SPIDER-MAN's Next MCU Trilogy Rumored To Conclude With A Couple Of Very Familiar Villains

SPIDER-MAN's Next MCU Trilogy Rumored To Conclude With A Couple Of Very Familiar Villains

While we're still waiting for some solid Spider-Man 4 news, a new rumour suggests the wall-crawler's next trilogy will conclude with Peter Parker facing two familiar foes. Find more details after the jump!

By JoshWilding - May 28, 2024 11:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

When Marvel Studios teamed with Sony Pictures and agreed to share Spider-Man, the decision was quickly made to focus on villains the web-slinger hadn't faced on screen before.

Spider-Man: Homecoming featured Shocker and The Vulture and even set the stage for Scorpion's eventual debut by introducing Mac Gargan. Spider-Man: Far From Home shifted focus to Mysterio, only for Spider-Man: No Way Home to pit Tom Holland's Peter Parker against the baddies from previous Spider-Man movies. 

The MCU hero battled Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Electro, Sandman, and The Lizard; however, as exciting as that was for fans, it seemingly closed the door on new versions of those baddies appearing on Earth-616. 

Heck, Willem Dafoe's Norman Osborn even confirmed his Variant doesn't exist on that world!

Now, though, scooper Alex Perez claims Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus "will be, if not, the final villains Holland’s Spider-Man faces when his time as Spider-Man comes to an end."

He doesn't clarify whether those would be the Variants played by Dafoe and Alfred Molina or completely new versions of each character; with Avengers: Secret Wars supposedly set to softly reboot the MCU, it would be easy to make subtle changes to Spidey's world. 

Then again, it's possible Norman was lying about not having an Earth-616 doppelganger to stop Peter Parker from searching for him and ensuring he never becomes the Green Goblin. Either way, Spidey clashing with The Goblin and Doc Ock again is an exciting prospect. 

"If everything was right, sure," Dafoe previously said of possibly playing Norman again. "I mean, that's a great role. I liked the fact that it's a double role both times. Twenty years ago, and fairly recently, both times [were] very different experiences, but I had a good time on both."

Alongside Tom Holland, Zendaya is expected to reprise her role as MJ in Spider-Man 4. Sydney Sweeny is rumoured to be playing Black Cat, and we're anticipating Charlie Cox, Vincent D'Onofrio, and Paul Rudd making appearances as Daredevil, The Kingpin, and Ant-Man. 

As for who could direct Spider-Man 4, plenty of names are floating around online. Among them are Justin Lin, Drew Goddard and, most recently, Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah and Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire helmer Adam Wingard.

In terms of plot details, those are few and far between; the latest rumour to have surfaced suggests the plan is to pit Spidey against The Kingpin's goons, including Shocker and The Scorpion. The latter would acquire the Venom symbiote introduced in Spider-Man: No Way Home, only for Peter Parker to eventually don the alien suit. 

Spider-Man 4 doesn't currently have a release date.

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Spoken
Spoken - 5/28/2024, 11:32 AM
HIGHLY DOUBT that plan will go through by movie six. If we even get to that point.
DravenCorvis
DravenCorvis - 5/28/2024, 11:39 AM
@Spoken - This.
Origame
Origame - 5/28/2024, 11:43 AM
@Spoken - especially since Holland is 27 and has said it'd be sad if he's still playing the role at 30. They basically have just this and maybe the avengers movies.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 5/28/2024, 1:20 PM
@Spoken - it’s always funny comparing the rumors before it even kicks off and the actual trilogy years later.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 5/28/2024, 2:33 PM
@Spoken - I think Holland has 2 more trilogies in him. Once spidey 4 finally hits, i feel Sony will continue to get a movie out every 2 years again
Spoken
Spoken - 5/28/2024, 2:56 PM
@JFerguson - To quote Holland

"If I'm playing Spider-Man past 30, I've done something wrong"

I mean people change a lot, but I don't think he's going to continue Spider-Man for so long. If he was so into it, then we wouldn't be waiting so long for the next Spider-Man movie, he wouldn't be pushing for Miles Morales to take the lead and he wouldn't be so wishy washy on whether he wants to do a fourth one.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 5/28/2024, 3:21 PM
@Spoken - True I get the need for actors to try to branch out into other roles to be recognized by. But I think if the story is right and the money talks and his fan base is still there, he'll continue.

I think it's all a negotiating tactic personally. To secure higher pay for future films. Not saying that Holland isn't actually burnt out, but with his other films flopping the MCU money might be his bread and butter.

Hopefully Holland develops more of a Charlie Cox viewpoint. They've both been playing these characters for almost 10 years, and Charlie is dropping quotes like this

“I feel incredibly grateful to still be making the show, and hopefully we’ve got another 10 years in us.”
sully
sully - 5/28/2024, 7:22 PM
@Spoken - They rehash the same lazy finale whenever Spider-Man is rebooted. They eventually plan for 6 films with the Sinister Six being the endgame villain group he has to battle, and every single time the franchises fade out before any of it can come to fruition. It happened with Tobey's franchise, and Andrew's. It seems this new reboot with Tom Holland is following suit. Avi Arad needs to get his head out of his ass about this idea he's been trying to push since 2002 when Tobey's character came out.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/28/2024, 11:41 AM
Am I crazy or does Norman say that Oscorp doesn’t exist in that universe and not that a Variant of him doesn’t?.

Anyway , idk if I would want them as concluding villains to Holland’s presumably last stint as Spider Man but I do think there’s potential there.

You could play on Peter’s preconceived notions of both Norman and Otto where he feels anger and hatred for the former and respect & empathy for the latter but it gets flipped on him where the MCU Otto isn’t sympathetic while this Norman could be…

You could even have had Peter’s actions up until he realizes his mistake lead Norman to become the Goblin thus making it an even more tragic arc for that version.

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Antitrollpatrol
Antitrollpatrol - 5/28/2024, 1:52 PM
@TheVisionary25 - this might be a little out there but I wouldn't mind them replacing Harry with just Norman. Have Norman meet Peter in college then they start up oscorp. Make doc Ock their professor too. It'd be different but something similar to making goblin work with spidey in the new ultimates line.
Origame
Origame - 5/28/2024, 11:42 AM
...what nonsense is this trying to sweep away Norman pointing out there's no oscorp in the mcu? You're saying he lied? To what, keep him from becoming green goblin too?

Did you see the first spiderman movie? Peter and spiderman literally had nothing to do with him becoming green goblin. In fact at that point Norman just knew Peter as Harry's really smart friend. And Peter only just got his powers and wasn't a known superhero yet.

So based on what he knows, Peter knowing is nothing but a net benefit in regards to preventing a green goblin in this universe. At the very least it's irrelevant since it's very likely Peter would try to find the variants of the other villains, which will no doubt have oscorp overlap. At best it's a waste of time.

I swear, you gotta stop treating these scoopers as gospel.
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 5/28/2024, 11:43 AM
That would be a logical conclusion, although I do hope he faves venom at some point.
grouch
grouch - 5/28/2024, 11:44 AM
noone actually cares
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 5/28/2024, 12:39 PM
@grouch - yet here you are clicking the topic and usually crying Josh just trying to get those, lmfao.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/28/2024, 11:47 AM
Norman never said he didn't have a variant. He said "Someone was living in my home, Oscorp doesn't exist here" just because Oscorp didn't exist as a corporation doesn't mean a 616 variant of Norman doesn't exist.
Vigor
Vigor - 5/28/2024, 11:57 AM
@SonOfAGif - ah good catch
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 5/28/2024, 12:23 PM
@SonOfAGif - Exactly! I feel that every Spider-Man character is in the MCU, but we just haven’t seen them/they aren’t who we’re used to. The Osborns are there, but not how we know them. Heck Norman didn’t spend a lot of time there so he probably couldn’t delve into his variant’s life.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/28/2024, 4:06 PM
@fanboy03191 - For all we know his variant in Earth 616 is a politician or is a philanthropist. Oscorp could even be a think tank at the moment that hasn't blossomed into the corporation it's known to become.
NathanielX
NathanielX - 5/28/2024, 5:55 PM
@SonOfAGif - maybe Oscorp doesnt existe, but HAMER does
DudeGuy
DudeGuy - 5/28/2024, 11:54 AM
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grouch
grouch - 5/28/2024, 11:55 AM
it's shown that comic accurate looks work
it's shown big villains going up against spiderman work..

yet they're still doing solo villains not connected in anyway except daft hints and one liners..

Just give us a goddamn spiderman universe with all his villains and friends.. its 2024 ffs
Th3Batman
Th3Batman - 5/28/2024, 2:17 PM
@grouch - "Just give us a goddamn spiderman universe with all his villains and friends.. its 2024 ffs"

Who needs that when we can have Peter back in high school again.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 5/28/2024, 11:56 AM
Use more thumbs from my new favorite artist Leonardo Romero after the jump on DEEZ NUTZ.
YouFlopped
YouFlopped - 5/28/2024, 12:11 PM
Pete should die in Avengers 5 & bring in someone new. it’s quilts for that boy
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 5/28/2024, 12:19 PM
@YouFlopped - If it comes to the point where Tom Holland doesn't wanna do it anymore, the solution shouldn't be kill the character, just recast him. He is never gonna look older anyway, so hire someone who actually looks over 30 when the time is right.
Order66
Order66 - 5/28/2024, 12:19 PM
@YouFlopped - why do people have to automatically die in movies when you write them off lol. Have him lose his powers in Spider-Man 6 and Miles takes over as the new MCU Spider-Man.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 5/28/2024, 1:21 PM
@Order66 - Just recast him, Tom is good as the character but the character will continue without him.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/28/2024, 12:14 PM
I still would love to see Mr Negative as a villain in this…

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You could take some inspiration from the comics too where he’s involved in F.E.A.S.T as this humanitarian but in actually is this burgeoning crime boss and Peter tries to stop him , especially since May was so heavily involved in that organization in the MCU and he wants to preserve her legacy.

That way, you could also have the street level story aswell.
Luigi
Luigi - 5/28/2024, 12:47 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I'm playing the PS4 game for the first time now and I can't stop thinking how amazing it would be if it were the next movie. I think it would have a The Dark Knight vibe with the less sci-fi "police vs organized crime/corruption", "city going to hell" theme
Slotherin
Slotherin - 5/28/2024, 1:30 PM
@Luigi - city going to hell is what I'd like to see too...
A little bit of influence from Reign wouldn't be bad in that regard.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/28/2024, 1:51 PM
@Luigi - yeah

You could even introduce the likes of Black Tarantula ,Hammerhead or Tombstone as other street level crime bosses.
Order66
Order66 - 5/28/2024, 12:18 PM
Spider-Man 4 - Kingpin, Maggia, Hammerhead, and Tombstone

Spider-Man 5 - Venom

Spider-Man 6 - Alistair Smythe and his Sinister Six (Scorpion, Hydro Man, Chameleon, Rhino, Shocker, and Vulture *bring back Toomes and disregard that stupid Morbius ending and make it non canon)
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 5/28/2024, 12:20 PM
@Order66 - That's pretty good... maybe put Kraven in Spider-Man 5 as a secondary villain like the game did. We need to see Kraven vs Spidey at some point.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/28/2024, 2:36 PM
@Urubrodi - They should have Chameleon and Kraven in the first movie post Secret Wars.

Chameleon was the first villain Spidey faced in the comics, so it would make sense for the reborn MCU Spider-Man to have him as the the first villain and Kraven is his brother.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 5/28/2024, 12:19 PM
Norman didn’t spend long in the MCU world. He only claimed that someone else was living in his house, not that his variant didn’t exist. Does no one pay attention?
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 5/28/2024, 12:19 PM
I’ve said this before, but I would LOVE to see MCU Peter meet an MCU Norman Osborn, who otherwise would just be a run-of-the-mill businessman, but because of the events of NWH Peter keeps trying to steer him away from the goblin formula only to inadvertently cause the transformation.

It would be a really interesting angle we haven’t seen before in a Spidey film, for Peter to know what is to become of the villain (or the potential, rather) and to try and intervene. And then maybe have this big revelation where Norman realizes that he is destined to be Spider-Man’s greatest enemy.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 5/28/2024, 12:28 PM
Meh... Feels like the ship sailed.

On a side note, it's a shame they went with a young actor to presumably age with the role only for said actor to state that he thinks it would be bad to keep going at 30 and age with the role...
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/28/2024, 12:33 PM
@Slotherin - yeah , that’s unfortunate

My ideal Spidey story would be following him from high school to adulthood but I get that it’s a very long term commitment for one actor…

You never know what might happen in real life during that etc.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/28/2024, 1:00 PM
@Slotherin -

That is the sad freakin' truth.

Like any other actor that suddenly makes a lot of money, now he thinks he's Brando when he is really an average actor being famous for playing a goofy kid.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 5/28/2024, 1:13 PM
@TheVisionary25 - i think that's a lot of people's ideal too... It's certainly mine. Sadly they keep restarting in high school and then not going as far further so we tend to feel robbed in the outcome and get this weird recurrence of Spideys trapped in high school in animation.

I'll take this opportunity to mourn the loss of Spectacular Spider-Man since Greg Weisman's plan had been to age Peter as it went on.
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