THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Star Julia Garner On Her "Ambiguous" Silver Surfer And MCU Future - SPOILERS

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Star Julia Garner On Her "Ambiguous" Silver Surfer And MCU Future - SPOILERS

Julia Garner has weighed-in on her upcoming MCU debut as a female take on the Silver Surfer in Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps...

By MarkCassidy - Apr 24, 2025 05:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Last year, we got confirmation that The Fantastic Four: First Steps will introduce a female take on Marvel Comics' classic space-faring hero, the Silver Surfer - but not the version of the character fans are most familiar with.

Emmy Award-winner Julia Garner (Ozark, Inventing Anna) will play the movie's Surfer, but not a gender-switched take on Norrin Radd. Garner will actually take on the role of Shalla-Bal.

In the original Marvel Comics continuity, Shalla-Bal was the Empress of the planet Zenn-La, and was the first love of Norrin Radd. When Galactus came to devour their planet, Radd volunteered to become his herald in exchange for sparing Zenn-La. Later, when Franklin Richards took over as the new Galactus, he imbued Shalla with the same cosmic powers and allowed her to serve as a twin herald alongside Radd.

The recent full trailer for FF gave us a first glimpse of the Sentinel of the Spaceways in action, and Garner has now shared some new details on this new version of the character during an in-depth interview with EW.

Garner reveals that she was aware of the character, but had no idea the Surfer was who Matt Shakman wanted her to play when she met him about potentially boarding the project.

"We met up at some restaurant in Burbank or something, I don't even remember, but I knew it was for the Fantastic Four. And then I was confused because I was like, 'Wait, isn't the Silver Surfer a man?' I was just like, 'Okay, well, I'll play anything.' [Laughs] I was a very big fan of Matt's, so there was already, in my mind, like, 'I should probably meet with Matt Shakman because he's a very smart director and I love his work.' And then he was explaining to me that it's actually Shalla-Bal and that whole thing."

Possible (mild) spoilers follow.

As for whether we'll learn about Shalla's origin in this movie, Garner was careful not to reveal too much, but it does sound like she might just end up having second thoughts about her loyalty to the Eater of Worlds.

"I have to be so cryptic about everything, otherwise I'm going to have Marvel come after me. But it was described as there's this mystery about her, and there's this sense of this ambiguous energy going on of whether she's good or not. She is the herald of Galactus, so she works for Galactus, but you're not sure where she stands. Does she stand with her boss, or is she just doing what she's told? She has this mysterious energy about her, and slowly that mystery will get solved with the audience throughout watching it."

"All I can say is that she works for Galactus and that she's mysterious, and the character will unfold more towards the end of the movie. That's all I can say. I know it's a very Marvel tease, but also it's like a real tease. I haven't seen the movie myself!"

Rumor has it that Garner will only appear as the Silver Surfer in this movie, with Norrin Radd set to be introduced in the 616 Universe down the line. Garner declined to confirm or deny the possibility of returning at some point ("we'll see"), but does sound excited about the prospect of a spin-off.

"A hundred percent, I would love to do that. The Silver Surfer is such a cool character, and I feel like it's so rare to be presented with any sort of mystery in this day and age. So any kind of energy like that on screen, I know I want to see that, so that would be awesome if that happened."

The Fantastic Four reboot also stars Vanessa Kirby (Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning) as Sue Storm, aka the Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn (Stranger Things, A Quiet Place Day One) as Johnny Storm, aka The Human Torch, and Ebon Moss-Bachrach (The Punisher, The Bear) as Ben Grimm, aka the Thing. 

Natasha Lyonne, Paul Walter Hauser and John Malkovich are also on board in undisclosed roles. 

Kevin Feige recently confirmed that the movie will take place in an alternate universe, but we know that Marvel's First Family will appear in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars, so we wouldn't be surprised if they find their way into the main MCU timeline by the end of this movie.

"Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal."

Matt Shakman directs The Fantastic Four: First Steps, which is set to hit theaters on July 25, 2025.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 4/24/2025, 5:03 PM
no nipples, no movie ticket
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 4/24/2025, 5:30 PM
@harryba11zack - Camel Toe or I Won’t Go!
DocSpock
DocSpock - 4/24/2025, 5:39 PM
@BruceWayng -

I got in a lot of trouble trying to use that line to get out of going to church.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:01 PM
@DocSpock -

You just say you're a woman and go in the ladies' restroom.

And then you stand in front of the mirror and lift up your shirt.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 4/24/2025, 6:07 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

No thanks. I'll take your word for it.
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 4/24/2025, 6:24 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Ur a weird guy
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:27 PM
@UncleHarm1 -

We've all seen the things you say.

You are in no position to be calling anyone weird.
SodaBurps
SodaBurps - 4/24/2025, 7:30 PM
@BruceWayng - No silver beaver? Walk out and leave er!
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 4/24/2025, 7:43 PM
@SodaBurps - no ass, ill pass
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 4/24/2025, 5:05 PM
I won't lie.

She looks ridiculous.

Cool but stupidly ridiculous.

Also, who gives a [frick] about her?🤷‍♂️

For [frick]s Sake
captainwalker
captainwalker - 4/24/2025, 6:17 PM
@THEKENDOMAN - Surfing through space, what a stupid concept.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 4/24/2025, 6:28 PM
@captainwalker - Yeah, someone call Blue Origin.🙄
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 4/24/2025, 5:10 PM
Let me guess she tells Galactus. "Who are you to tell me what to do....I'm a strong independent woman.....I don't need no man"
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 4/24/2025, 5:12 PM
@AllsNotGood - 😂😂😂
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:03 PM
@AllsNotGood -

I don't be needin' no world eater to make things happen, you sorry ass triflin'
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 4/24/2025, 6:25 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Embarrassing
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:28 PM
@UncleHarm1 -

Yeah, those people are.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 4/24/2025, 5:15 PM
One and done.

AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 4/24/2025, 5:19 PM
@MarvelZombie616 - can only hope
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:04 PM
@MarvelZombie616 -

Even so, let it be, Jesus.
JurassicClunge
JurassicClunge - 4/24/2025, 5:15 PM
Disney are afraid to give her lady parts, that's why she looks weird.

Her build is boxy and there is hardly any definition to her model, almost like an N64 game 😮‍💨😩
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:05 PM
@JurassicClunge -

*psst*

That'd just ***** Julia Garner.
JurassicClunge
JurassicClunge - 4/24/2025, 6:06 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - i mean you aint wrong 😭😮‍💨😩
Vigor
Vigor - 4/24/2025, 8:13 PM
@JurassicClunge - youre not gonna see it because you can't wank to it
Typical
Reginator
Reginator - 4/24/2025, 5:16 PM
John Krasinski Probably dodged a bullet not being in this movie.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:06 PM
@Reginator -

Every actor not in this mega woke Marxist shit dodged a bullet.
Repian
Repian - 4/24/2025, 5:23 PM
Norrin Radd's Silver Surfer voiced by Laurence Fishburne for Secret War.
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MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:08 PM
@Repian -

We need some diversity with Norrin.

I could never see myself in '00s Norrin.

It's so important for people to see themselves in movies.

Norrin should be voiced by a White man.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 4/24/2025, 5:25 PM
We can do a Agatha, iron heart and silver surfher spinoff. Going around the world fighting injustice
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:09 PM
@AllsNotGood -

"Folk who chest feed get it done."
Odekahn
Odekahn - 4/24/2025, 5:26 PM
“I was like, 'Wait, isn't the Silver Surfer a man?'

Yeah, so was everyone else. But Disney is gonna Disney.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:19 PM
@Odekahn -

"They say that what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right; that black is white and white is black; bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter."
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:21 PM
@Odekahn -

“I was like, 'Wait, isn't Reed not a shlubby stoner with a mustache?'

“I was like, 'Wait, isn't Johnny a good looking guy who gets chicks?'

“I was like, 'Wait, isn't Thing a tough guy with a gravelly voice?'

“I was like, 'Wait, isn't Susan a more traditionally beautiful woman?'
asherman93
asherman93 - 4/24/2025, 7:13 PM
@Odekahn - Norrid Radd is. This is Shalla Bal.
Odekahn
Odekahn - 4/24/2025, 7:28 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - You hit the nail on the head with that! 👏🏻
Odekahn
Odekahn - 4/24/2025, 7:31 PM
@asherman93 - I know who the character is, that wasn’t my point.

I think most people were expecting the Silver Surfer people actually care about to be introduced first in the MCU, before the knock offs. This is like Captain Carter being introduced before Steve Rogers.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/24/2025, 5:29 PM
Interesting…

I could see in this universe that Shalla Bal offered herself to Galactus as his herald to save her people , world & love in Norrin Radd then the latter.

Anyway , I don’t mind them utilizing Shalla Bal as the Silver Surfer for atleast this film because not only due to comic precedent but also trying to make this third (fourth if you count the 90’s film) literation of the team in live action as fresh as possible especially since we have had a Galactus & Silver Surfer take before…

Granted with Galactus , they went for a more “comic accurate” take since the one in the 2007 film was not but Silver Surfer was pretty much perfect so if you want to use that character again then Shalla Bal or Juno (Hercules’s granddaughter) could work since they have held the mantle in the comics aswell.

Anyway , I’m looking forward to Garner’s performance and this take on the character!!.

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Pictilli
Pictilli - 4/24/2025, 5:44 PM
TLDR: she's playing the Silver Surfer and even has his origin and the "Shalla-Bal" name drop is just a technicality meant to act as a shield against real comic book fans who are unhappy with the Silver Surfer being sex changed, since she is not Shalla-Bal, she has Norrin Radd's origin and storyarc.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/24/2025, 6:24 PM
@Pictilli -

You're exactly right.
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