THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Director Matt Shakman On How Long He Knew About RDJ's Doctor Doom Casting

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Director Matt Shakman On How Long He Knew About RDJ's Doctor Doom Casting

Traditionally a Fantastic Four villain, did director Matt Shakman have a hand in the behind-the-scenes dealmaking of Robert Downey Jr.'s return as Doctor Doom?

By MarkJulian - Jul 28, 2024 12:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Collider

Undoubtedly, the biggest shock of the night from Marvel Studios' Hall H panel at SDCC was the news that Iron Man actor Robert Downey Jr. would be returning to the MCU. However, he won't be returning as Tony Stark, instead, he'll be portraying an alternate universe version of Doctor Doom.

Downey Jr.'s Doom is confirmed to appear in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars, however, online rumors have already swirled that RDJ's new character will actually show up first in The Fantastic Four: First Steps.

Several online scoopers are reporting that they received inside info about Downey's return but didn't feel confident enough to post the news before Marvel made the official announcement.

Collider caught up with The Fantastic Four director Matt Shakman, shortly after the SDCC panel and asked whether he knew about Robert Downey Jr.'s return, prior to the Hall H extravaganza.

"It’s incredible exciting. I’m a huge fan of Robert Downey Jr., of course, and there’s no one bigger. And I have heard about it for a while, and I had to keep that secret for a while. But it’s really exciting! I kept it under wraps," said Shakman.

In a separate interview with Deadline, Shakman spoke about the great chemistry the cast of First Steps possesses and how that will translate into bringing Marvel's First Family to life in the MCU.

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is currently slated to hit North American theaters on July 25, 2025. Shakman directs from a script penned by Josh Friedman. 

In the film, Pedro Pascal will portray Reed Richards aka Mr. Fantastic,  Ebon Moss-Bachrach plays Ben Grimm aka The Thing,  Vanessa Kirby is Susan Storm/Ms. Fantastic and Joseph Quinn plays Johnny Storm aka the Human Torch.

Additionally,  Julia Garner will play Shalla-Bal / Silver Surfer. Also appearing in unspecified roles are John Malkovich, Paul Walter Hauser, and Natasha Lyonne.

The film will take place in a 1960s alternate reality version of the MCU. The main cast are all confirmed to appear in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is currently slated to be the first film in Phase 6 of the MCU.

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/28/2024, 12:42 AM
They need to introduce him in First Steps and the movie needs to end with it begin the first universe to collide with universe 616 in an Incursion. If they want to tie this all together they cannot let the momentum of a continuing story arc die the way they did with Kang.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/28/2024, 12:43 AM
Well, the only good thing that will come of this is that Deadpool will make some good jokes about it in Deadpool 4.
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McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/28/2024, 1:19 AM
@Nomis929 - Deadpool will make jokes about it in Secret Wars lol
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/28/2024, 1:19 AM
@McMurdo - LOl!!! I'm down for that!
kazuma
kazuma - 7/28/2024, 1:39 AM
@McMurdo - I'm actually excited to see DP in a none DP movie. While I love the DP movies, I've always found his character to be at his best when he's in someone else's comic and I hope we get that same energy going forward.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/28/2024, 1:41 AM
@kazuma - will def be interesting to see how they incorporate him into the Avengers
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/28/2024, 4:55 AM
@Nomis929 -

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/28/2024, 12:51 AM
nice photo of the cast, that Thing really knows how to sell himself
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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/28/2024, 12:51 AM
I have mild hopes for this movie because of Shakman.

But cap 4 and thunderbolts, rip marvel
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/28/2024, 12:53 AM
@vectorsigma - TO be fair cap 4 at least looks visually kinda cool.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/28/2024, 1:03 AM
@TheRogue - we had that cool trailer with secret invasion and it was a letdown.

I just cant brush the "director of cloverfield paradox" from my head lol
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 7/28/2024, 12:58 AM
So excited for this film. The multiverse finally going bonkers 🔥🫡
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 7/28/2024, 1:04 AM
No way he's the main Doom post Secret Wars. Just no way...
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/28/2024, 1:18 AM
@TheRationalNerd - he will be dead and doom won't matter after secret wars they'll be onto the next villain
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 7/28/2024, 1:26 AM
@McMurdo - Lets be Honest here, this "Doom" fella sounds a bit too Doom and gloom for a Disney movie and the Doom character himself from those funny books with the pictures has always probably been depicted as more of a side/ supporting villain, so two movies is more than that Darth Vader rip off deserves. Now this Sidewinder fella on the other hand, now that sounds like a character with legs, plus, on a side note, have you ever seen Breaking Bad?
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 7/28/2024, 1:36 AM
@McMurdo - For sure. Doom is a 2 movie deal, maybe an endcredit in FF.
kazuma
kazuma - 7/28/2024, 1:37 AM
@TheRationalNerd - I'm betting that none of the actors will be the main anything post Secret Wars.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/28/2024, 1:17 AM
First Steps is so cringe.
sully
sully - 7/28/2024, 1:21 AM
@McMurdo - I remember when I took my fantastic four first steps when I was a toddler.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/28/2024, 2:26 PM
@sully - your first four steps
Conquistador
Conquistador - 7/28/2024, 2:18 AM
Excited to see how the Nostalgia Saga gets there.

Goes from playing the biggest hero in the MCU who sacrificed himself to the big bad... I'm mixed, but happy to see him back.

We need a scene of his Doom choking out a Tony Stark variant though to sell the switch, Lol otherwise it's going to be hard to swallow (pause).

Post Oppenheimer, you know RDJ's contract and salary is about to be bananas with a crazy back end percentage..
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/28/2024, 3:29 AM
Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts are likely to underperform/flop.

The Fantastic Four brand is so damaged that Fantastic Four: First Steps could easily follow in the way of Fant4stic. Sure we have a comic accurate Galactus, but you are shoving them into the first movie and you are already rushing to give Reed and Sue children? Plus a Silver Surfer that is not Norrin Radd?

Now the entirety of their cinematic universe is resting on the notion that Doctor Doom is going to be established in Fantastic Four and be enough hype for people to feel he's a main antagonist in Avengers 5. Disney have just demonstrated they don't give a single [frick] about the fans who stuck with them during Phase 4/5 because they seem to be scrapping the Kang storyline entirely... so why should people get invested now?
TheCoonII
TheCoonII - 7/28/2024, 4:18 AM
@Scarilian - 2022- “lolz kang got beat by ants who cares”

2024- OMG WHY ARE THEY SIDELINING KANG JUST CAUSE OF MAJORS!?
Rastarapha
Rastarapha - 7/28/2024, 5:31 AM
@TheCoonII -

It's not just Majors, it's also Quantumania
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/28/2024, 7:37 AM
@TheCoonII -
Yes, they [frick]ed up everything with the set-up, but the people who were actually invested in Phase 4/5 and projects such as Loki (which are the foundation for films such as Deadpool 3) were told that Kang was going to be important, that he had a big role.

It actively damages Phase 4 & 5 more to just say that Kang never mattered, that Ant-Man was right for not giving a crap about him at the end of Ant-Man 3... that the council of Kangs plotline will go nowhere.

Why bother to care about the stories being told anymore when they may just drop them at any time?
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 7/28/2024, 11:43 AM
They better wrap up the Kang storyline satisfactorily
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/28/2024, 2:28 PM
@HulkisHoly - I think that's Loki season 2.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 7/28/2024, 3:10 PM
@ObserverIO -

But it didn’t though. There was an entire council of kangs still wanting to take over and war with each other. Loki stopped the universe and tva from collapsing but he didn’t stop the incursions or kangs. I could be mistaken 🤷‍♂️
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/28/2024, 3:47 PM
@HulkisHoly - The fate of the multiverse is still in peril, but maybe the incursions will be more of a clear and present danger than Kangs, who seem like much smaller problem the way the TVA were talking about them in the last few scenes of Loki.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 7/28/2024, 8:30 PM
The multiverse has ruined the MCU. This might be the worst casting in CBM history
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 7/29/2024, 1:23 PM
“Several online scoopers are reporting that they received inside info about Downey's return but didn't feel confident enough to post the news before Marvel made the official announcement.“

I laughed so hard at that.

“I mean *I* knew, i just kept it to myself!!”

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