SPIDER-MAN 4: Scorpion's Revenge? 5 Reasons Mac Gargan Would Be The Perfect Villain In Spidey's Next Movie

SPIDER-MAN 4: Scorpion's Revenge? 5 Reasons Mac Gargan Would Be The Perfect Villain In Spidey's Next Movie

With rumours swirling that Mac Gargan will return in Spider-Man 4, we're taking a look at the most compelling reasons why Scorpion would be the best possible choice of villain in the upcoming movie...

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By JoshWilding - Sep 15, 2023 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Before writers and actors went on strike, Spider-Man 4 was beginning to take shape at Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures. Now, it will slip even further down the release calendar, though we're confident it will be worth the wait. 

Recently, a rumour started doing the rounds claiming Michael Mando's Mac Gargan will return in the movie. It's previously been reported that the next movie is going to revolve around The Kingpin, but we actually think a better option is to pit Tom Holland's Peter Parker against this underrated baddie. 

In this feature, we break down all the reasons why Scorpion would be a great choice of big bad for Spider-Man 4, including what his return could mean for the franchise's future. After all, "Scorpion" isn't the only mantle Mac has held (the other is positively venomous...).

You can take a look through our thoughts by clicking on the "Next" button below. 
 

5. It Will Also Put JJJ Front And Centre 

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Spider-Man: No Way Home made it clear that the MCU's J. Jonah Jameson hates the web-slinger but, like the rest of the world, he no longer remembers who's beneath the mask. As his vendetta continues, it makes sense for JJJ to hire a private investigator to try and deduce who New York City's "menace" is. 

That P.I.? Mac Gargan. A minor retcon would need to be made as Spider-Man: Homecoming's version of the character was a crook (who was meant to be a corrupt cop). That should be easy enough and, once Mac fails, Jonah can introduce him to Dr. Farley Stillwell in an effort to create a "hero" capable of taking down Spider-Man. 

The Scorpion will be born, J.K. Simmons will get a lead role as TheDailyBugle.net's cantankerous figurehead, and we'll get a story that will feel like a breath of fresh air for the web-slinger's MCU-based adventures. 
 

4. A True Challenge For Peter Parker

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We've seen the MCU's Spider-Man face many formidable foes, including The Vulture, Mysterio, and the Green Goblin. Even so, Scorpion can push Peter to his limits, particularly if Marvel Studios leans into the dominance scorpions have over spiders in the wild.

Stronger than Spidey and boasting his own danger sense, his powerful armour makes Mac a major threat to the hero, something the comics have failed to effectively portray in recent years due to Scorpion's B-List status. 

We'd actually love to see Spider-Man 4 follow the Spider-Man video game's example by having the villain poison the web-slinger. With that, Peter could suffer from all manner of hallucinations, with the final act showing Scorpion "transforming" into a monster for a horror-inspired battle. 
 

3. He's One Of Spider-Man's Most Underrated Foes

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Despite being one of Spider-Man's original villains (created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko), Scorpion rarely gets the same level of respect as characters like Doctor Octopus and Green Goblin. In fact, he's become a secondary baddie often easily dispatched by the wall-crawler.

That changed in Mark Millar and Terry Dodson's Marvel Knights Spider-Man when Mac learned of Spidey's secret identity (courtesy of Norman Osborn). With that, he enacted a plan which saw him stage Aunt May's death and assemble a Sinister Twelve to take Peter down once and for all. 

Marvel Studios can put a spin on Mac that makes him a major threat to Peter and perhaps even his most formidable foe to date. There would be no world-ending stakes here; instead, we'd get a classic Spidey yarn! 
 

2. A Venomous Future

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At the end of Spider-Man: No Way Home, Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock was sent back to his own reality but he left a piece of the Venom Symbiote behind. Will Marvel Studios pick up on that dangling plot thread? We certainly hope so. 

However, rather than head down the expected route of introducing Earth-616's Eddie, we'd like to see Mac eventually get his hands on the alien suit. With that, a sinister new Venom could be introduced and, just like in the comics, this Venom would be an absolute beast of a character. 

When the comic book version of this villain gained the Symbiote, he transformed into a hulking monster who ate people's brains (and limbs) and, later, he even became an amalgamation of both Venom and Scorpion. 
 

1. Michael Mando Gets His Chance To Shine

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Michael Mando's role in Spider-Man: Homecoming was little more than a cameo, and when we last saw him, he was in prison - after being badly injured courtesy of Spidey's intervention - and eager for The Vulture to tell him who's beneath the mask. 

Even if he found out, the villain would have forgotten, but that interest can easily be exploited by Jonah. It feels like a logical next step for this franchise and, more importantly, a chance for Mando to shine. If you've seen his work in Better Call Saul then you'll know he's an absolute powerhouse of a talent. 

Despite not being a big-name star, we're confident he can do Scorpion justice, putting himself and the character on the map in the process. We just hope Marvel Studios makes this a reality. 
 

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MrDandy
MrDandy - 9/15/2023, 12:08 PM

I wouldn’t mind Scorpion as a villain, but the main baddie should be Kingpin and it should include a team up with Daredevil. We’ve been begging for it since 2015
mountainman
mountainman - 9/15/2023, 1:52 PM
@MrDandy - Yeah why couldn’t Scorpion be the muscle B villain with Kingpin be the villain pulling the strings?
MrDandy
MrDandy - 9/15/2023, 5:34 PM
@mountainman - I think that would actually work great
ThorArms
ThorArms - 9/15/2023, 12:12 PM
I'm not so sure they would want him to be the headliner though. He's always been a B villain.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/15/2023, 12:32 PM
@ThorArms - so was the spot. With the right story and writing, I think they can pull it off
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2023, 1:39 PM
@ThorArms - author addresses that point
ThorArms
ThorArms - 9/15/2023, 7:25 PM
@Vigor - Aunt May is already dead...and Norman doesn't exist in this universe yet. I'm not sure how they'd make him more than what he is. This is Sony we're talking about - after No Way Home I'm certain they won't go smaller scale
Repian
Repian - 9/15/2023, 7:57 PM
@ThorArms - Mister Negative leading Scorpion, Shocker and the sandman. Public opinion sees philanthropist Martin Li giving a second chance to ex-cons like Gargan, Herman Schultz and Flint Marko while Spider-Man sees a quartet of villains.
Songoty
Songoty - 9/15/2023, 12:20 PM
Come on. We all know that, even if he's in the movie, he won't be the main villain.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/15/2023, 12:27 PM
Scorpion should be Spiderman's #1 arch rival. I have never understood how Green Goblin became that when to me he is weaker than Spiderman (and yes I know... he killed so and so...but that is a narrative decision). Scorpion represents a foe that could offer Spiderman a villain that is as fast, strong and has specific "weapons" that counter Spiderman's. These are the kinds of match up's I prefer to see.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/15/2023, 12:35 PM
The setup they gave him in homecoming was very one dimensional. Looking forward to a better backstory for this guy.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/15/2023, 12:37 PM
I love Scorpion, and have since the 90s cartoons. I hope, that Kingpin hires mac to take out spiderman, but realizes he needs an upgrade so Kingpin finds the tinker, makes mac a Scorpion suit using some tech and that is how they fight. He's too strong for Peter in suit, and in the end DD teams up with him to take out Scorpion, while also looking to take Kingpin out, setting the stage for Spiderman5.... i know that won't happen but something along those lines would be pretty badass
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/15/2023, 12:47 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - I also think the tease that Scorpion was going after spidey’s true identity needs to be honored and play a significant role in scorpions motives.

Even with Peter having lost everything in no way home, it would be some great character development if Scorpion finds a way to cause more damage to this guys life despite nobody seeming to know him anymore.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/15/2023, 2:38 PM
@JFerguson - id be down with that... i think it would build character for both of them if that was one of his motives. lets see how far down the toilet peter's life can go before he pulls himself out
dracula
dracula - 9/15/2023, 12:44 PM
Bet Spiderman 4 will be something like

Spiderman No Place Like Home

doubt they will be leaving out MJ and Ned
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2023, 1:55 PM
@dracula - black cat is the perfect way for him to get over MJ. but i agree there's no way they aren't involved in the movie
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/15/2023, 5:47 PM
@dracula - kinda hope they drop the whole "home" thing. Rather see them get a new buzzword, or just come up with titles that's more telling of what we can expect
ThorArms
ThorArms - 9/15/2023, 7:27 PM
@dracula - I think they're dropping the home moniker
Order66
Order66 - 9/15/2023, 12:58 PM
Keep Spider-Man 4 street level. Scorpion, Kingpin, Maggia, Hammerhead, Tombstone, and Daredevil. Miles and his family are Peters neighbors.
Origame
Origame - 9/15/2023, 1:00 PM
Ok, no to him being venom. We never had a live action scorpion. Keep him in that role.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/15/2023, 1:15 PM
Whoever the go with for the villain, the story needs to be incredibly personal. After No Way Home, you need to dial back the spectacle but up the personal stakes.

Scorpion definitely has a personal tie to Peter via the events in Homecoming, so he'd be a great choice. But if the rumors are true about Daredevil, maybe Kingpin is the way to go with Scorpion as the hired gun.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2023, 1:29 PM
@SheepishOne - I hear you. I hear you
But nothing is more personal than Aunt May dying
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/15/2023, 3:33 PM
@Vigor - Maybe following the events of NWH, Peter meets MCU Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborn, which would give Peter this sort of dramatic irony where he knows what Norman could become and what fate could await Gwen. So he tries to use his anonymity to sabotage Oscorp or Norman directly to try and prevent him from developing the goblin formula. MCU Norman is not like Raimi-verse Norman. This Norman is trying to put Harry through college and trying to pay back a large amount of debt he's accrued in developing Oscorp. He's not a bad guy. But Spider-Man pushes him into reaching out to his lender, Wilson Fisk, citing Spidey as the reason he is unable to deliver on the super soldier formula he's developing (Kingpin is interested in taking it himself). Kingpin hires Mac Gargan to bring Spidey in. All of this allows Spidey to cross paths with Daredevil, who is back trying to put Kingpin away again. Ultimately, Kingpin sees Spidey's sabotage as a sign that Norman is on to something with his research, so he redirects a ton of money into Oscorp.

The point being, maybe the stakes aren't so much that someone is going to die this time. But the stakes are preventing the Goblin from being born. The irony being Norman and Oscorp might not have become anything at all if Peter had just left him alone.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2023, 4:04 PM
@SheepishOne - I like your idea
Here's another one. What if Norman Osborn is not like Norman from Toby's universe, as you say. He's a good guy. And Tom Holland Peter tried to sabotage Norman, as you say

But due to Peter meddling with things, Norman does take on a different route and begins investing in armors (ahem Armor Wars) and eventually becomes the Iron Patriot at the end of the line. Matching his Ultimates Universe counterpart
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/15/2023, 5:06 PM
@Vigor - Ohhh yea that would be interesting.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/15/2023, 5:44 PM
@SheepishOne - that Peter knowing what certain characters are and who they can become, is a great angle.

It could work with Norman like that, but the opposite with Octavius. Peter trusts Ock as he thinks Ock isn't inherently evil, but it would be quite personal if that blindness turns into a massiv betrayal on Ock's part
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/15/2023, 5:45 PM
@Vigor - Norman turning into Iron Patriot instead of Green Goblin would be refreshing to see. We already saw Norman as Goblin twice now.

Same with Eddie as Venom's host. Rather see a new host, as we've seen the Eddie/Venom dynamic twice already as well.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/15/2023, 5:57 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I just love the idea of Peter stepping in to try and prevent a villain's origin only to realize his intervention is what turns them. Kind of an interesting twist on the destiny fulfilled angle.

That's an interesting idea with Ock, though. Peter being more concerned with someone like Norman, but feeling safe with Octavius only to get blindsided with a Doc Ock far more maniacle than the MCU Norman.

There are lots of interesting ways to play a sequel off of the lore established in NWH. I also like the idea of Peter constantly running into Gwen Stacy, only to keep trying to duck her bc he knows she has the potential to die in his arms from Peter 3's story. Maybe that's how MCU Gwen figured out he's Spider-Man. He creates such an intrigue that she can't help but to look more into his weird behavior.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/15/2023, 6:11 PM
@SheepishOne - I still haven't seen Secret Invasion, but I hope that gets followed up with Dark Reign like in the comics. Perfect way to introduce Norman as a villain, a path he might have taking because of Peter's intervention.

As for Gwen, that would be a great way to bring in a female foil for Peter. I kinda wanna see Black Cat as well. But that's more a Spider-Man foil than a Peter foil.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2023, 7:31 PM
@bkmeijer1 - exactly how I feel
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/15/2023, 8:00 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I honestly haven't seen Secret Invasion either.

But I absolutely agree with your point about Gwen. That's one of the aspects of the Amazing Spider-Man movies that I thought worked incredibly well was her dynamic with Peter.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/16/2023, 4:55 AM
@SheepishOne - yeah, the Gwen-Peter dynamic is probably the best out of all the movies.

MJ in the Raimi trilogy wasn't really a foil to Peter or Spider-Man, nor was the MJ in the Watts trilogy. The best foil to Peter was MJ in the 2018 game and the best Spider-Man foil was Black Cat in it's DLC.

Think it'd be great to have that in the movies with Gwen and Black Cat.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 9/15/2023, 1:16 PM
Kingpin wants to take down the Spider. He hatches the plan to get Mac Gargan in the Scorpion suit, but blackmails Jameson to handle the operation himself, so as to not get any blowback if shit hits the fan. Spidey might need some help, so he asks Daredevil. Kingpin learns that Daredevil is involved and sends Bullseye to stop him.

We get D'Onofrio, Mando and Simmons all in one movie. Make it happen.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2023, 1:28 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - damn would I love this
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/15/2023, 2:40 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - damn, that takes my idea but makes it 10x better lol. I'd love a movie like that
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/15/2023, 5:41 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - I think they should just have Bullseye in Born Again, but aside from that I really like your take. Pretty much what I wanna see as well
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 9/15/2023, 5:48 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I know i'm reaching with Bullseye, I just think it'd be nice to have a Daredevil villain if Daredevil is involved, but it's not necessary. But I stand by everything else I wrote.

Has he been confirmed for Born Again ? I wish Wilson Bethel gets to come back, I loved him in S3.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/15/2023, 5:57 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - with 18 episodes, I'm sure they have some room to spare for Bethel's Bullseye. Atleast I hope so.

As for Spider-Man 4, I wouldn't mind it if Matt shows up in the first act to give advice to Peter on how to take on Scorpion (which would be the second act). The third act could be when Spidey moves on to Kingpin, and needs Daredevil's help (as Kingpin bested him solo earlier in the movie).
Forthas
Forthas - 9/15/2023, 1:27 PM
Scorpion's costume should look something along the lines of this...


Repian
Repian - 9/15/2023, 8:05 PM
@Forthas -
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