GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 Director James Gunn Reiterates LOVE AND THUNDER Didn't Impact The Guardians

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 Director James Gunn Reiterates LOVE AND THUNDER Didn't Impact The Guardians

Director James Gunn has said that Thor: Love and Thunder did not affect the story of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 because Thor was never part of the film.

By DanielKlissmman - Jul 27, 2022 10:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Vol. 3
Source: Screen Rant

James Gunn has once again stated that Thor: Love and Thunder did not impact the story of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. Avengers: Endgame ended with the God of Thunder joining the Guardians following Thanos' defeat. Prior to Endgame's release, Vol. 3 was expected to premiere in May 2020, before Love and Thunder (which would be given a 2021 release date in 2019).

In 2018, however, Gunn was taken off the film due to past tweets, ultimately delaying the project. Gunn was later rehired, and Vol. 3 was given a 2023 release date. That, combined with significant date-shifting, meant that Love and Thunder ended up coming out in 2022, a year before Vol. 3. Thor's fourth solo adventure featured everyone's favorite space a-holes in a very small capacity, which begged the question of whether or not the film had impacted the storyline in Vol. 3.

Speaking with Screen Rant at SDCC 2022, Gunn was asked whether or not Thor: Love and Thunder had influenced the Guardians going into Vol. 3. The director replied that his script never included the God of Thunder: "No, I wrote the script without ever thinking that they were ever going to be with Thor, so it hasn't affected them at all."

This echoes Gunn's previous comments. Earlier in July 2022, he responded to a podcast speculating on what Guardians of the Galaxy. Vol. 3 would have looked like with Thor, stating: "I appreciate the love but Thor was never going to be in Vol 3."

There was, however, collaboration between Gunn and Love and Thunder helmer Taika Waititi when it came to how the Guardians were handled in the Thor franchise, as Waititi explained during an interview with Total Film (via CBR.com): 

"James [Gunn] had always been supportive of me, when I first came into Marvel on Ragnarok. [...] But his style is very different. He's very particular about his scripts, and about the way his characters speak. Obviously I wrote the script, and I always knew we were going to kind of just hand those scenes to him, and say, 'How do these characters talk? Have I missed a character?' [...] He would go through it, and go, 'Groot wouldn't say something like that. He'd be a bit more like this.' So, he was very helpful in that way."

Thor not factoring into Vol. 3 is somewhat surprising, considering how significant it was for him to team up with Quill and co. While it's tricky to know how the film would have addressed that without the God of Thunder physically there, his absence could have theoretically been explained away through dialogue. 

Keeping The Guardians Standalone For Their Last Ride

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Despite its larger-than-life scale and its first installment featuring Thanos, the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise has been relatively standalone from the rest of MCU. As such, not having another major hero in Vol. 3 isn't entirely unexpected.

It makes more sense considering the film is planned to be the end of this iteration of the Guardians, as Gunn confirmed to Deadline's Hero Nation podcast in early 2022: "[The] movie [is] big; I mean, it's so, so, so big and dark, and different than what people might be expecting it to be. [...] This is the end for us. This is the last time people will see this team of Guardians. That's where we are."

Gunn then stated at SDCC 2022 (via Deadline): "This is the end of that story. I’m sorry. Some stories have an end. It doesn't mean everybody dies."

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 flies into theaters on May 5, 2023. Before that, the heroes' corner of the MCU will return with I Am Groot, a series of shorts coming to Disney+ on August 10, 2022. 

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TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/27/2022, 10:05 AM
Love & Thunder had an script?
Anyway, I dont want that movie even near Guardians 3.
dragon316
dragon316 - 7/27/2022, 10:17 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - as long it’s better from second one don’t care what happens
Dredd97
Dredd97 - 7/27/2022, 10:40 AM
@dragon316 - I'm sure it'll be better than 2. 2 was better than 1
Drewwright816
Drewwright816 - 7/27/2022, 10:18 AM
Why would it impact GG vol 3? It didn’t even impact Thor love and thunder
hazapez
hazapez - 7/27/2022, 10:19 AM
@Drewwright816 - bc endgame made it seem like they were going to have an actual significant adventure together
mdwilliamson24
mdwilliamson24 - 7/27/2022, 10:26 AM
@hazapez - And they probably did have several adventures together. It had been basically 3 years since Thor left with them from EndGame to Love & Thunder.

Would love to see a comic run or animated series based during that 3 year timeframe.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 7/27/2022, 11:16 AM
@hazapez -
In all fairness, it's still common in the comics themselves, with a new plot point or character introduced and teased at the end of one issue, only to be abrupted dismissed at the beginning of the next issue.

Classic bait and switch in entertainment and business.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 7/27/2022, 12:02 PM
@Drewwright816 - The problem is Infinity War.
James Gunn said years ago that the Guardians movie would be their own thing, not depending on any other MCU movie, and to be fair, 1 and 2 are their own thing...but the main plot of 3 revolves around the team dealing with Gamora's death, and having to come to terms with the fact the Gamora they meet is not their Gamora, and such a big event happened outside the Guardians trilogy.
Maybe Infinity War can be considered "Guardians 2.5"...
thewanderer
thewanderer - 7/27/2022, 10:21 AM
it seems some people are going to get their wish in that the MCU is getting "darker" (and less comedic).

Wakanda Forever of course is going to be a serious film tackling serious topics.

The leak Quatumania footage seems to suggest that this may be darker than previous Ant-Man movies.

And then they talked at length about how dark the Guardians Vol 3 may get, with people dying and dealing with the tragic creation of Rocket (and I'm sure we'll see other creations as well). The leaked footage of Rocket being "taken" is already a tearjerker.

Then also Secret Invasion, Blade and Daredevil Reborn.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/27/2022, 10:23 AM
It was merely to promote their ACTUAL Vacation for their holiday special. Lame.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 7/27/2022, 10:23 AM
I think its hilarious how pissed people are about Love and Thunder. You asked for that movie, fellas, you got what you wanted.
mdwilliamson24
mdwilliamson24 - 7/27/2022, 10:37 AM
@Razorface1 - I did ask for it, but I'm not pissed about it in the slightest. I know its got its issues that prevent it from being good to great even, but there was(is) a good movie in there. It's obvious it was cut to shreds and poorly edited for sure.

I know Marvel Studios never does extended cuts, but I think one here could vindicate it a bit. It wouldn't make it perfect but perhaps better than what we got.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 7/27/2022, 10:47 AM
@mdwilliamson24 - Then my comment is clearly not about, you, is it?
LSHF
LSHF - 7/27/2022, 10:30 AM
Yep, the Asguardians of the Galaxy are no more, so there is no reason it would affect the third film which takes place after their separation. Makes 100% sense.
vegetaray
vegetaray - 7/27/2022, 10:31 AM
I mean, they were in the movie for 3 1/2 minutes, so yeah 🤷‍♂️…
Origame
Origame - 7/27/2022, 10:34 AM
Yeah, so much for planning. Why have Thor join the guardians if it's not gonna affect anything?

It was clearly just there in endgame to tease future films. Wtf?
QuietStorm
QuietStorm - 7/27/2022, 11:09 AM
@Origame -
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/27/2022, 10:34 AM
Notes to Taika from Gunn,
“Groot wouldn’t say “I am Groot.” He’d actually say, “I AM Groot.””
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/27/2022, 10:37 AM
Love and Thunder didn't impact anything for anyone, other than the sanity of real Thor fans of course.








James Gunn is to be protected at all costs. I hope he gets a large corner of the live action DC universe. TSS was amazing especially on the character level. Shit like that really sticks out after you see a lifeless masturbatory husk like Love and Thunder.
Radders
Radders - 7/27/2022, 10:52 AM
@McMurdo - I enjoyed TSS but it did feel like a souped up version of the A-Team at times
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/27/2022, 10:54 AM
@Radders - I mean fair but I don't know that such a critique is a negative thing lol.
Radders
Radders - 7/27/2022, 11:44 AM
@McMurdo - lol possibly not
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