DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Director Talks Chris Evans' Foul-Mouthed Human Torch And Original Kidpool Casting

DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Director Talks Chris Evans' Foul-Mouthed Human Torch And Original Kidpool Casting

Deadpool & Wolverine director Shawn Levy has explained why Chris Evans' foul-mouthed Human Torch was always the plan for the movie's post-credits scene and reveals who was originally set to play Kidpool.

By JoshWilding - Aug 05, 2024 04:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool & Wolverine
Source: Entertainment Weekly

Chris Evans spent the better part of a decade playing the MCU's Captain America before bidding farewell to the role in 2019's Avengers: Endgame. We thought that might be it for the actor, but he returned in Deadpool & Wolverine...as the Human Torch!

That was Evans' first superhero role way back in 2005's Fantastic Four and, for director Shawn Levy, his foul-mouthed tirade in the threequel's post-credits scene was something he knew he wanted from the start. 

Talking to Entertainment Weekly about "that super dirty monologue," Levy said Ryan Reynolds "wrote [it] in literally about nine minutes" and explained, "Unlike a lot of movies, we knew what would be our final end-credits button for over a year. It was always going to be that, and it was non-negotiable."

He added. "We expected that Chris might need a bunch of takes because that was a page of super dirty, mile-a-minute language. Chris came in, was off book, banged it out in two takes, had us pissing with laughter, and that's what you see in the movie. I think Chris had a blast, and I know our movie benefits from Chris playing Johnny very differently from Cap. Gone is the righteous nobility and cleanliness of Captain America."

"This is a Boston-inflected, Chris Evans-inspired Johnny Storm. I feel like it's more Chris than the original Chris Evans. Chris is a Boston boy," the filmmaker continued. "I'd have to go back and watch the original Fantastic Four, but I don't think he played Johnny as the Boston boy that he did in Deadpool & Wolverine — and to me it is perfection."

Levy also confirmed that "there was a Vinnie Jones conversation that didn't really go very far" regarding The Juggernaut but, beyond that, he and Reynolds secured all the cameos they wanted. However, there was one they had to close the door on. 

"If Walker Scobell had stopped evolving right before puberty, he absolutely would've been Kidpool," the director revealed. "It was his dream. Ryan and I reached out to him once we realized he was now going to be too old, both too tall and with his voice too low. Puberty is what it is, and all the Hollywood dreams in the world can't stop it."

"So we did call Walker and explain why he couldn't be Kidpool, and he was completely understanding. My long reunion hug with Walker at the premiere in New York was one of my favorite parts of that whole night."

In place of the Percy Jackson and the Olympians star as Kidpool was Reynolds and Blake Lively's 7-year-old daughter, Inez. Levy and Reynolds had previously worked with Scobell on Netflix's The Adam Project.

Deadpool & Wolverine is now playing in theaters.

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 8/5/2024, 4:21 PM
Sue Storm and The Thing are next for disrespectful and violent MCU deaths.
Fogs
Fogs - 8/5/2024, 4:23 PM
@SonOfAGif - I didn't care about Johnny here cause it's Deadpool and we're supposed to have stuff like that, like in 2 with the X-Force. But in MOM Reed was just plain dumb and had a stupid meaningless death.
Blergh
Blergh - 8/5/2024, 4:29 PM
@Fogs - and besides, if they restored Blade and Elektras worlds, why not Johnnys?
Or even better, maybe merge all previous worlds together and create a “Marvel 2000” universe that combines all of them together (except the duplicates like the TAS universe and Warzone).
That way they can always bring in fun cameos or return to classic series for a surprise movie set in that world.

Imagine Nic Cage suddenly feeling like doing Ghost Rider 3 outside of the MCU.
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 8/5/2024, 5:50 PM
@Fogs -Yep. Some people complain characterization but it is a Deadpool movie, like you said its like what they did with X-Force it's supposed to be dumb and fun. But still i was surprised on how respectful they were with Gambit, X-23, Logan, Blade and Elektra. They gave them a lot to do and even Johnny it was similar joke to the X-Force but way better.

MOM was just lazy to me. I felt like Marvel forced the writers to change Scott Derrickson script and include the multiverse elements a week before pre-production. They could've done so much with the Illuminati and even Deadpool's multiverse team seems to be more capable than the 838 Illuminati. Just a huge waste.
Fogs
Fogs - 8/5/2024, 6:06 PM
@ImNotaBot - totally agreed.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/5/2024, 4:22 PM
Oh man , Walker would have been great considering how well he did as young Reynolds in the Adam Project but oh well…

They are right that puberty is what it is and nothing can stop it.

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Also while it was weird to see Johnny curse up a storm (pun intended) , the characterization didn’t feel imo too far off from Evans version in the original 2 FF Films…

It’s just that this Johnny has gone threw some shit now and obviously being in the Void and perhaps losing his family has hardened and matured him to a degree.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 8/5/2024, 4:24 PM
Not that I'm a prude (Heaven forfend!) but, what's with all this gratuitous hilarity over the excessive profanities??? Seems like these guys are getting non-stop chubbies over it. 🤨 Grow the fu@k up. (OH NO! Now I'm doing it!) 😳
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 8/5/2024, 4:53 PM
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AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 8/5/2024, 5:01 PM
Hey you guys should do some more stories about Deadpool and Wolverine. I don’t think you’ve done enough for today.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/5/2024, 5:17 PM
He was more Chris Evans than Johnny Storm.
Johnny is a hothead and definitely no prude, but I don’t think he’d say any of those things and specially not in that tone.

It was basically a Chris Evans cameo. Lol

Which I’m okay with since it’s a Deadpool movie , but hopefully they get Johnny right in First Steps.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 8/5/2024, 5:27 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - To be fair Johnny is a complete cun.t in his first movie, but youre right lol.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/5/2024, 5:39 PM
@TheRogue -

Oh he is lol but that monologue seemed more like something Wade would say instead of Johnny lol

Johnny is more a cocky frat guy with a good heart in my mind
TheRogue
TheRogue - 8/5/2024, 5:46 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - "Oh he is lol but that monologue seemed more like something Wade would say instead of Johnny lol"

To be fair I think thats what makes the joke work.
ImNotaBot
ImNotaBot - 8/5/2024, 5:58 PM
@TheRogue - Yeah the audience beliving that Deadpool made up all that shit talk and got Johnny killed is a great joke. For me the best post credits joke scene by Marvel.

I was watching the movie again last week and you can see Wolverine acting desperate trying to shut up Deadpool because he knew that Johnny said all that shit lol.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 8/5/2024, 6:05 PM
@ImNotaBot - Wolverines expressions are hilarious cause he has to deal with the brunt of wades fourth wall breaking
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 8/5/2024, 6:29 PM
@TheRogue -

You know that’s true xD

That’s the whole joke lmao

My bad
JonC
JonC - 8/5/2024, 7:46 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - I think Johnny had been in the zone too long without the rest of the FF and it tainted him.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 8/6/2024, 12:02 PM
@TheRogue - You know there is a comic (don't recall the name) in which Johnny sleeps with Dr Doom's fiance. And when Doom finds out he goes full on evil. He was about to give it all up toly happy and peacefully married. So this Deadpool's Johnny seems on brand
MasterMix
MasterMix - 8/5/2024, 5:46 PM
Fun fact: Chris Evans' Human Torch is the only Marvel superhero to have appeared in a PG, PG-13, and R rated movie.
folieaturd
folieaturd - 8/5/2024, 7:51 PM
Stop with the spoilers for the people who live under a rock and haven't watch this movie!
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Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 8/5/2024, 8:51 PM
I dont know why they thought he wouldn’t memorize it. He’s really good at that kind of fast talking monologuing he was doing it long before he was Captain America
MrDandy
MrDandy - 8/5/2024, 9:08 PM
Sean Levy: “You can quote me!”
Josh: “Kay”

12 articles later
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/5/2024, 9:51 PM

Imagine the epic blue flaming contest the Human Torch could have with Galactus.

McMurdo
McMurdo - 8/5/2024, 10:19 PM
@DocSpock - what did you call me?
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/5/2024, 11:19 PM
@McMurdo -

?? I was hoping to get more confused.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 8/6/2024, 4:34 AM
Surprised to not see anyone comment on Johnny finally having his hair.

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