Champions Battle Poll (Week 9: Round 3)

Today's fights are:
Green Arrow vs Bullseye...
Wildcat vs Elektra...
Darkseid vs Thanos...

Feature Opinion
By GuardianDevil - Apr 24, 2013 01:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Other
Source: Fenix122

Previous battles:
Bullseye beat Huntress.
Red Skull beat Comedian.
Deadshot beat Punisher.

As always be objective when voting, and use most iconic version unless otherwise stated.

Bullseye vs Green Arrow




Elektra vs Wildcat



Thanos vs Darkseid



Marvel Bricks

Last week Hulk took first place in the Marvel Bricks ultimate brawl. Now, they fight for second place.




Thanks for voting, please express your opinion in the comments and feel free to explain your decisions.
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relentless1
relentless1 - 4/24/2013, 2:46 PM
Bullseye
Wildcat
Darkseid
Hercules
thunderforce
thunderforce - 4/24/2013, 3:48 PM
In that Brawl I would first think Thor because he is as strong as these guys and with Warriors Madness he is 10 times stronger but I am not sure how powerful he is magically without Mjolnir so I don't know if he could beat Juggernaut because that would take a magic assist .
FOOM
FOOM - 4/24/2013, 4:18 PM
Bullseye
Not sure
Thanos (but just)
Jugs
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/24/2013, 5:11 PM
@thunderforce
Warrior's madness isn't Thor's most iconic version. He only goes into that like what, every several hundred years??
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/24/2013, 5:44 PM
LOL, the seedy one is a victim of poor storytelling. At least the winner was based on the loser, once upon a time (1972). Evidently a lot of happened since then, making the clone so much better than the original.

On the 4th battle we pretty much debated this last week. The Juggernaut would be the obvious winner. Especially since we are dealing with 50% of Thor. I really don't see the logic of taking away Thor's hammer for these fights. But I'm not the ringleader so…
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/24/2013, 5:50 PM
Oh yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that a trained assassin, especially a w world-class trained assassin would have their way with an over the hill retired boxer. Sounds harsh, but hey I didn't invent these characters. Maybe somebody could point me out to a good Wildcat story were he isn't portrayed as a grumpy old man, or a worn out cheap imitation of the Batman.
SageMode
SageMode - 4/24/2013, 7:16 PM
SPIDEYQUAD

1. He single-handedly gained the upperhand against of the Injustice Society.

2. Takes down Solomon Grundy.

3. Stalemates Batman on like 2 occasions.

4. Beats down Killer Croc.

5. Was able to subdue the Flash while in motion.

Those I can only think off the top...
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 4/24/2013, 8:58 PM
Green Arrow vs Bullseye

Green Arrow will probably nudge out a win.

Wildcat vs Electra

Wildcat wont go down easy but in the end Electra wins.

Darkseid vs Thanos

These two are pretty much the same guy with a different color scheme.I call it a draw.

Marvel Bricks

Who would take second place? Juggernaut.The only real competition he has left is in A-Bomb and maybe Hercules.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 6:27 AM
LL, you seem to be off your game.

I'm scratching my head on the 2nd fight, but…

The 3rd fight is why I'm responding. What is it with this "draw" crack? That's not one of the choices. Your capable of breaking down the "Marvel brick" fight, but you just turn your back on fight number 3?

We do get a lot of draws in the comics, but that's just the writers method of not committing or trying to keep everyone happy. That's not how I see this exercise.

And while I'm on a rant, I think I'll address another peeve of mine, and that's people refusing to vote, but taking the time to explain why. People if you're going to take the time to put multiple comments on why you are not voting, or bringing up a past fight I have a suggestion.

There is this little thing called Wikipedia that usually has thorough and accurate descriptions of most characters. Take a few minutes to check it out! Who knows, you may learn something. Then do the right thing, VOTE
scootaloo
scootaloo - 4/25/2013, 8:42 AM
I think this is the first time I've agreed with Loudlon, 2/4 anyways.
Green Arrow
Wildcat
Stalemate
Thor
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 9:15 AM
LOL electric, perhaps should look again. LL went with bull's-eye not green arrow silly :-)
scootaloo
scootaloo - 4/25/2013, 9:20 AM
I said 2/4, mofo. I agreed on the second and third fight.
scootaloo
scootaloo - 4/25/2013, 10:17 AM
And don't act so smug, Quad. Snot-nosed Marvelites...
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 11:21 AM
^lol
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 11:29 AM
How do you agree with someone 50% of the time LOL, explains one thing your taste in comics (or lack of).

I guarantee this was thought out without smugness or snotty nosed intent, mofo

Well, that is not entirely true. I dislike trolls, so that mostly include you because I have followed your rhetoric in the mains. My displeasure is also shared with Anime and Star Wars fans. Lastly I don't like wannabes. In short there is nothing about you that interests me, so go bait someone else.

And finally, last time I look "stalemate" was not a choice
scootaloo
scootaloo - 4/25/2013, 11:49 AM
I said I agreed with two out of four of his choices. You were annoyed by Loudlon’s choices, and in turn, tried to bait me into an argument. I fail to see how that makes me a troll.

Listen, mofo. I have an opinion, and I’m standing by it. It doesn’t mean I’m a troll, or trying to bait anyone.

Also, how does not being in complete agreement with someone mean I have a bad taste in comics? That's just stupid.
JuggyPunch
JuggyPunch - 4/25/2013, 12:20 PM
can't believe Thor is in the lead in the bruisers thing. Without the hammer he already lost against Herc and Juggs too. Thor lost against Rulk but like some of you fellas poined out that was prolly due to writer's lunacy. (god, I hate Loeb)
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 1:07 PM
Electric if you're not looking for trouble, which I believe you are, you are at least guilty of assuming. I consider Loud a good friend. If you had been here half the time you would understand this. I might not agree with his choices, but say I'm annoyed is beyond a stretch. I can't help how you perceive my text, but some of the best exchanges in this group come from people explaining their thought process. It's kind of hard to do that without any interaction.

You attacked me with your 2nd reply. It's been painfully obvious in the 2 or 3 times you've been here how biased you are and for what company. I called you out as a troll for other posts you have made along with your record in the hall of shame. You earned that.

And lastly, dude, mofo is not the most courteous of titles. Again giving away your ultimate purpose here. You are welcome here as everybody is, but I should warn you you will be called out for silly ridiculous things. As it should be. There's nothing wrong with self-regulation. Do your research, treat people with respect, and you will be a valued participant here. That choice, like your votes are your's to cast.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 1:28 PM
Loud, on the wiki front. I found it to be incredibly accurate. I understand the format and the need for caution, but comics is an area on pretty well-versed in. I do read Wikipedia out of curiosity and joy for the subject matter. Most of the things I read on Wikipedia I've been versed in since the early 70s. Again I have yet to find any inaccuracies.

I understand how and why you vote (or don't in a lot of cases) I just don't agree. If Fennix wants to change the voting to add draw or stalemate, or abstention for that matter, that is entirely up to him. Not voting because you don't know the character is reasonable. But you know the characters and you still choose not to vote. Again your prerogative. I just don't agree with it. As I mentioned above one of the stronger assets to this series is the conversations. Those don't just happen on accident, somebody brings up the question and the conversation grows from there.

On the final match I think these characters have been written a certain way over the past 4 decades. I think enough has been published to make a decent decision. One has chosen to make key decisions that have basically sabotaged his own plans, while the other constantly takes his lumps from the good guys. An easy choice from my point of view. As far as wildcat goes I've not known him to have any sustaining success in his own title. Justice Society is about the only place (Earth 2) I've ever seen the character and that includes during the 60s. While I have never been one to underestimate the skills of a professional boxer (their hands are registered as lethal weapons) wildcat has always been played as an over the hill retired fighter. Elektra Is a lethal killer equally adapt with weapons as with her own hands. She is also consistently portrayed as being in a prime. Maybe I have Canon Wildcat severely underestimated, but I do think I have a pretty good handle on the character. I thought maybe you are going to bring something to light I was not aware of.
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 1:29 PM
@ spideyquad, youve sounded hostile this entire time, cut the holier than thou bs dude, this is supposed to be a fun debate, people can say whatever they want to this isnt soviet russia and electricsuperman wasnt being a troll, right now you are, tryin to start shit
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 1:31 PM
and wildcat knows more than just boxing, hes adept at several other martial arts fyi and in superior condition for a man his size and weight
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 1:48 PM
and i do agree with spideyquad about wikipedia and the marvel/DC online databases, theyre quite accurate
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 1:48 PM
Relentless, that sounds like the same definition for every "normal hero". Is he or is he not a retired boxer? Maybe that's changed maybe he's a retired MMA fighter now? That's possible. Your beef with me is because you are completely biased and I call you out on it occasionally. Just last week you were trumpeting me to LoudlLon while he was calling you out on your hatred for Capt. America. Of everyone in this room you have the least amount credibility and that comes from your silly votes. For the thousandth time this is not a popularity contest. You want to do that run a poll. I made my decision on the way both characters have been handled over the years. Like I've said to you before go read an old comic.

If memory serves me right there the only person here who has declared a hatred towards a nation. I'm sure you don't like your teachers at school either right now. That may change once you reach the point where you realize the world isn't revolving around you. That usually happens around age 12-18 ;-)
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 2:14 PM
lol assumptions.. how am i biased? i vote for marvel characters just as much as dc, even if its begrudgingly so, even though i dont like cap doesnt mean i wont vote for him if i think hed win, and i started reading comics back in the late 80s, went to flea markets, picked up alot of the older stuff so i know alot about the history, i may not be as old as you but im far past 18 unfortunately :(
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 2:22 PM
and just because i dont vote the way youd vote doesnt make the vote silly, i try to provide reasoning as to how i think somebody would win/lose a match and thats all thats required so get off your high horse dude, u want to be end all be all of what goes and what doesnt in these polls then you should go make one of your own, until then i suggest you vote, explain reasoning behind them, have a intelligent debate when the need arises and move on
scootaloo
scootaloo - 4/25/2013, 2:33 PM
@SpideyQuad
Dude. Stop trying to act like you're some saint or some shit. Your first post was clearly smug, and looking for an argument. I agree with calling people out on ridiculous things, but you called me out on my OPINION. So don't act like you're the better man. Because you aren't. Whether you were trying to start a fight, or not, try not to act so smug because it can piss people off. Sorry if you take offense to the word mofo, I just call everyone that. I don't really mean anything by it, usually.

I'm also not a nooby on Fenix's fights, as I've been here since they started (not always commenting). And I haven't made any troll posts on this site, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/25/2013, 2:45 PM
Whoa, things just got real heated in here.

I think it's expectable that Quad and relentless would clash. From what I've seen (and please do correct me if I'm wrong) in my experience on here it seems that relentless1 loves DC but is not very fond of Marvel. While SpideyQuad loves Marvel, but looks down on DC. (again, if this assessment is incorrect then go ahead and correct me) so it's only natural that you two would clash.
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 4/25/2013, 2:46 PM
Electric go back and look your delusional. Relentless your record stands for itself I couldn't embellish it any better.
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/25/2013, 3:21 PM
@ fenix, i love alot of marvels characters, im a huge fan of spider man, have been since i was a kid, same with the x men, people just irritate me when they claim that im biased but they clearly are, im not saying that i havent shown favortism to batman in the past, but even then i tried to come up with good reasoning for his wins, some ppl on here are just haters on DC for no reason other than they prefer Marvel
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/25/2013, 4:09 PM
@relentless
Ah, I see thanks for correcting me. I understand what you mean though, I just had a conversation with another user on here who said he doesn't like DC, when I asked why he said the characters aren't interesting, then we continued the conversation and the dude said that he's never even read any DC comics. I convinced him to give it a shot, so far he's likin it. I think a lot of people are just closed off to the idea that you can like characters from two different rival companies.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/25/2013, 4:11 PM
or folks just think you gotta choose one or the other.
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