LORD OF THE RINGS Movie Producer Reveals What They Have The Rights To After THE RINGS OF POWER's TV Launch

LORD OF THE RINGS Movie Producer Reveals What They Have The Rights To After THE RINGS OF POWER's TV Launch

The Rings of Power launching on Amazon somewhat complicated the situation surrounding The Lord of the Rings' rights, and producer Philippa Boyens has now explained what exactly they can bring to theaters.

By JoshWilding - May 18, 2024 03:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Lord of the Rings
Source: Deadline (via SFFGazette.com)

There's been a lot of speculation surrounding who holds which rights to The Lord of the Rings franchise. Last year, New Line Cinema renewed its 25-year-old license with Middle-earth Enterprises, a company now owned by Embracer Group.

They immediately made plans to develop a new slate of movies, with the first of those recently confirmed to be Andy Serkis' The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt for Gollum

Amazon, on the other hand, negotiated directly with the Tolkien Estate for rights the family still held outside of anything New Line, MEE or Embracer, explaining why The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power is a "prequel" to the movies released on streaming rather than in theaters.

Interestingly, both New Line and Amazon can now use the same characters...just at different times in their lives. Talking to Deadline (via SFFGazette.com), movie producer and writer Philippa Boyens addressed any potential clashes with the Prime Video series. 

"There’s room enough for lots of people to exist within that space," she said. "We’ve never wanted to be the gatekeepers of Middle Earth. Sometimes other people put you in that position, but we don’t feel that. Honestly, I haven’t seen any of it. I didn’t want to go watch too much, because I genuinely didn’t want to be influenced."

"But I think it’s a fantastic era, as a choice. The making of the rings of power is a brilliant piece of storytelling. It’s a great era, full of fascinating characters."

"We have the right to the Lord of the Rings and the appendices, and that’s it," Boyens clarified. "I would love to see that expand if there was the opportunity to do so, but there is so much that is in those three books...look at War of the Rohirrim. It’s a page and a half at first glance in the books. But there are lots of threads in there throughout the book."

With only the main books to play with, The Lord of the Rings movies will be restricted to expanding small moments like that into big screen stories, meaning much of what we see moving forward will have to be largely original material. 

That doesn't mean tales like The War of the Rohirrim won't be worth exploring, according to Boyens. 

"War of the Rohirrim sits 200 years before the events of the ring, and it really is a standalone story," she says. "It was one of the reasons that I came to that story when we were looking to do something that would fit with anime. We wanted to do something that really had nothing to do with rings of power or Sauron or the Dark Tower or wizards, even."

"It’s a story about a people who are tearing themselves apart. So that felt like a really good fit, not only for anime, but to go into a new art form which anime is, and try and tell a story based in Middle-earth without touching really upon the live action films, if that makes sense."

The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim arrives in theaters on December 13, with The Hunt for Gollum set to follow in 2026. 

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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 5/18/2024, 3:38 AM
Another huge REVEAL!!!!!
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/18/2024, 9:56 AM
@TheFinestSmack - lol truly
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/18/2024, 4:16 AM
"We wanted to do something that really had nothing to do with rings of power or Sauron or the Dark Tower or wizards, even."

Wonder what it exactly makes it worth having the Middle-Earth setting then outside of name recognition alone. There has to be something to set it apart from other fantasy war movies.

Anyway, I kinda assumed Amazon had the Second Age rights and New Line the Third Age right, with the Tolkien Estate keeping the (pre-)First Age rights to themselves.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/18/2024, 10:11 AM
@bkmeijer1 -


"It’s a story about a people who are tearing themselves apart."

There's a human aspect to the story about a people who are waring within. It's not just good vs orc.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 5/18/2024, 11:54 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Amazon and New Line have the same rights to the same materials. I believe New Line has film rights and Amazon television rights
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/18/2024, 6:04 PM
@McMurdo - that is a good take, but it sounds like it could still be set in any fantasy setting
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 5/18/2024, 6:07 PM
@MrDandy - that makes sense too, given what I take from the article is that both their sources are everything that can be taken from the LOTR trilogy books
Fogs
Fogs - 5/18/2024, 6:07 AM
The wow moment to me is when she said anime was a new art form.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 5/18/2024, 7:45 AM
Frodo should have just put the ring up his a55 and called it a day.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/18/2024, 8:09 AM
Cool!!.

I can understand some fans having issues with them expanding on more minor things in the books but Tolkien’s world is so rich that I feel like as long as those threads end up the way they are meant to , atleast in regards to adhering to continuity in the books or the movies then I have no issue with fleshing them out more & telling stories in the different corners of that universe.

Anyway , I’m intrigued by War of The Rohirrim and very cautiously optimistic about Hunt for Gollum so fingers crossed!!.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/18/2024, 8:24 AM
They have the right to suck donkey dicks. As evidenced by Season One.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/18/2024, 8:55 AM

"but to go into a new art form which anime is" !!??!

Was Boyens drunk, stupid, or uninformed when she said this? Anime is older than my wrinkled old a$$.

(And I still say anime & manga are Japan's revenge on the USA for losing WWII)

JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 5/18/2024, 9:28 AM
@DocSpock - I wouldn’t say revenge. More like a peace offering. Kind of like Italy. We don’t heavily think of them as nefarious outside of WW2, because they exported their food. And the Japanese gave anime and Nintendo.

The Germans are still working on it. Though Oktoberfest was a good start
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/18/2024, 10:08 AM
@DocSpock - maybe she means for the IP?
MrDandy
MrDandy - 5/18/2024, 11:46 AM
For those who don’t know, the appendices of the 2nd age (where Rings of Power takes place) is only a short 2 paragraphs. Everything else is in The Silmarillion and A History of Middle Earth. Both of which Amazon has no rights to.

This is why people call it big budget fan-fiction.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/18/2024, 11:53 AM
Sauron puts on a disguise to look like an Elf. Looks more like an Elf from the books and movies than the Elves look in the show.

I look forward to seeing people rip the shit out of this show.
DerekLake
DerekLake - 5/18/2024, 12:11 PM
So they have the rights to the exact same material as Amazon?
Super12
Super12 - 5/19/2024, 1:43 PM
@DerekLake - Kind of. Embracer Group/ME Enterprises have the film rights to the LOTR trilogy, Hobbit, and the appendices. Amazon have the TV rights for the same books.

None of them have rights to the Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, or other books, as those are still held firmly by the Tolkien Estate.

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