SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer On Why WB Turned His "Dark, Soulful Movie Into A F*cking Comedy"

SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer On Why WB Turned His "Dark, Soulful Movie Into A F*cking Comedy" SUICIDE SQUAD Director David Ayer On Why WB Turned His "Dark, Soulful Movie Into A F*cking Comedy"

While appearing on the Real Ones podcast, David Ayer once again opened up about his negative experience after helming 2016's Suicide Squad, speaking candidly about studio interference...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 28, 2023 11:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Suicide Squad
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Though 2016's Suicide Squad actually performed pretty well at the box office, critics were far from won over by the first big-screen outing for the Task Force X crew, and it's still widely regarded as one of the worst entries in the DCEU franchise.

It's been well documented that director David Ayer originally had a very different vision for the movie, and he has spoken several times about how Warner Bros. altered the final product almost beyond recognition, releasing a wildly inconsistent, bastardized version into theaters.

During a recent appearance on Jon Bernthal's Real Ones podcast, Ayer once again opened up about his negative experience while working on the movie.

The Punisher actor, who Ayer worked with on Fury, asked the filmmaker what the most difficult time he’s experienced in Hollywood was.

“Hollywood—I tell people—is like watching someone you love get [frick]ed by someone you hate,” explained Ayer. “The big one is Suicide Squad. That shit broke me. That handed me my ass.”

"Come right off Fury, right? I had the town in my hand—could’ve done anything, and I did do anything. And go on this journey with [Suicide Squad]. And the same thing—authentic, truthful, let’s do all the rehearsal, let’s really get in each other’s souls. Let’s create this amazing, collaborative thing, right? And then Deadpool opened, and they never tested Batman v. Superman, so they were expecting a different result and then they got hammered by all the critics. Then it’s like, ‘Okay, we’re going to turn David Ayer’s dark, soulful movie into a [frick]ing comedy now.’”

The director continues to campaign for the release of his "Ayer Cut" of Suicide Squad, and DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has reportedly assured him that he will get the opportunity to share his true vision for the movie with the world at some point.

@realonesjonbernthal David Ayer talks about his experience on Suicide Squad #jonbernthal #dceu #warnerbros #margotrobbie #willsmith ♬ original sound - Real Ones Podcast
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thedrudo - 8/28/2023, 11:33 AM
This guy is truly obsessed. Guess that happens when you keep releasing dud after dud. Ayer was on a crazy good stretch before SS happened. 😔
TheComedian67 - 8/28/2023, 2:38 PM
@thedrudo -

Looking at his filmography there does seem to be a trend where his writing is where he seems to shine the most.

He wrote Fury and End of Watch as well as directing and those are great movies, then on Suicide Squad there were obviously other writers involved and it all went, well, how it went.

He also wrote Training Day, as well as the screenplays for The Fast and the Furious and S.W.A.T which for their time were solid movies, still are imo.

I've insulted Ayer for his obsessing over Suicide Squad, but there's no denying Suicide Squad does not feel like a David Ayer movie. It feels like a studio shit show.

Like that scene in Scary Movie 2 with the butlers messed up hands in the potatoes. The potatoes are Suicide Squad, and the stumpy deformed nub hands are all the studio noodleheads getting involved.
TheComedian67 - 8/28/2023, 2:39 PM
I'll also shamelessly add that I thought Bright was pretty good.
philinterrupted - 8/28/2023, 5:18 PM
@TheComedian67 - I’m sorry, you should have left the part about Bright out.

You tainted your opinion for me.
AmySabadini - 8/28/2023, 11:33 AM
Baf - 8/28/2023, 12:50 PM
@AmySabadini - Agree!
TheLobster - 8/28/2023, 1:13 PM
@AmySabadini - really want to see it come out regardless if it’s good or not. A director’s vision should come out as intended!
AmySabadini - 8/28/2023, 2:24 PM
@TheLobster - MAX is gonna be hungry for content as the strikes drag on. Just Do It.
minato808 - 8/28/2023, 3:00 PM
@AmySabadini - Do you honestly believe he has a complete “Ayer cut” in the can? I know he claims he does and people have seen it but I almost guarantee that if the studio tells him they’d release it it’ll still cost millions to complete.
philinterrupted - 8/28/2023, 5:19 PM
@AmySabadini - if it stops him from talking about it, YEEEESSSS
AmySabadini - 8/28/2023, 6:12 PM
@minato808 - If memory serves, he said at some point that all it needs is SPFX work. If that's true, prolly not millions, but who knows?
Razorface1 - 8/29/2023, 1:29 PM
@minato808 - there is no ayer cut. If he gets his way, he is going to have to hastily write a new one, film and edit it.

It worked for Snyder, it can work for Ayer.
MarkCassidy - 8/28/2023, 11:35 AM
I know people are sick of Ayer talking about this, but it must have been a horrible thing to have to go through to see your movie completely changed like this. Whether the "Ayer Cut" would have been any better is irrelevant... he really believes it was/is. Plus, Ayer has made some good movies, so it's not like he's incapable of delivering.
Deklipz - 8/28/2023, 11:48 AM
@MarkCassidy - Him having made ‘some good movies’ is subjective though. I personally haven’t cared for anything he’s done. Fury was the closest thing to ‘good’ and that was only saved by the performances. The writing was bad, the tank fights looked like they were shooting lasers at each other, and the scene with half the dudes face sitting there with the eye in it was so bad I laughed in the theater out loud. Bright was ‘ok’ but certainly not good.

Regardless he hasn’t done anything that justifies the pedestal people seem to have him on. It’s not like he’s some brilliant visionary. Hell, Ayer doesn’t even have a distinct visual style.
Oskir - 8/28/2023, 11:51 AM
@MarkCassidy - Exactly ! The Ayer Cut is probably not that great but when you work on something for years that you are passionate about and then the studios take it from you and do whatever they have done…
TheHumanSpider2 - 8/28/2023, 11:56 AM
@MarkCassidy - "the released cut its my cut"
MarkCassidy - 8/28/2023, 12:07 PM
@Deklipz - Who the hell puts David Ayer on a pedestal? All I see are people taking the piss out of the guy. And yes, of course it's all subjective... but I really like Fury, End of Watch and Harsh Times. Bright was an interesting mess.
Goldboink - 8/28/2023, 12:24 PM
@Deklipz -
At least Snyder had made a few good movies prior to dry humping Superman into oblivion. Ayer has really done nothing so, yea, cry all you want. Try making a good movie.
Goldboink - 8/28/2023, 12:25 PM
@Oskir -
He got paid. End of story.
McMurdo - 8/28/2023, 1:25 PM
@MarkCassidy - well said.
McMurdo - 8/28/2023, 1:26 PM
@MarkCassidy - End of Watch was FANTASTIC and intense. He has some real bangers for sure.
Deklipz - 8/28/2023, 2:22 PM
@MarkCassidy - All I ever see is people talking about how awesome everything else he’s done besides SS and Bright is. Personally I think the guys a bad filmmaker who’s gotten lucky.
MyCoolYoung - 8/28/2023, 2:37 PM
@MarkCassidy - I never understood the pile-it-on-him mentality. WB has a record of meddling and suicide squad was obviously edited to death. Like you said whether or not a better movie is in there is irrelevant, it's obviously a different one in there
SATW42 - 8/28/2023, 2:46 PM
@MarkCassidy - "I know people are sick of Ayer talking about this, but it must have been a horrible thing to have to go through to see your movie completely changed like this."

I get the point of what you're saying, but at some point it's healthy to move on with your life. It's been the better part of a decade now. Could you imagine if Michael Fassbender was doing interviews today talking about Assassin's Creed?
SATW42 - 8/28/2023, 3:16 PM
@MarkCassidy - Also we're talking about a movie that has a crocodile man, but he talks about it like he's Georges Seurat and someone gave him notes on "A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte"
ziexxx - 8/28/2023, 4:23 PM
@Deklipz - Maybe some directors should stick to directing, and let good writers take care of the writing part ? (Snyder)

And if they have a certain talent in writing (Ayer), don't try to rush things if there's a time constraint ? and if you feel like you are not delivering something good, walk away ?
oldnoname - 8/28/2023, 4:55 PM
@MarkCassidy - That's what I'm saying! I don't necessarily need an Ayer cut but it's remarkably simple to imagine that you worked really hard on something and other parties warped it and then said it was yours. Like I always say, I get annoyed when friends steal my jokes; I can't imagine how this situation would make me feel.
PapaSpank54 - 8/28/2023, 6:29 PM
@MarkCassidy - preach. Artists deserve to have their visions tampered with as little as possible, speaking as someone who's made movies of my own.
Deklipz - 8/28/2023, 8:04 PM
@ziexxx - where did I comment on Snyder? Also, Ayer is a bad writer, not just director. Maybe he should stick to whatever he did before that?
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