Is Marvel Killing The Comic Book Movie Genre?

Is Marvel Killing The Comic Book Movie Genre?

Is Marvel over-saturating the market with too many movies? Is this making movie-goers tired of CBMs?

Editorial Opinion
By BAMUNNZ - Jan 15, 2011 04:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Other

For the past 10 years, Marvel has been putting out CBM after CBM after CBM. Most of these movies have been less than stellar. In fact, most have been quite forgettable. In 2007 alone, Marvel released THREE mediocre and forgettable CBMs: Ghost Rider, Spider-Man 3, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. It seemed that people had had enough of getting so many CBMs shoved down their throats. And then Iron Man and The Dark Knight took everyone by surprise. They changed the entire genre forever. But this past year, it seemed that people again had gotten bored of CBMs. Kick-Ass barely managed to make a profit, Iron Man 2 couldn't even make as much as the first movie, and Scott Pilgrim bombed horribly even though it was one of the most acclaimed movies of the year. Maybe movie-goers have had enough? Just look at Marvel's movie schedule: This year alone we're getting Thor, X-Men First Class, and Captain America, next year we're getting a Spider-Man reboot, a Ghost Rider sequel, and a Wolverine movie that no one asked for, and to top it all off, an Avengers movie. Not to mention plans to reboot Fantastic Four, Iron Man 3, a Hulk movie with yet another actor playing Banner, and Ant-Man. Believe or not, people might get sick of having so many CBMs shoved down their throats.

Meanwhile, DC have barely released any movies this past decade. But maybe that's part of a bigger plan? Maybe they're waiting for Marvel to run out of characters so they can have the entire market left for themselves? Maybe they want to wait and see how the Avengers does and make a Justice League movie that will pulverize it? Now that the Harry Potter franchise is coming to an end, there's no telling what the future awaits WB/DC.

One thing's for sure, people lately have been craving for originality. Look at Avatar. Yes, it was a rehash of the same story we've heard before a thousand times. But it looked different. People saw it and said "I've never seen anything like this before. The movie went on to gross more than $2 billion at the box office. Look at last year. Movies like The Social Network, Black Swan, Inception, The Town, and The Fighter were the biggest money makers because they offered movie-goers something new. Something they've never seen before.

In conclusion, maybe Marvel should take a chill pill and relax. They have an eternity to make movies. They don't need to shove 4 movies a year down our throats. They should focus on one, maybe two movies a year at most and make sure they're actually quality movies. It seems that Marvel only care about quantity and profits rather than quality. Besides, I think it's safe to assume that if your movie doesn't have Batman on it, it most likely won't gross over a billion dollars.

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Exiles
Exiles - 1/15/2011, 4:42 AM
Not really if the movies are good then there's nothing wrong with it at all, marvel studio's are releasing two the rest is fox, if marvel had control over them there wouldn't be this many movies being pumped out so instead of attacking marvel you should attack the studio's you honestly think DC have control over there shit not really, WB are looking for a replacement for there harry potter franchise so soon DC will flood the scene too. The only movies marvel are making a profit from is the one's under the studios, the rest are owned by other studios. So you should ask the major studios to take a chill pill.
Exiles
Exiles - 1/15/2011, 4:49 AM
iron man 2 made more then the first one, kick ass was independantly made it might have not been a block buster but people that saw it enjoyed it. same thing with scott pilgrim (which as far as I know has nothing to do with marvel) they didn't appeal to the mass audience hence the reason why they didn't do as good simple. how any of those two have anything to do with marvel I have no idea. so your title should be are Bad CBM's killing the genre, oh and you forgot Jonah Hex another stinker, and Catwoman, DC/WB are no saints they might not flood the market but not all the properties have been gold.

Anyways hopefully both the companies go on to make some more good movies in the future.
havoc9987
havoc9987 - 1/15/2011, 4:58 AM
Fox and Sony are the ones to blame for medicore Marvel movies Marvel Studios haven't made any bad ones yet. The Spider-Man movies have been good well maybe not Spider-Man 3 but Sony hasn't really stuffed up that badly even Ghost Rider wasn't that bad not great but it was ok. Fox is just throwing movies out there to just keep the rights to their characters and not really caring if the movies are any good just as long as they make money and keep Marvel Studios from getting them back. To be honest Marvel is really the one brand that is keeping the CBM genre alive right now because WB/DC is not doing much apart from Batman movies yeah I know that they have Green Lantern coming and a Superman reboot but not much else. Hopefully DC can really get into high gear and start bringing more than just Batman and Superman they have the rights to all their characters they should use that advantage that Marvel does not have right now.
SmokinIndo
SmokinIndo - 1/15/2011, 5:09 AM
Actually, Iron Man 2 made over 600 million worldwide while Iron Man made just over 500 million worldwide. So your assumption that IM2 barely made what the first one did is incorrect. Kick-Ass was rated R and was filled with gratuitous violence, so the parents weren't going to be buying 3-4 extra tickets for the kiddies. And Scott Pilgrim's failure had nothing to do with the CBM genre since nobody knew that it was a CBM.

Marvel is oversaturating the CBM market in the same way that studios are oversaturating the action movie market... or the horror movie market... or the romantic-comedy movie market. In other words... not at all. Alien invasion flicks have been around since the 50s and they continue to have people pouring into theaters.

People will continue to go see these movies as long as they remain good quality and prove to be fun entertainment. It has nothing to do with the genre.

If Marvel wants to make tons of movies while DC just sits back and does nothing, then more power to Marvel. Marvel will NEVER run out of ideas or characters for movies.
Even the characters that they don't have the rights to can still be brought to life via animation. And I'm not talking about straight-to-dvd animated movies. I'm talking about theatrical releases like computer generated animated movies or classic Disney animated movies.

DC fans had better hope that they aren't just sitting back and doing nothing waiting for Marvel to get drained dry. Because that won't be for the next 50 years. By then, I wonder if anyone will remember the name Batman or Superman.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/15/2011, 6:28 AM
marvel ain't killing the genre,personally they're trying give us what we want to see.

granted the stuff coming from fox & sony isn't that good,but marvel studio's & disney are delivering the goods.

marvel isn't scared to try something new unlike dc,look at all the characters marvel have done compared to dc.

-the avengers
-thor
-captain america
-iron man
-hulk
-blade
-ghost rider
-daredevil
-elektra
-fantastic four
-x-men
-spider-man
-man-thing
-punisher

-batman
-superman
-green lantern
-catwoman
-steel
-jonah hex

i admit some of them films ain't good,but you will find fans of them,some of marvels biggest selling comics have made it to the big screen unlike dc who have three.
thunderforce
thunderforce - 1/15/2011, 6:28 AM
Marvel has made only 3 movies so far but I hope they saturate the market with movies from the marvel comic universe because I will see every one of them and I will but every 3d blu ray of them also . I am not a young kid anymore so i don't buy comics anymore so the MCU movies are my comics now , all continued and all in the same world just like the comics . As for other studios and dc I will see them but only if they are good , if the reviews are bad I won't . I am getting a bit tired of 2,3,or 4 movies then the inevitable reboot to start all over again . I love what Marvel is doing with the MCU it is new , fresh and interesting and I am going to reward them for doing it , so in my eyes please marvel let the saturation begin .
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 1/15/2011, 6:41 AM
This might have been true before the release of Iron Man when we were seeing a lot of mediocre super hero movies. Since then, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, and Thor, have all been at least decent. With Thor and Cap, they're doing stories that are very different from what has been seen before, so if they're good enough people will still be interested. I would say that these last few MArvel movies along with Nolan's Batman movies have revitalized CBMs.
havoc9987
havoc9987 - 1/15/2011, 7:48 AM
BIGBMH - Damn true only Marvel Studios movies and Nolan Batman movies have been anything to talk about in the last couple of years which is a shame considering Sony and Fox has some of the best characters. I just don't understand FOX they have the X-MEN and can't understand that making X-MEN that are true to the source material is what X-MEN fans want and general movie goers want to see and enjoy. Unfortuntely idiots like Tom Rothman think that the ideas they come up with are better than what the creators gave us are better.
80sFace
80sFace - 1/15/2011, 8:36 AM
Well reasoned and written editorial, but I think most of us fans want more movies. Obviously, we want good movies, so I agree that the focus needs to be on quality. Making a good film is hard though. Marvel had the best intentions with Iron Man 2, and by and large fell short - it had its moments, but wasn't what we expected after the awesomeness of the first.

That said, the problem with movies like FF, Ghost Rider, Spidey 3 is that Fox and Sony don't get it and they never will. We want 4 films a year, we just want Marvel in the driver's seat.
JackBauer
JackBauer - 1/15/2011, 8:43 AM
Gladiator - I know the point you're trying to make is that there may be too many movies based on Marvel characters out there, but you need to make the distinction between the movies made by Marvel Studios and those made by other studios such as Fox. Someone new to comics and this site might not know that yet.

That being said CBMs have become their own genre just like romance, comedy and action movies. Some will be big hits and some will be flops. It all depends on what other movies are playing at the same time as well as if the movie is actually any damn good.

everyone else - Iron Man 2 may have made more worldwide but here in the US it did in fact make less money than the first Iron Man.
Rorschach12311
Rorschach12311 - 1/15/2011, 8:44 AM
single word - NO *and a couple of exclamation marks*!!
DoodPool
DoodPool - 1/15/2011, 8:49 AM
i thought about it for a second. then i said no. I see what your getting at but ultimately i think it's a popular genre now and if the movies are good they will stand on there own. Marvel doesn't have control of half its big properties anyway so they have no say. If they had x men/spiderman back they probably wouldn't be so focused on the avengers and movies it takes to properly put the avengers in context.
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 1/15/2011, 8:56 AM
Another idiot with no research. Marvel has done 3 films, is that over-doing it?

Blade 1,2,3 = New Line Cinema
X-Men 1,2,3 = Fox
Spider-Man 1,2,3 = Sony
Daredevil = Fox
Elektra = Fox
Hulk = Universal
The Incredible Hulk = MARVEL
Punisher = Lionsgate
Punisher War Zone = Lionsgate
Fantastic Four 1,2 = Fox
Ghost Rider = Sony
Iron Man 1,2 = MARVEL
Wolverine = Fox
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 1/15/2011, 9:08 AM
@ar8888928918, i was gonna ask you how you came to that conclusion, but then i saw your avatar lol dumbass.
Kootman77
Kootman77 - 1/15/2011, 9:09 AM
I'm not complaining
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/15/2011, 9:12 AM
@ ar8898

just like smallville killed everything good about superman.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 1/15/2011, 9:19 AM
To be fair, Marvel have only put out three movies with two more coming out. That's not a lot.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 1/15/2011, 9:19 AM
the DC route is the way to go,
quality not quanity,
slow and steady wins the race,
more haste less speed,

that way we can get more movies like the excellent jonah hex...
CBMDeadpool
CBMDeadpool - 1/15/2011, 9:20 AM
I personally don't have that many problems with Ghost Rider. For what it is
It's a fun movie. Here's and idea. Instead of trying to adapt a specific storyline, why not do what Nolans Batman Universe has done and take the characters stay faithful to them and make your own damn story?
MAXQ1961
MAXQ1961 - 1/15/2011, 9:23 AM
straight forward and to the point "Captain America." Will Disney ante up and get the characters back from the other studios ? That is the crux of the quality problem and staying truer to the comic cannon .
SKGannbit
SKGannbit - 1/15/2011, 9:26 AM
FOX is killing the genre if anyone. they have to keep pushing these crap movies out or they'll lose them. marvel has released nothing but quality movies.
ddwannabe
ddwannabe - 1/15/2011, 9:32 AM
What really amazes me is all of us bloggers have paid good money to keep company's like Fox making mediocre films. And then we sit down and write complaints just long enough to go out pay to watch more. Remember reality's a bitch and heard that she bites!!
spiderman620
spiderman620 - 1/15/2011, 10:10 AM
Pretty much everyone is saying what I would say. Marvel is only putting out 1-2 movies a year...and so far they've been pretty dam good flicks. The crappy movies in witch you speak of are being made by outside studios fox and sony, and they've been shitty because they take crestive liberties with the characters to make the film they want regardless of what the fans want. DC has allways been basicly supes and the bat and only recently started pumping out other characters like green lantern. I find your therory to be poor and lacking in CORRECT or substantual evidence...in other words EPIC FAIL!!!
JackJNapier
JackJNapier - 1/15/2011, 10:13 AM
I agree with Spiderman620
IronicMan
IronicMan - 1/15/2011, 10:17 AM
Yes, yes they are.
Frecks
Frecks - 1/15/2011, 3:45 PM
There was Plains to Reboot Iron man? I first i've heard

This is just Stupid, Marvel is Making the CBM Genre instead of killing it, how do you want CBM's to be made? with the same 2 characters for the last 20 years but then add one more to shut people up?

so i guess you need to apologize to marvel fans, Instantly

spiderman620
spiderman620 - 1/15/2011, 3:52 PM
@ddwannabe-that why i dont go see Marvel character movies made by fox or sony bc i know there gonna suck

@jackj-thank you bro
spoonman100
spoonman100 - 1/15/2011, 3:53 PM
Yes I agree .....Marvel is drowning the market with shit CMBs...You can't blame Sony and Fox solely and say that Marvel only made two movies. Last time I cheked its their logo plastered all over them....Like it or not Marvel Fanboys.......You're precious Marvel was whoring out all their characters to the highest bidders.
spiderman620
spiderman620 - 1/15/2011, 3:55 PM
@freckles-amen brother i think we deserve an apology at the very least
spiderman620
spiderman620 - 1/15/2011, 3:57 PM
@spoonman-the only reason Marvels logo is on the movies made by fox and sony is because MARVEL OWNS THE [frick]ING CHARACTER RIGHTS!!!! you moron sony and fox own just the movie rights witch allows them to do whatever they want with the character in live action film
ArkAngel
ArkAngel - 1/15/2011, 4:00 PM
This is a complicated issue. And yes, like everybody else, I agree that you need to make a distinction between movies produce by Marvel and movies by other companies. With that being say and now speaking in general about comic book movies, yes, I do believe the market has been over saturated. But that's only because other companies (not Marvel) are making crap movies. I personally do not want another X-Men movie! They should've just stuck with the first 3 movies. I also don't want another f-ing crap Ghost Rider movie! Nic Cage sucks. I don't want a Fantastic Four reboot, Daredevil reboot, or SPIDERMAN REBOOT! (But it looks like that's happening...couldn't they have waited 5 years to restart the franchise?!)

Anyway, maybe it's because I know which movies are comic book movies so I think that it's over saturated. Movies like Bruce Willis' Red was a CBM. Other people may not think the movie market is saturated with CBM because they may not know the movies are based on comic books.

I've always been a DC guy myself (a foil to my twin brother who is a Marvel guy). And while I look forward to DC's movies the most (Batman 3, Green Lantern), I'm also eagerly awaiting Marvel's movies as well (Thor, Captain America, Avengers).

Here's to better CBMs!
spiderman620
spiderman620 - 1/15/2011, 4:03 PM
basicly what im sayin is the reason its there is because its a marvel character
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/15/2011, 4:09 PM
dc fans are pissed that they just got batman,superman & green lantern.

none of there team books have it made to the big screen yet,maybe warner thinks they suck ass. :D

@ ar8898

touch nerve did we about smallville,look if your easily pleased with terrible acting,writing,rapeing of classic characters & so on.

then so be it,but marvel have got shows in the works one involving the hulk if the rumors are true.

@ freckles

well said,mate.

marvel72
marvel72 - 1/15/2011, 4:34 PM
@ ar8898

some of it does,but you already know that. XD
superpooper
superpooper - 1/15/2011, 4:39 PM
Wow. Do they just let anyone post editorials on this sight? I wont even dignify this one with a comment. Oh and @ar8898...you're a moron. 'Nuff said.
superpooper
superpooper - 1/15/2011, 4:51 PM
@ar8898 Oh that's nice! Good boy! Now crawl back in your cage before you make a mess! (who left this guy's cell unlocked?)
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 1/15/2011, 4:54 PM
Lol funny that you changed your avatar huh ar890210?
superpooper
superpooper - 1/15/2011, 5:07 PM
@ar8898 You sir are clearly cognitively impaired. I'm amazed you're able to pry your fist away from your weener long enough to type anything at all
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