Disney's Dark Cloud Over Marvel has a Silver Lining

Disney's Dark Cloud Over Marvel has a Silver Lining

“They have done a nice job with the deals they have in place,” Disney Chief Financial Officer Tom Staggs said yesterday in an interview.

By peterparker420 - Sep 01, 2009 08:09 PM EST
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Source: bloomberg.com

This from Bloomberg.com

As Marvel’s new owner, Disney will collect license fees from Universal Orlando theme-park rides in Florida that include “The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man” and “Incredible Hulk Coaster,” as well as ticket sales from the films “Iron Man 2” and “Thor,” distributed by Viacom Inc.’s Paramount Pictures.

With Marvel, Disney is buying its way into business with competitors who have had rights to super-hero films, theme-park rides and television shows for years. Disney, based in Burbank, California, gains a stake in revenue streams that have enriched its rivals -- until it can take over the deals itself.

“I don’t think they’re going to play nice, I don’t think they’re going to share,” Jamie Rizzo, an analyst with Fitch Ratings in New York, said yesterday. “The days of licensing any of these characters to any of the other guys or letting any of the other guys distribute any of these movies is over.”

The deal helps Disney, which struggled earlier this year at the box office while competing studios benefited from superhero fare and franchises such as Paramount’s “Star Trek.”

Marvel has licensed X-Men to News Corp., Spider-Man to Sony Corp. and the Incredible Hulk to General Electric Co.’s NBC Universal Inc. Disney will get revenue from future projects involving those franchises, whose combined box-office take has totaled $4.5 billion worldwide, according to researcher Internet Movie Database.

“They have done a nice job with the deals they have in place,” Disney Chief Financial Officer Tom Staggs said yesterday in an interview. “When those deals expire, we’ll take a look at whether to bring them in-house.”

Paramount Deal

Paramount is exposed as the distributor of films made by Marvel, Michael Morris, an analyst , said yesterday in report. New York-based Marvel began making pictures on its own instead of licensing characters, starting with last year’s “Iron Man,” which took in $585.1 million worldwide, according to researcher Box Office Mojo.

Paramount’s deal runs out after five more Marvel movies, including two “Iron Man” sequels, “Thor,” “The First Avenger: Captain America,” and “The Avengers.”

“We look forward to continuing to work with Marvel and, with today’s announcement, to working with Disney to replicate the incredible success of ‘Iron Man’ on all our future collaborative projects,” Paramount said yesterday in a statement. The studio declined to comment further, spokeswoman Patti Rockenwagner said.



Acquiring Marvel also gives Disney the right to deprive its rivals of access to more than 5,000 Marvel characters that aren’t already in use, said Bob Gersh, partner and co-president of the Gersh Agency, a Los Angeles talent-representation firm.

The Marvel deal marks the second time this year that Disney Chief Executive Robert Iger has muscled in on turf occupied by rivals.
A Disney film based on a Marvel storyline could reach theaters within two to three years, Gersh said yesterday in an interview. Disney isn’t likely to interfere with Marvel’s existing contracts, he said.

“Those deals will run out and then Disney will have them exclusively,” Gersh said. “You look over the last several years starting with Pixar, then the Spielberg deal and now Marvel, these are three very significant deals for Disney.”



Disney will use Marvel characters in its theme parks wherever possible, Iger said in an interview with CNBC yesterday. “Marvel characters have already proven to be strong in terms of theme-park attraction, and we believe there are a lot of opportunities around the world,” he said.

Spider-Man and other Marvel characters may begin to appear alongside Mickey Mouse and Buzz Lightyear by next year in parades at Disneyland in Anaheim, California and the adjacent California Adventure, said Robert Niles, editor of ThemeParkInsider.com, an industry newsletter, in an interview.

The earliest Disney could add a Marvel theme-park attraction in California would be 2013, Niles said.

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Bamf7
Bamf7 - 9/1/2009, 8:28 PM
Sounds good to me! It might be a little rough in the beginning, but I think it's going to be ultimately for the better.
longbowhunter
longbowhunter - 9/1/2009, 8:47 PM
Whatever, I'm ready to move forward.
Robsaggs
Robsaggs - 9/1/2009, 9:25 PM
This seems well informed, hopefully everyone can read this article and then realise that every other article which mentions disney and blames them for something is bull.

Disney like money, Marvel makes money. Ain't broke they won't try to fix it.
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 9/1/2009, 10:47 PM
i'll believe it when i see it.
disney is a monster corporation as of now and i am sure walt disney would be rolling in his grave at some of the decisions the disney execs have been making.
if disney can actually do marvel some justice, okay, fine.
but until then, i am still on the other side of the fence.
CrookedJaw
CrookedJaw - 9/2/2009, 9:39 AM
They can't change things, s far as movies go, they hav e no say in anything until after the Avengers movie, and then what are they going to change? are they going to fire every Marvel writer we all love? Of course not! the only difference is they'll have their name on everything, but none of the characters or stories should change
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/2/2009, 9:46 AM
I hated BITCH MOUNTAIN too lol! ; D

We can all say they wont change or they will change, but end of the day DISNEY is a faceless company full of SUITS!

Think about it! ; )
superdog
superdog - 9/2/2009, 9:49 AM
its funny. i hate fcking disney world here in florida and will never go there. i have year round passes to universal studios and go there all the time, mainly cause of the marvel island with the hulk and spidey rides and numerous comicbook stores. that place is a frigen marvel fans dream. i cant imagine universal is happy about paying fees to disney which is its chief rival right down the road. and i cant imagine disney is happy universal is so busy making money of its newly bought characters. its all very wierd for us florida theme park goers. but if they move the marvel stuff to disney eventually i will never go thier. i hate that frigen place so much.
FateSucks
FateSucks - 9/2/2009, 9:54 AM
Disney owns ABC, Lost is the best show on Television.
Disney owns ESPN, since that purchase ESPN has had a lot more professional sporting events on, and higher profile college sports.
Disney owns Pixar, they are golden.

Who else but Disney could wretch back the X franchise from the hands of the evil and awful Fox parent News Corp.? What about F4 too? Get Spidey back from Sony?

This could make a Spiderman Vs Wolverine happen!
This will allow Disney to generate more printed comics of their characters, from Pirates to Mickey, for all age groups. Wolvie might not be acceptable for a 5 year old just learning to read, and getting his first taste of comics, but Mickey and Donald are. This could ramp up the print end of the industry as well by creating more comic book readers at younger ages to start.
This will help the bigger Marvel films, which in turn will help the smaller films as well, Disney Studios are no slouches when it comes to marketing, if you haven't noticed.

This isn't a good thing, it's a great thing.
harrisonefreeman
harrisonefreeman - 9/2/2009, 9:55 AM
Marvel is kind of the 'Disney' of the comic book world. I suppose it kinda makes sense. I'm gonna go buy stock.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/2/2009, 10:20 AM
Superdog, you live in FL? You luckydog. My sister lives there. My wife and I want to move there.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/2/2009, 10:38 AM
Are there any film business/ entertainment lawyers around?

What I want to know is, what happens to a movie when a distribution contract is signed but, the studio decides no to make the movie? does that ever happen?

I am not naysaying here. But just think about it. Would it be cheaper for Disney to legally wrangle it's way out of a Distribution deal than to make an expensive picture that they believe won't sell tickets?
Makiveli21
Makiveli21 - 9/2/2009, 10:48 AM
how can anyone hate disney world? i agree that universal is better because of marvel superhero island, and seaworld has that new rollercoaster that goes underwater through the aquarium. and theres hot blonde chicks runnin around the beaches in thong bikinis. LIVIN IN FLORIDA IS AWESOME! (except all the hurricanes)




MatchesMalone
MatchesMalone - 9/2/2009, 11:01 AM
Disney is an evil corporation. All I know is that if the Punisher blows away some street scum and hearts and rainbows come pouring out instead of blood and guts, I'm gonna be super-pissed!
AvengingAngel1022
AvengingAngel1022 - 9/2/2009, 11:38 AM
it would be cool seeing spiderman and others in disney world but we'll see:[
MIDAS
MIDAS - 9/2/2009, 11:41 AM
As long as Disney doesn't take the grit out of the superhero movies, I think they can still be great, because Disney will put big money into them to get big money back.

If they try to soften up the material, then this deal sucks.
CaptainDeadpool
CaptainDeadpool - 9/2/2009, 11:43 AM
truely a sad day for comic fans across the globe...[frick]!!!!!!!!
superdog
superdog - 9/2/2009, 11:45 AM
makiveli@ disney world sucks. all it has is a bunch of people who are rude, its always crowded, kids are always fckin screaming, is twice as expensive as other parks, a stuffed animal is like 50 bucks and a hot dog is like 20 bucks. its too commercial and in your face. when i lived in orlando it was disney in your face everywhere you go. the rides are a gaziliion years old and suck. i wont even go thier with my daughter. she'll just have to deal with it. although we have passes for seaworld and she likes that better. no lines, the stuff is much cheaper and its a better crowd.
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 9/2/2009, 11:53 AM
it'll be nice once they reaquire all of those characters. as long as disney keeps out of the creative side i'm happy. i can't help but think everything marvel is going to turn into f*cking sesame street though...
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 9/2/2009, 11:59 AM
Right now I can't see what the fuss is about. I really can't see Disney changing Marvels current plans. Marvel have spoken openly about their movie plans for the next 5yrs and Disney will have looked closely at that. The tone has been set for these movies already and the success of Iron-Man alone gives Disney no reason to interfere. Pirates of the Caribbean 2&3 are much darker than any Marvel film so worrying about the grit getting sucked out is a needless exercise.

So I think Disney will let Marvel follow through with their plans. Marvel now have more money to do this with and if things go well we could even see Disney making a play for Marvels lost characters with X-Men and Spiderman coming back.

In short, this looks like it can only be a good thing and people need to open their eyes to it.
Unmasked
Unmasked - 9/2/2009, 12:44 PM
MONEY HUNGRY!!!!!!








You've been UNMASKED! Disney!!!!!
DeadWebHead
DeadWebHead - 9/2/2009, 1:22 PM
You have to wonder what this is going to mean for Marvel Superhero Island. They have costumed versions of the heroes running around all the time, it's part of their contract. So what then, are they going to have costumes running around both parks?
WalterJosephKovaks
WalterJosephKovaks - 9/2/2009, 4:03 PM
All this means is they are buying 5000 characters to sit them on a shelf except for a few select money-makers. So that way, other studios can't option the character and ruin the box office take for any movies that Disney has in the theaters. Basically if you have some off brand character such as deadpool that you really want to see get made (that any studio could pick up and make); it ain't gonna happen. Disney just created a comic book movie monopoly.
superdog
superdog - 9/2/2009, 5:24 PM
Exactly. They will not license anything and keep them all under Disney. They simply won't have the time or the money to develop multiple movies. That's the problem with dc. Warners only makes what it wants so u get a few top characters every three years or so and that's it
DarthLogan
DarthLogan - 9/2/2009, 11:25 PM
yeh, that's it .. Disney's just gonna let Deadpool collect dust while WB puts out new Batman & Superman movies .. are you guys even hearing yourselves?!

what?! DISNEY "won't have the time or money to develop multiple movies"?! wow, this message board can be quite the comedy act!

did you guys ever stop to think that Pixar and Marvel Studios could potentially come out with movies on the same DAY & not even be in competition with one-another's age demographic?

this move may make it possible to have Wolverine, Hulk & Spidey in the same movie .. but i guess you guys are gonna tell me that Dreamworks, Beuna Vista, Miramax, Pixar, Touchstone, Marvel Studios, etc couldn't make that happen!?

dang, i love venting.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 9/3/2009, 12:43 AM
DarthLogan, Long time no see bro. Trust me, some of us have tried stressing exactly what your saying, but with some of these retards it's like pissing in the wind. Check some of the other articles about this above.
48and2
48and2 - 9/3/2009, 11:16 AM
@DarthLogan, and Myth - I think you guys are on the money (pun intended). The only concern I think most of us have, and is reasonable, is that before there existed the potential to have a more realistic Wolverine (claws cutting other things that fireescapes like flesh), and Deadpool (him shooting old ladies and laughing about it), etc. etc. I don't think that will ever happen under the cloud of Disney. Personally, I don't care that much. With the way the last two Punisher movies turned out, maybe we'll all be better off for it hehe.

But in this economy, and with them nearly overextended already. As some of you have pointed out, one major bomb could have left them insolvent. So for better or for worse it was necessary. Hopefully for better.
DarthLogan
DarthLogan - 9/7/2009, 4:07 PM
glad t' see some people on here still have their heads screwed on str8 .. i always knew u were an intelligent guy, Myth!

@ 48and2: haha, good call on the Punisher! anyway, i think alotta people would surprised at how much hard-core R rated stuff Disney actually puts out!

also remember that Deadpool & Wolvie still technically belong t' Fox!

@ Myth (again): good t'hear from U2!
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