Peyton Reed talks about why he left his planned Fantastic Four movie

Peyton Reed talks about why he left his planned Fantastic Four movie

The Ant-Man director reveals how his take of the World' Greatest Comics' Magazine would have been like Joss Whedon's ''The Avengers'', why he left the project, and his thoughts on Josh Trank's upcoming adaptation.

By MrFantastic - Jul 16, 2015 06:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Yahoo.com
Peyton Reed is known among moviegoers for his work on comedies such as ''Bring It On'', ''The Break-Up'', ''Down With Love'' and ''Yes Man''. He has also established a solid body of television work, including the ''Back To The Future'' animated series and behind-the-scenes documentary of the films. Soon, however, he will be known to larger audiences as Marvel Studios' latest movie ''Ant-Man'' arrives in theaters worldwide. 

In May 2014, Marvel selected Reed as the ideal replacement in the wake of director Edgar Wright's departure. Previously, he had been considered to helm ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' before James Gunn was chosen. However, he is also known for his brief involvement with developing the first ''Fantastic Four'' movie.

In an interview with Yahoo.com, Reed explains he was signed to direct ''Fantastic Four'' at 20th Century Fox after Chris Columbus, Raja Gosnell and Peter Segal were previously attached to the project. His take on the comic book was to be a character-driven story with an equal balance of action, drama and humor. "I was a huge Marvel fan when I was a kid and knew ''Fantastic Four'' inside out and felt they were always the clown jewel of Marvel," he says. "So I went in and got [hired for] the movie, and I developed it for the better part of a year with three different sets of writers."

Following a long development process, Reed left the director's chair after realizing the executives at Fox wanted a light-hearted movie as opposed to his take on the characters. While he remains diplomatic about the affair, Reed states conflicting visions of how the Fantastic Four played a major role in his decision to quit. "Fox had a very different movie in mind and they were also chasing a release date... so we ended up parting company," he says. "I felt like I couldn't the movie I wanted to make in that environment."

Reed goes into detail, explaining how the executives at Fox sought to gear their comic book properties to a family-friendly audience, similar to Sam Raimi's ''Spider-Man''. Although the studio had found success with ''X-Men'', they aimed to cater to a younger fanbase. "The environment at Fox in 2003 was very different to the environment at Marvel in 2015," he says. "Fox at that time had a very specific idea; they wanted to pitch it much younger than I wanted to, and I always felt like they were treating those characters like B-level characters. I never felt like they understood the real strength of that property."

Despite having left the film, Reed remains a fan of Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, The Thing and the Human Torch, and he cites 'The Avengers' as an example of what he had in mind for his vision of the characters. "I actually feel like Joss Whedon's first 'Avengers' did a lot of the same things that I would have liked to have done in 'Fantastic Four'," he says. "Those massive battles in the streets of Manhattan for example."

On the subject of Fox's upcoming reboot in August, he describes feeling excited about going to see the film as a theatergoer. "I'm psyched for Josh Trank's version of 'Fantastic Four'," he says. I know nothing about it, but I know I really liked 'Chronicle', so I'm hopeful. I think there is a great 'Fantastic Four' movie yet to be made."


FANTASTIC FOUR, a contemporary re-imagining of Marvel’s original and longest-running superhero team, centers on four young outsiders who teleport to an alternate and dangerous universe, which alters their physical form in shocking ways. Their lives irrevocably upended, the team must learn to harness their daunting new abilities and work together to save Earth from a former friend turned enemy.


''Fantastic Four'' stars Miles Teller as Mr. Fantastic, Kate Mara as The Invisible Woman, Michael B. Jordan as The Human Torch, Jamie Bell as The Thing, and Toby Kebbell as Victor Domashev/Doctor Doom. Directed by Josh Trank and written by Simon Kinberg, the film is set to be released in theaters on August 7th, 2015. What do you guys think about Peyton Reed's original vision of the characters? Would it have been a success? Sound off below!

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XelCorp
XelCorp - 7/16/2015, 7:42 PM
I just wanna know how Ant Man was!!!! Haven't seen it yet!!!!
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 7:43 PM
he's more optimistic about new F4 than i am
MrFantastic
MrFantastic - 7/16/2015, 7:47 PM
@KurtWagner

Agreed. While Reed' take on Fantastic Four would have been character-driven and not overblown on VFX, it certainly sounds like it would have been a big hit. Plus, he's a huge comic book fan, and you can tell his love for the material.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 7:50 PM
anyway ... if my theory that X-Men movies are in fact happening in Multiverse is true then one of the universes is FF verse.
There is gonna be crossover at some point.


Of course if my theory is not real then i just will end up being call dumbass.

TheManFromLolliLand
TheManFromLolliLand - 7/16/2015, 7:52 PM
@XelCorp, it's good, better than AOU
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/16/2015, 7:55 PM
@XelCorp
It was...
MrFantastic
MrFantastic - 7/16/2015, 7:57 PM
@jerryblake It's a good theory. There's a chance we'll get to see them travel to the X-verse for a crossover movie. Maybe, just maybe, they might encounter glimpses of other realities- such as the 616 Marvel universe, or the Marvel Zombieverse.....
MrFantastic
MrFantastic - 7/16/2015, 8:07 PM
@MexicanSuperman Fox wanted a kid-friendly cash cow that the whole family could enjoy. Sort of like what Warner Brothers had in mind for Batman Forever after the mixed reception to Batman Returns.

If you look at The Avengers, it had a good dose of humour, but it was not goofball comedy. Sure, Whedon knows how to have fun with the characters, but he had real-world stakes and a high level of drama. Plus, the movie was rated PG-13- supposedly, they had to tone down Agent Coulson's death scene due to the original version being too bloody.
CatholicHoar
CatholicHoar - 7/16/2015, 8:08 PM
@XelCorp Very good movie! My number 2 in my MCU films rank, only downside is Michael Peña's character, sometimes he can be really annoying.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 7/16/2015, 8:08 PM
It is good he got another chance with a comic book film. Not long now until Ant-Man will be out and I can't wait.
MrFridayNights
MrFridayNights - 7/16/2015, 8:18 PM
Ant-Man made Avengers:Age of Ultron look like a WWE Studios movie.
Ant-Man is so [frick]ing great I hope it makes more than $700 million at the box office.
MrFridayNights
MrFridayNights - 7/16/2015, 8:20 PM
Peyton Reed should direct the MCU Fantastic Four reboot trust me that will happen everyone even the General Audience is against the new Fantastic Four movie.
StarWarsgeek
StarWarsgeek - 7/16/2015, 8:23 PM
Wow, this woulda been a great movie. Better than the 2005 and 2007 films we got, IMO.

@BlackIcejoe I hope Reed will get the chance to do another Marvel movie again. Maybe, if 20th Century Fox is wise, they might try to court him back to direct a comic book movie in the future.....

MrFantastic
MrFantastic - 7/16/2015, 8:28 PM
@MexicanSuperman

Whedon has said the spear jutting out of his chest would have had a much more bloody effect.

Side note- in the UK DVD release of the film, they edited the spear out of the frame.

PantherKing
PantherKing - 7/16/2015, 8:33 PM
The wasp suit is [frick]ing amazing. I can't wait to see it in action.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 7/16/2015, 8:33 PM
@StarWarsgeek

I just don't see that happening and the reason why, is because I could see Disney having him locked for Ant-Man 2. Now if Fox could work with him again that would be cool.
MrFantastic
MrFantastic - 7/16/2015, 8:38 PM
@BlackIceJoe

There's no plans for an Ant-Man sequel as of now. But Reed has expressed interested in doing a prequel of Hank as the first Ant-Man during the 1960s. That would be cool.

@StarWarsgeek

You never know. Remember, Whedon did two Avengers films and left after AoU was released. Besides, directors work for different franchises all the time. Bryan Singer left X-Men and Fox to do Superman Returns for Warner Bros, then came back for Days of Future Past. Also, David Goyer worked on the Blade movies before doing the Dark Knight series and Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice.
ScarletWarlock
ScarletWarlock - 7/16/2015, 9:05 PM
@Prophet11
Did you get to see Wasp in action? How was she?

@KurtWagner1225
Pertaining to the cast, I don't know how the others would hold up, but Alexis denisof's character in Angel is so hilariously goofy and nerdy, but he goes through so much character development and arguably becomes the most compelling character in the entire buffyverse, he would've absolutely killed in the role!
XelCorp
XelCorp - 7/16/2015, 9:12 PM
@BlackStar25
@TheManFromLolliLand
@CroissantSpeedy
@MrFridayNights - Glad to hear that you guys liked it. When you say better than Age of Ultron, you're basically saying that the plot is easier to follow right? Or better in different ways? How?
MrFridayNights
MrFridayNights - 7/16/2015, 9:37 PM
@XelCorp Better plot,better performances and more fun.
CatholicHoar
CatholicHoar - 7/16/2015, 9:40 PM
@XelCorp It's actually funny, I have never laughed on a Marvel movie. The character development is amazing! Hope Van Dyne and Hank Pym are the highlights of the movie, the plot and story itself is very simple yet so exciting, I had my heart beating like crazy on some scenes.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 9:48 PM
X1,X2,X3 take place in Universe no 1.
XM:FC should also take place in Universe 1 since it's a X1 prequel but it's the Beast who builds Cerebro, not Charles and Eric like it was mentioned in X1.
Which lead me to think XM:FC is taking place in Universe 2 or is in fact taking place in Universe 1 but there Beast bulding Cerebro is in fact a plothole.

If XM:FC Beast creating Cerebro is a plot hole then the second universe starts when after DOFP mission was successful and the future from Universe 1 no longer exist.
Universe 2 should start at the point when Mystique makes herself look like Stryker and saves Logan from the experiments (not for long, i guess - someone would have to give him claws - either real Stryker or Apocalypse)

note: Future with old Charles and Eric in DOFP take place in Universe 1.
Jean and Scott are dead and Charles is still alive. Charles is alive in U1 because he switched bodies in X3 and somehow managed to get his original me back.


When Logan is waking up in the Mansion after DOFP mission he's in Universe 2. Jean is still alive, Cyclops too so The Wolverine movie never happened. Still the story from The Wolverine still exists in Universe 1.

Wolverine Origins is a tricky thing. As i recall Fox stated that the movie didn't happen but for me it could still happened since it's Universe 5. This universe could be shown in Universe 4 (Dedpool) once Wade is walking out of cinema and complains about the movie he just saw - Wolverine Origins. The Deadpool Universe would also explain why is Colossus looking different this time around.

Third Universe is FF universe.

All stories still exists (except Wolverine Origins. It's a fictional story written for a movie from Deadpool Universe), nothing vanished.
Problem solved.



also: Gambit takes place either in Universe 2 or 4(Deadpool).

IT'S A [frick]ING MULTIVERSE

X1,X2,X3,XM:FC
AND DOFP (but only future segment with old Charles and Eric) - UNIVERSE 1

DOFP, XM:APE - UNIVERSE 2
FF - UNIVERSE 3
DEADPOOL - UNIVERSE 4
THE WOLVERINE - UNIVERSE 1
THE WOLVERINE 2 - probably UNIVERSE 2
WOLVERINE:ORIGINS - UNIVERSE 5
GAMBIT - UNIVERSE 2 OR 4
XM:APE - UNIVERSE 2.


also


The Wolverine post credit scene makes sense if in Universe 1 X4 adventure exist and Charles got his body back.

jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 9:51 PM
AND YES - LOGAN WENT FROM FUTURE OF UNIVERSE 1 TO WAKE UP IN HIS YOUNGER BODY IN UNIVERSE 2. CHARLES HE SAW WAS DIFFERENT CHARLES.
LOGAN IS FIRST MULTIVERSE TRAVELER ;)
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 10:04 PM
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 7/16/2015, 10:06 PM
Jerry has clearly given this 1000% more thought than anyone who was actually involved in the movies.

Y'know, aside from them crapping all over Deadpool, I didn't have much problem with Origins: Wolverine. (I love how the title suggested there'd be a whole string of X-Men: Origins movies. Such hubris.) Sure, it was a dull movie, but at least it made sense (mostly) and told a (mostly) complete story, unlike X3. Even the idea of combining a bunch of mutants' abilities to create a super weapon seems like exactly something Weapon X/Plus/Dept H/whatever you call them would do; Fox just executed the concept in the stupidest way possible. It's just what they do.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 10:12 PM
@RexDartEskimoSpy

Wolverine Origins sucks because David Benioff didn't take notes from Weapon X.
Either he was to blame or the studio who didn't allow him to adapt Weapon X. I didn't mind Deadpool but i know how it feels to be robbed from a proper origin story.

RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 7/16/2015, 10:15 PM
LOGAN IS FIRST MULTIVERSE TRAVELER


Y'know what? It's a hell of a lot easier to swallow that Xavier somehow helped Kitty to "phase" Logan's consciousness into a parallel reality (one where certain events hadn't happened yet) than that time-travelling bullshit.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 10:21 PM
@RexDartEskimoSpy

haha. yeah i guess it is ;)
They gotta change the title for DOFP.
Logan: Adventures in Multiverse would fit much better.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 10:22 PM
or Logan: Parallel Traveler
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 7/16/2015, 10:26 PM
I'm also willing to defend the adamantium bullet to the head. Does it hold up to the slightest bit of scientific scrutiny? Nope. But it's a hell of a lot simpler and more visually dynamic than psychically impanting false memories, blah blah blah.

Although, any inconsistencies with continuity can just be written off to that entire movie having been implanted in his brain. Either that or:
jerryblake
jerryblake - 7/16/2015, 10:32 PM
"Although, any inconsistencies with continuity can just be written off to that entire movie having been implanted in his brain"

lol way to fix thing up and erase entire movie
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 7/16/2015, 10:38 PM
Personally, I'm most curious to see whether the general movie-going public, having been introduced to a tightly-woven shared universe in the MCU (and hopefully a DC one, as well) will expect similar continuity from the X-Men movies, or just recognize them for as the unplanned clusterfox they are. They'll still go see them, of course. Marketing will take care of that. And most non-geeks already see the X-Men as the special needs shortbus superheroes thanks to Fox. I just hope the FF gets spared that fate.
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