SPIDER-MAN 4's Script Could Be In Even Worse Shape Than We've Been Led To Believe

SPIDER-MAN 4's Script Could Be In Even Worse Shape Than We've Been Led To Believe

Following a recent rumor claiming that Spider-Man 4 is undergoing an overhaul, we're now hearing that the script is a long way from being complete...

By MarkCassidy - Dec 26, 2024 07:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

It sounds like Spider-Man 4 might be in worse shape than we realized.

At this point, several scoopers have claimed to have heard from reliable sources that the story still hasn't come together, indicating that the script might be undergoing a major overhaul due to differences of opinion between star Tom Holland and Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige. Now, Daniel Richtman has weighed-in with an update.

According to the insider, the movie "is still a long way from starting production" because "there isn’t a finalized shooting draft yet."

"With sky-high expectations following the success of No Way Home, Feige and Sony felt the pressure to step up their game and deliver something even better. I hear the writing team is hard at work reworking the plot to address these issues and improve the story."

The movie has a release date of July 24, 2026, with filming reportedly scheduled to get underway around August of next year. There's still time to ensure that these deadlines are met, but Richtman believes delays are possible (Holland also has Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey to shoot next year, which could result in scheduling conflicts).

This wouldn't be the first time those involved with bringing the No Way Home follow-up to the screen had disagreements about the project. Previous reports have claimed that Feige and Sony's Tom Rothman clashed, with the former hoping to scale the Multiverse elements back for a smaller adventure. Rothman, meanwhile, is said to have wanted to capitalize on No Way Home's success by bringing Maguire and Garfield back as their respective takes on Peter Parker.

More recently, we heard that both studios had settled on a mostly grounded story with some Multiversal elements, though the movie was still being described as an "Avengers-level event" up until very recently.

Here's what Holland had to say about the fourth solo Spidey movie in a recent interview.

"We have the best in the business working toward whatever the story might be. But until we’ve cracked it, we have a legacy to protect. The third movie was so special in so many ways that we need to make sure we do the right thing."

It seems they are still trying to figure out what "the right thing" is. A number of rumors relating to the story have been doing the rounds, and if all of them are to be believed, we'll be seeing Holland, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's wall-crawlers join forces with Venom, Ghost Rider, Black Cat, Daredevil and The Punisher to face off against Mephisto, Vulture, Knull, and an army of Symbiotes.

Hopefully, those involved with Spidey 4 will come up with ideas that suit everyone and the project won't be hit with any significant setbacks.

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ThorArms
ThorArms - 12/26/2024, 7:01 PM
I'm guessing December 2026 or Summer 2027
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 12/26/2024, 9:45 PM
@ThorArms - just ditch the multiversal shenanigans and give peter a natural progression moving forward. that's what they've promised in no way home that people are waiting for they need to deliver that no way home ending.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/26/2024, 7:05 PM
"undergoing a major overhaul due to differences of opinion between star Tom Holland and Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige"

If this rumor is true, it is funny that they cant move forward because of clashing opinions from non creatives.

Keep making things hilarious Marvel 😂
Matchesz
Matchesz - 12/26/2024, 7:08 PM
@vectorsigma - Holland did his humiliation ritual getting plowed in that one movie so they have to listen to him
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/26/2024, 7:22 PM
@Matchesz - just want to make sure i am getting it (not a native english speaker), but are you referring to cherry?
Matchesz
Matchesz - 12/26/2024, 8:05 PM
@vectorsigma - no lol, look up the sex scene from The Crowded Room
bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/26/2024, 10:58 PM
Shout out to @DrReedRichards for his birthday is on the 27th! I haven't seen you in awhile, maybe I'm blocked haha
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/26/2024, 11:09 PM
@bobevanz - nah he's just been away
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/26/2024, 11:19 PM
@Matchesz - oh i dont know that movie! Will look it up! Lolz
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 12/27/2024, 1:48 AM
@Matchesz - you conspiracy theorists are [frick]ing mental. He played a role in a movie. That's not a humiliation ritual. You tits will beleive any old shit you see in a YT video but will ignore actual evidence and science when it comes to important stuff.
Blergh
Blergh - 12/27/2024, 5:58 AM
@vectorsigma - sounds to me like „Feige wants one type of story while Sony demands a completely different type of movie“.

We know the desire for a streetlevel movie isn’t coming from Sony, they want a multiverse-extravaganza that sees Maguire, Garfield and their SSCU movies pushed into focus.

Marvel wants a street level movie to prepare Spider-Man‘s arc for their purposes in the upcoming Avengers movies.

Both want what benefits them most, those who lose are the fans.

IMO a movie featuring Spider-Man teaming up with various street-level NY based heroes to take down Kingpin is the best way to go. But that would obviously not be as „exciting“ to market and might make less money at the box office for Sony (who take 80% of the BO)
YouIknowiamsexy
YouIknowiamsexy - 12/27/2024, 8:50 AM
@Matchesz - Bruh why do they always make black men gay in all these movies?! When you doubt conspiracy theories but yet when you watch tv and like 90% of the time, it's true you do have to wonder.........
Matchesz
Matchesz - 12/27/2024, 9:16 AM
@BigPhilbowski - its not a conspiracy that everything went crazy after Stan Lee passed away
RealTurner
RealTurner - 12/26/2024, 7:09 PM
Led to believe by what? The 2-3 articles per day spewing random rumors at the wall concerning this movie?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 7:11 PM
If it is true that they don’t start shooting until August of 2025 then they still have time , a lot can happen in 8 months or so so I wouldn’t panic yet if there is indeed issues with the script.

I do hope they realize if they haven’t already that trying to outdo NWH by going bigger atleast isn’t the way to go…

I can understand if they think that by going street level or a similar scale to Homecoming might feel like a step down considering the threats this Peter has faced since then but I disagree with that line of thinking personally.

A smaller scale film can be just as of not moreso compelling then a large scale one , hopefully they haven’t lost sight of that.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 7:38 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Let me get you Feige’s number.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 7:52 PM
@RolandD - thanks for

Can you also tell him to bring back Finn Jones as Danny Rand?.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 8:06 PM
@TheVisionary25 - That got a big belly laugh. I would give him another shot if I could, but I don’t think I have that much pull. I was certainly intrigued by the way they left the end of season 2 with Danny and Ward traveling together. Who knows though? They are bringing back more people from the Netflix shows that I expected. Where is Netto when we need to call him out for his “insider” knowledge of how the MCU could never bring back those versions of the characters?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 8:15 PM
@RolandD - Damn Netto , that brought me back….

I hope so dude though sadly I don’t think they’ll continue off with the adventures of Danny & Ward though I hope the latter is in it aswell.

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RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 8:27 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I would like that too. Season one I couldn’t stand him, although that’s a credit to the actor in the writing and then he really turned things around making for a very interesting character.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 8:31 PM
@RolandD - to be fair , you weren’t suppose to stand him until towards the end where he began to redeem himself but yeah , dude was likable in Season 2

His interactions with Danny were a highlight.

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RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 8:42 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Exactly.
cubrn
cubrn - 12/26/2024, 8:54 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I agree. NWH being the third in the high school trilogy was the big event. Now that this is the first in the presumably college series, it should scale back. Just as everything scaled back after Endgame so that everything could build again.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 8:58 PM
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TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 12/26/2024, 7:11 PM
It's gotta be the multiversal elements that are tearing this film to shreads. Worst case scenario, scrap the film. Wait for the MCU to reboot after secret wars then resume from there.

I really hope that they get it right. We've never had a Spider-Man 4 on ANY platform/franchise. Take as long as you need to. All it does is aid with aging Holland into a more mature Peter Parker
GirshwinDavies
GirshwinDavies - 12/26/2024, 7:19 PM
@TheRationalNerd - Dude. Couldn't of said it better myself
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 12/26/2024, 7:30 PM
@TheRationalNerd - Sony will abduct and hold Feige hostage before they let 3 more years go by without releasing another Spider-Man movie
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 12/26/2024, 7:47 PM
@GirshwinDavies - Haha, gotta find some sort of positive in all of this. lol smh Just sucks that we're back in the same position we were in 10+ years ago.
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 12/26/2024, 7:49 PM
@NonPlayerC - You're incredibly right about that. lol Now, does it have to be a movie or does that also involve television series. Beyond the Spiderverse is considered a film too right?
RolandD
RolandD - 12/26/2024, 8:29 PM
@TheRationalNerd - It’s not just about maintaining their legal right to the character. They’re not gonna leave that much cheddar cheese lying on the ground. The real Spider-Man movies are gold mines unlike the SSU or whatever they call it.
micvalpro
micvalpro - 12/26/2024, 7:12 PM
Won’t be surprised to soon see a post by Holland saying he won’t be back as Spider-Man. His movie with Nolan is going to really make his career take off.
Typhoon20
Typhoon20 - 12/27/2024, 7:51 AM
@micvalpro - He's not good enough of an actor for that to happen. He's on the level of Chris Hemsworth. Maybe slightly better.
TheWinkler
TheWinkler - 12/26/2024, 7:16 PM
NWH perfectly set up a street level Spidey and to immediately follow that with multiverse crap involving Knull or Mephisto, plus Andrew and Tobey or maybe Venom or something, with Daredevil randomly tossed into the mix, sounds like straight, convoluted ass. The audience doesn't need an Avenger sized movie for every popular character.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 12/26/2024, 7:27 PM
Threat to the world…. Go bigger! The end of the galaxy! Go bigger! The universe is gonna explode…. Go bigger!! The collapse of the multiverse!!!! Go bigger dammit!!!

I think they’ve 1 upped themselves into a corner. This is why there are constant reboots in the comics. I know spectacle is what gets the butts in seats but good dialogue and emotional character development is what makes a good movie. I’ve had enough of the multiverse. It was cool for a minute but between endgames time travel (not really muitiverse but I put it in the same category), Loki, multiverse madness, no way home, quantum verse, I’m sure I’m forgetting some, I’m looking for a more grounded setting.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 12/26/2024, 7:51 PM
Leave it to Feige and Sony to possibly deliver a flop Spider-Man movie after NWH. Just give us a street level movie with Daredevil and Kingpin. Why is that so hard?
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 12/26/2024, 7:51 PM
GIVE IT UP GUYS! You know nothing about this movie.
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 12/26/2024, 7:52 PM
Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.
Huskers
Huskers - 12/26/2024, 8:07 PM
The perfect storm. Sony doesn’t know how to make a Spiderman movie, and the last good movie Marvel had a hand in was 2021 when the Spiderman NWH came out!
asherman93
asherman93 - 12/26/2024, 8:19 PM
I'm frankly glad they're taking their time to make the script the best it can (hopefully) be. Last thing we need is another TASM2-style cart before the horse, or a rushed preproduction that gets rid of the main creative heart and soul like Raimi's SM4.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/26/2024, 8:24 PM
@asherman93 - also hopefully it isn’t as overstuffed as TASM 2 or Spider Man 3
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