What's in a name?

What's in a name?

The 'Captain America' name change overseas really isn't the controversy people think it is.

Editorial Opinion
By TheQuestion - Jul 06, 2011 08:07 AM EST

The unfortunate thing about the current geo-political climate is that it has left us all a little sensitive. Case in point is the controversy over the name change of 'Captain America: The First Avenger' for a few foreign markets, most notably Russia and South Korea. The film will simply be titled 'The First Avenger' in those countries, as well as the Ukraine. Many American fans took this as a slight to our star-spangled hero, and possibly our country. However, upon closer inspection, it's really not the big deal they think it is.

1.) Title changes Happen all the time.



First of all, this happens all the time for Hollywood movies overseas. Sometimes the title of a movie doesn't translate well in foreign markets, so the title gets changed to fit the local flavor. The 2003 action flick 'The Rundown' was changed to 'Welcome to the Jungle' in Europe. In a more ridiculous example of this instance, the film adaptation of 'Get Smart' was re-titled 'The Bumbling Spy, Will He Succeed or Won't He?' in the more narrative-inclined India. By comparison, the change in title for 'Captain America' is mild, or even negligible.

2.) Only 3 countries are changing the title...and they all had the option.


Marvel Studios had foreseen that 'Captain America' might not be the most easy film to market globally. They gave permission to to all foreign countries to re-title the movie; only three did. This film will keep the same title in most of the world. Apparently, ant-American sentiment isn't as pronounced as many believe it is. More than likely, Marvel's brand strength is more important than the title of their movies. Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and Thor were huge hits overseas, and many theaters are banking that people will see 'Captain America' simply because it's a Marvel movie.

After a little education, the title change doesn't seem very significant at all. Russia, South Korea, and the Ukraine aren't forming some new axis to do battle against Captain America and us fans at here at home. The movie business is, well...a business, and these territories are marketing the film as best they see fit. We can all rest easy knowing that Cap will be on active duty throughout the world this summer.

'Captain America: The First Avenger' stars Chris Evans, Hugo Weaving, Haley Atwell, Tommy Lee Jones, and Samuel L. Jackson, and will be released by Marvel Studios and Paramount Pictures on July 22.
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CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/6/2011, 8:30 AM
@ tea

the JCVD movie? haha. thats funny.

what about that old Dolph Lundgren movie, "I Come In Peace"? i know that got a name change across the pond too, lol.

best line, is when Dolph is about to kill the alien, and the alien says, "I come in peace." and Dolph says, "and you're going in pieces!"

classic lol
Hellsing
Hellsing - 7/6/2011, 8:37 AM
seriously theres controversy over this, its only 3 countries.3 countries decided to change the name no big deal really.
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/6/2011, 8:38 AM
In retrospect, "Welcome to the Jungle" seems like a better title than "The Rundown" for two reasons:
1. It obviously takes place in the jungle.
2. That awesome song by Guns 'N Roses would have been the theme of the movie.
marvelguy
marvelguy - 7/6/2011, 9:20 AM
It's ridiculous! The only way to shorten it is to call it "Captain America." It's not wherein he's forming the Avengers. It's typical Hollywood leftists trying to assuage others' feelings while still taking in their money.

Captain America: it doesn't sound like a gun-TOTING title.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/6/2011, 9:25 AM
@ marvelguy

actually, it can be shortened to The First Avenger. which it is.

but i agree, i hated the idea of that even being the subtitle of the movie. mostly because Cap isn't the first avenger, lol. sure he was alive before everyone else, but he joins later. not a big deal, it just irritated me for some reason
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/6/2011, 9:28 AM
@ superguy

i don't think its the Americans that are offended. America isn't exactly the most liked country world wide. so to sell the movie in certain foreign countries, they changed it. it makes sense...

would you go see a movie called Captain Libya? or Captain Iran? that features a Libyan or Iranian fighting against the forces of America and winning? not likely.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/6/2011, 10:14 AM
@ tea

lol
Paulley
Paulley - 7/6/2011, 10:15 AM
@CorndogBurglar I do agree but i guess The First Marvel doesnt sound as good
Hellsing
Hellsing - 7/6/2011, 12:22 PM
@Paulley well obviously the First "Marvel" doesn't sound as good because its called the the First AVENGER.
TorturedXGenius
TorturedXGenius - 7/6/2011, 1:14 PM
it's not Controversy/Controversial it's GOOD BUSINESS.
siddhant1138
siddhant1138 - 7/6/2011, 7:50 PM
Get Smart was always Get Smart when it released here in India :/
Jefferys
Jefferys - 7/7/2011, 5:24 AM
@yossarian - More like:

Fat Folks Crying: The First and only of it's kind cause no really takes interest in fat guys running around with there man boobs swinging from side to side, yet somehow we're still making a lot of dough, to pay our famous personal trainers who some how still put up with Fat Folks Crying and screaming and yelling at each other, good reality tv is such hard fanbase to attract but we did it fatties we have a wide and large fanbase, almost as large as you guys put together.
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 7/7/2011, 8:25 AM
Well I'm English, and for me dropping the "Captain America" bit form the title is just silly, as its not simply a random film title - its his name!!! What next "The Amazing Wall-crawling man" so as not to offend arachnophobics? But for me the strangest one has always, and probably will always be "Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone" being changed to "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" in America...Why??? I've never been able to work that one out... its just pointless!!!
marvelguy
marvelguy - 7/7/2011, 9:27 AM
Caedus, agreed!

And he was the first INVADER! It's not a transitive error. It's his name, the title, he represents the USA. Again, the two-faced left in Hollywood trying to appease you with one hand and reach into your wallet with the other.
soundwave129
soundwave129 - 7/7/2011, 4:08 PM
@ Caedus137

I'm American, and even I thought that changing the title to Philosopher's Stone was stupid. Oh yeah, and Scholastic has the absolute dumbest reason for a title change ever:
"Scholastic Corporation bought the U.S. rights at the Bologna Book Fair in April 1997 for US$105,000, an unusually high sum for a children's book. They thought that a child would not want to read a book with the word "philosopher" in the title and, after some discussion, the American edition was published in October 1998 under the title Rowling suggested, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Rowling claimed that she regretted this change and would have fought it if she had been in a stronger position at the time."

Because all kids hate books that have the word philosopher in the title, right?
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 7/8/2011, 2:36 AM
Soundwave - Haha! Yeah mate... Apparently the word "Philosopher" is like Kryptonite to kids...
kong
kong - 7/8/2011, 6:49 AM
why would people get mad. Half the time in Cap comics he's fighting the countries that changed the name of the movie.
kong
kong - 7/8/2011, 6:51 AM
In my world "Justin Bieber Never Say Never"'s title was changed to "Shit"
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