SUPERMAN: Here's The Three Most Heatedly Debated Changes From Test Screenings

SUPERMAN: Here's The Three Most Heatedly Debated Changes From Test Screenings

Superman director James Gunn says there were three scenes in the film that sparked the strongest, most divided reactions during early test screenings.

By MarkJulian - Jul 20, 2025 01:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Happy Sad Confused Podcast

As more spoiler discussions emerge from James Gunn on writing and filming Superman, he's now revealed that there are three moments in the movie that caused the most divided reactions from test screenings.

Some of these scenes, Gunn admitted that he got his way, while others, the test screening reactions resulted in the movie going another direction.

Per Gunn, the three scenes were:

  • saving the squirrel
  • Guy Gardner didn't call Superman a wuss, he called him something else (replace the 'w' with a 'p' and add a 'y' on the  end)
  • does Jimmy Olsen smile when being hugged by Eve Teschmacher

On the squirrel scene, Gunn divulged, "We had three or four things that were heatedly debated throughout this movie. [Number one] saving the squirrel- heatedly debated! Some audience members thought it was too much...I said, 'Here's a cute little squirrel that's about to be crushed by a tail.' There's a lot of squirrel haters out there and this is in Los Angeles. Michael Rooker, he eats squirrels, that's for real, that's not a joke."

For the Guy Gardner line change, Gunn stated that this was probably the most heatedly debated change, as in the first cut of the film, he called Superman a p-word. "It got an enormous laugh," said Gunn on the original version.  "Clark goes, 'Hey, there are kids here.' And Guy goes that's why 'I said don't be.' That was a big debate, whether we were going to keep that word."

For the Jimmy Olsen scene, where he's being hugged by Eve Teschmacher, Gunn stated that there were two versions shot, one where Jimmy just stares into the void with a blank face and one where Jimmy smiles, sort of admitting that deep down he kind of feels something for Eve.

"She did save the day. She is the unsung hero of the movie, selfies saved the day...I was pro void, Peter Safran was very pro-smile and we argued about this, although it wasn't as heated as the p-word arguments."

With a production budget of $225 million and an estimated $100 million, Superman has recently crossed an impressive milestone at the box office in its first full week of release. 

After facing a non-existent challenge from the Smurfs reboot this past weekend, its first real test will come in the form of The Fantastic Four: First Steps, which opens on July 24 and will command much of the lucrative IMAX screens. 

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 1:39 PM
AND the test audience said they love Jor El sending Supes to impregnate as much human pussy as posible....BRAVO GUNN!
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 7/20/2025, 1:49 PM
@Malatrova15 - id have preffered lex to have doctored the end of Joe Els message. it would have spoke to deepfake AI that we are going to be dealing with if not already. I know its supposed to hit home how much his earth parents loved him but that's just it, superman was always portrayed as being loved by all his parents, as gunn said himself, superman is supposed to be one of the most stable hero. yeah he was adopted but he was always loved and happy. Does supergirl know that his parents were fascists? guess she could have known but not wanted to shatter his image of his krypton parents.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/20/2025, 2:16 PM
@NonPlayerC - they're not fascists. They're tyrants. But probably not even that. They just have a different value system.

Either way, it emphasizes that Clark is good because he is Clark, and only the powers are what he takes from Krypton, as it should be, in line with what his creators did.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 3:11 PM
@Pictilli - my exact thoughts on Israel ...they only have diferent values AND people misundertand them
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 7/20/2025, 3:20 PM
@Malatrova15 - didn't his parents do that in the post crisis comics
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 3:55 PM
@blitzburgh - quoting Costner's Pa Kent : "Maybe🤷🏼"
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 7/20/2025, 5:13 PM
@Pictilli - Fascissm is authoritarian political ideology and movement that emphasizes the subordination of individual rights and freedoms to the state or authority power. It typically involves a dictatorial leader a belief in the superiority of the nation. Most tyrants are fascists but that doesn't mean a fascist is a tyrants, so they are clerks to fascists in that regard. Jor El sent him to earth to rule and create a harem to repopulate a kryptonian blooded population on earth. He would be a ruler at least until his children came of age. That meets just about all crate of being fascist.

and I literally mentioned how I understood that was Gunns point to drive home how much his earth parents loved him. what the creators did? he was originally most often portrayed as a scientist who is peaceful and democratic. Superman has always done good for goodness sake. Every hero doesn't have to have some major conflict driving them. I think most fire fighters probably don't have childhood trauma of their house burning down. It was an unneeded change that could have easily been tweaked to have an evil lex doctor a video. Just saying the extra emphasis wasn't needed, if you liked it.... cool
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/20/2025, 5:20 PM
@Malatrova15 - nah, Israel is just evil.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/20/2025, 5:23 PM
@NonPlayerC - every fascist has been democratically elected. I don't see how Jor El and Lara are fascists if they want their son to impose their will on the world when he grows up. I really like the twist and believe it puts Superman more in line with what his creators did than any other version.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 5:36 PM
@Pictilli - wooah..cool It whit the antisemite remarks man
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 7/20/2025, 5:45 PM
@Pictilli - most are elected yes then they convert from democratic to authoritarian to keep power. but no not all. Mussolini and the national fascist party took power by force at the march of Rome in 1922. Italy’s King, Victor Emmanuel III, refused to declare a state of emergency and impose martial law. Instead he dissolved the government and asked Mussolini to form a new one.

I still have no idea what you are talking about with more in line with what the creators did, Joe el was originally and most often a scientist that pleads his case that the planet was being destroyed in what is usually a senate which is a democratic form of government.

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Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/20/2025, 5:48 PM
@NonPlayerC - being from Krypton is just the explanation for the powers in his creators' stories. In fact, Superman and no one else on earth even knows he is from another planet.

And yes, fascists are democratically elected to be authoritarian by the people. That is never a hidden part of their campaigns.
ogrodafloresta
ogrodafloresta - 7/21/2025, 3:26 PM
@Malatrova15 - It’s not a coincidence that he chose Bradley Cooper to be Jor-El
F4ntasticClunge
F4ntasticClunge - 7/20/2025, 1:42 PM
I'll try and watch this tomorrow but I feel im going to be rolling my eyes a lot 😫😮‍💨

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SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 7/20/2025, 1:46 PM
@28ClungesLater - biggest disappointment since BvS for me
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 7/20/2025, 1:55 PM
@28ClungesLater - I had a few eye rolling moments and didn't love everything about it but overall I thought it was good. I was one that was skeptical with the trailers, thought they looked too silly. Corenswet isn't my favorite superman but he is a believable superman, he's got the hope and exudes goodness. Not as intimidating as Cavill but can't have everything. Like I said I had a few "huh" moments but thought it was enjoyable and a good start to the new dcu
Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 2:03 PM
@28ClungesLater - I have been meaning to ask you what you thought of it, but it looks like I will see it before you. I am heading out to see it later tonight.
F4ntasticClunge
F4ntasticClunge - 7/20/2025, 2:49 PM
@Forthas - let me know what you think sir!
F4ntasticClunge
F4ntasticClunge - 7/20/2025, 2:50 PM
@SteviesRightFoo - ooooohh idk man Josstice league broke my heart in two lmao.
F4ntasticClunge
F4ntasticClunge - 7/20/2025, 2:51 PM
@NonPlayerC - i think I'll feel the same as you! I'll probably cry inside because it doesn't feel epic enough but i may like it 😬
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 3:12 PM
@SteviesRightFoo - AND the next reboot Will be even a biggest dud AND so on ...welcome to life.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 7/20/2025, 3:21 PM
@Forthas - try to go in not as a hater but just as a consumer of comic book movies
Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 3:26 PM
@blitzburgh - I promise to give it a fair assessment!
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 7/20/2025, 4:11 PM
@28ClungesLater - i fully understand
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 7/20/2025, 5:16 PM
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Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 8:55 PM
@28ClungesLater -
@blitzburgh

So this film is good only if you turn off your brain. It is completely absurd! What I can say that is good is that there are about three or so poignant moments that hit home (Pa Kents speech to Clark had me teary eyed) and the actors do everything they can with the script they are given. Cornswet in particular gives a good performance and it turns out he was an excellent casting choice. Again, the script and story does not do him any favors. A couple of things that everyone said was really strong was the chemistry between Cornswet and Bosnahan and Mr. Terrific. I personally did not see anything special about either but it was probably one of the more positive things. In terms of the negatives, the story is convoluted, the CGI was cringe worthy, and some characters were downright terrible or virtually nonexistent including Hawkgirl (terrible), Perry White (nearly non existent), Lex Luthor (terrible), and Rick Flagg (nearly non existent). I give this movie a 4 out of 10.
F4ntasticClunge
F4ntasticClunge - 7/21/2025, 1:17 AM
@Forthas - thank you sir!

Hopefully I'll see it today. 😬
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 7/21/2025, 10:49 PM
@Forthas - Lex Luthor was awesome
Forthas
Forthas - 7/22/2025, 1:45 AM
@blitzburgh - I kind of Lex Luthor as really calm and cold. This one was too high strung.
blitzburgh
blitzburgh - 7/22/2025, 9:45 PM
@Forthas - he's young
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 7/20/2025, 1:45 PM
Dude the saving the squirrel scene was peak superhero !
Idk why anyone would debate that since it’s so Superman.


I will say I didn’t like how this Jimmy Olsen was so smug and frankly he was a di** towards Miss Tesmacher , yeah she was a bit over the top but in the end she was no dummy.
So I’m glad they made him smile at the end cause she deserved it.
RolandD
RolandD - 7/20/2025, 1:49 PM
@MisterDoctor217 - Yes on both points. Even though Guy can be a total jerk, we didn’t need for Superman to be called a pu$$y.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 7/20/2025, 2:01 PM
@RolandD - I think id rather guy call him a pu$$y than supergirl call him a Bit*h. Don't get me wrong I liked half the supergirl cameo, thought it was great krypto poinding her into the ground with excitement as she laughs hysterically. I could see guy saying that when supes doesn't deserve it at all and is just worried about children picking up bad language. Hell my nephew has been slinging guys hand gesture for days now (wonderful use of guys powers by the way, though I do find it strange how much superman felt like a kids movie but then out of no where lex executes a guy and scenes like guy, kind of felt out of place in tone)
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 7/20/2025, 2:12 PM
@RolandD -

Yeah I’m glad they cut that out although it does kinda make sense since everyone is jealous of Supes basically lol
But I mean it would have been a tad bit too much
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 3:13 PM
@RolandD - i need it
KamenRider
KamenRider - 7/20/2025, 1:52 PM
Ultimately, most big budget films make want they deserve to make. You have to give audiences something “new”. The general audience flocks to films that are epic in their visuals, scope and story-telling. While I enjoyed Superman 2025, nothing about it felt epic. Everything seemed kind of small and limited. Nothing screamed “epic” about it to me, with the exception being the pocket universe and the shot of Superman coming out of the dust, and the shot of him on the moon with Krypto. I think Supergirl will remedy this with its adventure into space. People have seen these heroes done well in the past, you have to give them something new and visually epic. Obviously it should be well-written too, but I can think of examples of visually appealing blockbuster films with bad writing and kill it at the box office. But what they all do well is take the audience somewhere new. This film didn’t really take me anywhere new visually or emotionally.
KamenRider
KamenRider - 7/20/2025, 1:56 PM
@KamenRider - sorry, the end scene of Supes watching his parents while Iggy Pop sinks “I’m a punk rocker got me, it, was visually and emotionally resonant. A great way to end the film. Metamorpho and Mr Terrific worked as well.
MR
MR - 7/20/2025, 6:52 PM
@KamenRider - this right here. NOTHING about this take on this beloved character was epic.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/20/2025, 1:55 PM
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AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 7/20/2025, 2:09 PM
Hard core DC fans be like “that squirrel was Ch’p”
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