac - 11/11/2023, 12:28 PM
"Winter soldier was a near perfect cbm" "I wish we could have gotten a true Captain America trilogy. He deserves another" - @Izaizaiza

"the winter soldier is not only the best MCU film ever made, but in the running for best comic movie. It was fantastic" - @pucrepeap

@pucrepeap, @Izaizaiza: guys, be careful, @DrReedRichards will shame you for liking that movie.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/11/2023, 12:30 PM
@videovac - Haha! BTW, you flipped out quotes 🙂
videovac
videovac - 11/11/2023, 12:37 PM
"Haha! BTW, you flipped out quotes" - @Izaizaiza

I did quote you guys correctly, right? I think I did.

When you read comments on here, you never know which comment somebody was referring to. If I make seven posts in a specific thread chain, and you respond to my third post, no one will know that you responded to my third post in that specific thread chain. That is why I always quote people, and the specific thing of theirs that I was referring to.

It can get confusing, when you don't know what someone is referring to.
Blergh
Blergh - 11/11/2023, 12:11 PM
I don't think cutting her is the right idea, I've got my own views on the situation over there but having an Israeli superhero doesn't mean you have to take her countries side or the others.
She doesn't have to represent Israel, just the israeli people.
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