THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Producer Appears To Confirm That Sue Storm Will Be The Team's Leader

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Producer Appears To Confirm That Sue Storm Will Be The Team's Leader

The Fantastic Four: First Steps producer Grant Curtis and stars Vanessa Kirby and Pedro Pascal discuss Sue Storm's role in the movie, and it sounds a lot like the Invisible Woman will lead the team...

By JoshWilding - Jun 08, 2025 07:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
Source: Collider

Traditionally, the Fantastic Four doesn't have a leader, though Mister Fantastic has frequently led the charge on the page. The Invisible Woman has filled a similar role, particularly in recent comic book runs by writers like Dan Slott and Ryan North. 

Sue Storm desperately needs an overhaul on screen, especially as she was largely relegated to being eye candy in the Fantastic Four movies from the mid-2000s. While Kate Mara's take was an improvement, her work was overshadowed by a questionable wig from reshoots.

Talking to Collider, The Fantastic Four: First Steps producer Grant Curtis promised that the MCU will deliver a multifaceted Sue Storm, who is potentially portrayed as the leader of this team (or, at the very least, the reboot's lead character). 

"If you do go back through the comics, you realize that Sue Storm is arguably the leader of the Fantastic Four, because without Sue Storm, everything falls apart," he explained. "We had the desire to date aesthetically, but in terms of character and treatment, who should be front and center, it's like, hey, let's tell the best story possible."

The site also spoke with Vanessa Kirby, who recalled laughing with Reed Richards actor Pedro Pascal when they read a comic from the 1960s that saw him buy Sue a dress to stop her from complaining. She similarly hopes to modernise the character, but didn't want to make Sue a "bad boss bitch." Instead, she set out to find a "genuine feminine soulfulness."

Discussing Pascal's support during that process, Kirby said, "I've never had a male actor as a counterpart who's been so utterly equal and supportive of the relationship, but also the female character opposite him. I just feel so grateful every day to have an actor like Pedro who is so generous."

He responded by sharing, "I love being led in a way. What you may identify as generosity for me, it just isn't. I'm only inspired by...I guess just powerful women have been the thing that has gotten me through being alive."

"So, to have the opportunity to stand by one, to learn from one — just a partner, it's partnership; it’s male and female, but it's also just a kind of transcendent sort of partnership in the work and in the characters," Pascal continued. "And, so I don't really know what the f*** I'm gonna do without you [Vanessa] honestly."

These remarks will generate the expected complaints, but it's clear that everyone involved is following the comics. Pascal and Kirby, meanwhile, appear to have devoted a lot of thought and time to getting this relationship right on screen. 

The Fantastic Four: First Steps' story looks set to revolve around Sue, largely because she will be pregnant with (and ultimately give birth to) Franklin Richards. The Invisible Woman has been established as the most powerful member of this team for decades, so putting her front and centre feels like the right decision for the team's introduction in the MCU. 

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal.

Paul Walter Hauser, John Malkovich, and Natasha Lyonne have been cast in mystery roles. Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom is rumoured to appear, though that's surely a given with Avengers: Doomsday on the way.

Director Matt Shakman worked with both Avatar: The Way of Water co-writer Josh Friedman and WandaVision's Cam Squires on The Fantastic Four: First Steps' screenplay, with Eric Pearson (Black Widow) later coming on board for a final polish.

The movie is set to be released in theaters on July 25, 2025.

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UltimaRex
UltimaRex - 6/8/2025, 7:13 AM
Somewhere in the distance, you-know-who is already foaming at the mouth lol...
lvcl
lvcl - 6/8/2025, 9:27 AM
@UltimaRex -

Disney WOKE strikes back!

This movies IS not about the FF, they are The wokenstastic Four!
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 6/8/2025, 9:36 AM
@lvcl - With your permission; I'd like to use that one: "The WOKEtastic Four!" 😄
abd00bie
abd00bie - 6/8/2025, 3:34 PM
@UltimaRex - Make America Foam lol
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/8/2025, 7:15 AM
When you click on his name this comes up.

Unkown ComicBookMovie.com User

User Comment Image
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 7:23 AM
@AllsGood - thank goodness! I’m surprised it took this long but at the same time, in the past, banned users would get new usernames. I can think of one person who has had about four or five different names.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/8/2025, 7:33 AM
@epc1122 - I wasn't Booted I Cancelled my DOUBLED Account on my own. Once you Cancel your Account you can't turn it back on. I had to create new account AllsGood :)

I already covered this with Nate, Make America and AllsNot.
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 7:56 AM
@AllsGood - to be perfectly honest, I was absolutely not referring to you. Without using names, they’re a smarter version of makeamerica and would prob get a long with him but they’re a huge fan of gunn’s version of Superman so he can’t stand makemaerica either.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/8/2025, 8:04 AM
@epc1122 - Alls Good :)
Vigor
Vigor - 6/8/2025, 9:04 AM
@epc1122 - twistedmedia? Origame?
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 9:11 AM
@Vigor - are those posters? If so, then no. Don’t want to start something but this poster has had like four names bc they’ve been banned. They have a ton of knowledge on comics but never sees the other persons point of view and always thinks they’re right. Reminds me of my uncle lol
RolandD
RolandD - 6/8/2025, 11:47 AM
@epc1122 - Counterpoint.
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 12:07 PM
@RolandD - ?
RolandD
RolandD - 6/8/2025, 12:20 PM
@epc1122 - That is the first username of the poster that I thought you were referring to. He was the first Herman and currently goes by. Pictili. He also has historically gone off on Jews, which I find ironic since his favorite superhero was created by Siegel and Shuster, who were both Jewish. There are clear parallels between the story of Moses and the story of Superman, at least the origin stories.
RolandD
RolandD - 6/8/2025, 12:21 PM
@epc1122 - At least the first username that I am aware of.
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 12:41 PM
@RolandD - oh, I didn’t know he had the username counterpoint. My first interactions with him I think he went by shinzo and then he had a few other names before pictili. But yeah, that’s who I was referring to. Extremely knowledgeable but I find him to be extremely narrow minded. Even when he’s wrong or hypocritical he won’t admit it. I find it to be pretty sad. But I do think he tries to be more mindful of what he says because I don’t think he wants to be banned again.
RolandD
RolandD - 6/8/2025, 12:43 PM
@epc1122 - I was thinking the same thing earlier when I responded about him appearing to be more mindful of what he posts.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/8/2025, 1:09 PM
@RolandD - hmm I've also seen another Herman, the first one blocked me lmao. I had no clue Pictili was the same, but it makes sense because he's always simping for Supes. At least he shut up about race. THERE ARE OTHERS. Take note, or you'll be gone too
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 1:19 PM
@RolandD - he still has some irrational beliefs but I don’t think he’s insulting as much which is always a positive 👍
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 1:23 PM
@bobevanz - shinzo, herman, giverofinfo, and pictili are all one in the same. At least I’m pretty sure of it. There’s ogherman but he’s a disgusting spoof of Herman. Haven’t read too much from him but he’s equally as inappropriate and not one for a superhero discussion but it is what it is. Pictili id really only for “his version” of Superman, not for Superman overall bc he hates the Snyderverse and the cw version. Only what he deems to be Superman.
RolandD
RolandD - 6/8/2025, 2:01 PM
@epc1122 - He is a big fan of the John Byrne reboot of Superman, also. It’s another tell. He will talk about how Ma Kent made the super suit, the only thing alien about him is his powers, not how he thinks of himself, he’s not an immigrant because he was born on Earth in the birthing matrix, etc.
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 2:20 PM
@RolandD - yea. This new suit for the movie seems kryptonian and yet he’s fine with it. His versions of Superman are the only takes that he finds acceptable even though the character has endured for over 80 years.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/8/2025, 3:00 PM
@RolandD - I thought I remember original Herman going off on James Gunn regularly though?
RolandD
RolandD - 6/8/2025, 3:11 PM
@McMurdo - I don’t know. You could be right about that, but he was not doing that once we got the first look at the super suit and the behind the scene pics that followed shortly after that. I do recall he didn’t like some things about the super suit and there’s the things that I actually agree with him on, but overall, he was real positive about Gunn as I recall. I’m not gonna swear to it either and I don’t have screenshots cause it’s not that important to me.😂🤣
Vigor
Vigor - 6/8/2025, 9:12 PM
@epc1122 - the guy you're talking about is a full on, unadulterated nazi
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/8/2025, 10:53 PM
@Vigor - I am no fan of the guy and he’s said some pretty horrible things, but as someone who’s Jewish I don’t take that word lightly. I also wouldn’t call someone, especially someone who I’ve never met and just on a comic discussion board, would I use that term. He has some strong irrational beliefs, unless I missed something, he’s not killing anyone.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/9/2025, 8:35 AM
@epc1122 - I don't believe killing is a prerequisite for being a nazi

We had self proclaimed nazis show up to Philly a few times recently. They (to my knowledge) did not kill anyone.

Nazi is an ideology. Not a militaristic force
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/9/2025, 6:32 PM
@Vigor - probably because they wouldn’t get away with killing since it’s not legal here. While it’s not a prerequisite, persecution was a big part of being a nazi. To my knowledge; the user we’re talking about hasn’t said anything anti-Semitic, but he has very strong beliefs regarding black and white and not changing the race of characters who aren’t real.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/9/2025, 7:40 PM
@epc1122 - he has said black people should go back to Africa. Yes even African Americans. The nazis historically didn't persecute only jews. They also targeted gays, mentally crippled, and yes the blacks.

He follows neo nazi ideology. Let's call a spade a spade. Being complacent to evil is what allows it to flourish
epc1122
epc1122 - 6/9/2025, 8:08 PM
@Vigor - I would be more inclined to consider him racist rather than a nazi. While nazi’s targeted more than Jewish people, I haven’t really seen or read him saying against people who are Jewish. Not that any of this is any good and it’s kind of splitting hairs, and im certainly not saying he’s a good person, at least on here, but I still would t consider him a nazi. But with that said, I don’t know him personally. He can be pretty frustrating to communicate with on here but lately I think he’s been trying to be less confrontational and stick to his point that he’s excited for the new movie. Either way, I wouldn’t lose sleep over him 👍😉
Nolanite
Nolanite - 6/8/2025, 7:26 AM
There they go jacking shit up.

They need to face the facts that this movie is going to fail miserably. Sure it will have a good opening weekend but it will have a huge and significant drop off in it's second weekend.

Another flop for Marvel and Disney.

I'll be too busy watching Superman many times.

May Marvel rot in hell.

Nolanite out
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/8/2025, 8:18 AM
@Nolanite - I think Superman is gonna have an even bigger opening weekend, mostly down to the dog and the Gunn-ness of it all. But with it being too much of a parody (due to unexplained rando superpeople) I think it will have a massive drop off and the rest of the DCU will probably continue to flop DCEU-style.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/8/2025, 9:27 AM
@Nolanite - Marvel Studios, The Fantastic Four: First Steps predict a strong $125m-136M+ debut.
SuperiorHeckler
SuperiorHeckler - 6/8/2025, 9:32 AM
@Nolanite - Yeah but, I bet Josh is gonna' LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it nonetheless! His opening-weekend "review" will be gushing! 😍❤️😍
Nolanite
Nolanite - 6/8/2025, 11:24 AM
@AllsGood - bet you that those numbers are fake and it's just someone creating random numbers and claiming that the movie is going to be huge.

The Fantastic Flop will bury itself into a pile of shit.

And when it happens, I will be there to laugh without feeling bad for them.

Nolanite out
Rpendo
Rpendo - 6/8/2025, 1:18 PM
@Nolanite - lol

I love your utterly pointless, impotent disdain.

If you don’t like the stuff, just don’t watch it. I am completely flummoxed as to why you and others here waste so much time and energy re-iterating that you don’t like something.

Like…we get it. Repeating the same basic thing over and over in thread after thread is tedious.

Cool sign-off, bro.
EternalMikeHunt
EternalMikeHunt - 6/8/2025, 2:34 PM
@Rpendo - And YOU could do the same. If you don't like someone's comment because it varies from yours, just move on. Dont make the effort to type and post. Clearly, some are upset that a bunch of yahoos with an overzealous woken agenda are affecting property that tens of millions have loved for 60 years. But PLEASE, DO create your agenda. Just use your own characters/universe to do so.
Rpendo
Rpendo - 6/8/2025, 2:47 PM
@EternalMikeHunt - Whiny bitch bitches like a whiner…

Keep on fighting the power on a website for comic movies, killer.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/8/2025, 3:03 PM
@ObserverIO - having Guy Garnder and Hawkgirl as corporatized heroes isn't parody. It's narrative. It's to contrast Supes and essentially give us a reverse Kingdom Come. And those heroes are going to be the reason Supes has a drop off, if it does have a drop off.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/8/2025, 3:47 PM
@McMurdo - It's good narrative in those respects and bad narrative in others. I'm prejudging it, but after James Gunn just recently displayed a poor understanding of the term metahuman I doubt we'll get anything remotely close to a metagenetic catch-all explanation to set up his world populated by superheroes thing.
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