SUPERMAN Spoilers: Post-Credits Scenes Revealed Along With A Controversial Change To The Hero's Origin

SUPERMAN Spoilers: Post-Credits Scenes Revealed Along With A Controversial Change To The Hero's Origin

Several Superman rumours have been confirmed following this week's screenings, including the movie's post-credits scenes, and a potentially controversial change to the Man of Steel's Kryptonian heritage.

By JoshWilding - Jul 09, 2025 04:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Many of you reading this will have no doubt attended yesterday evening's early Superman screenings. While we'll be bringing you some in-depth spoiler breakdowns later this week, there are a couple of big talking points worth highlighting early. 

Several months ago, it was reported that Guardians of the Galaxy star Bradley Cooper had been cast as Jor-El. Filmmaker James Gunn has since confirmed that the actor plays Clark Kent's Kryptonian father, though a plot leak suggesting he might be a villainous character was met with scepticism.

We've heard from multiple sources who have seen Superman and have some additional insights to share with you today. After Lex Luthor and The Engineer invade the Fortress of Solitude, they decode a message from Jor-El to Kal-El, revealing that he believed Earthlings are half-witted and easy to rule. It shows him suggesting that his son take many wives, make as many babies as possible, and rule the Earth. 

It all feels very Invincible-inspired and paints Jor-El in an extremely negative light. However, it raises a fascinating nature vs. nurture debate, allowing Gunn to explore Clark Kent's humanity as well as the positive impact his human parents, Jonathan and Martha, have had on him. 

Cooper's role is minimal, but Gunn has seemingly pulled inspiration from comics where Jor-El was painted in an antagonistic light after it was revealed he survived Krypton's destruction. 

Ultimately, Superman appears to reject his Kryptonian heritage by replacing his recording of Jor-El and Lara in the Fortress with one of his Earth parents. 

As for the post-credits scenes, they're exactly the ones we told you about several weeks ago. Neither makes for essential viewing, but if you're a fan, then you'll obviously want to stick around for as much Superman content as possible! 

The first shows Clark Kent and Krypto on the Moon together (a shot that's been used in posters and TV spots), while the second is a humorous effort with Superman and Mister Terrific looking at some destruction in Metropolis. When one of the buildings starts to split in half, Terrific repairs it, and the Man of Steel criticises his work because it isn't completely perfect. 

Have you seen Superman yet? If so, let us know your review of the movie in the comments section!

Superman, DC Studios' first feature film to hit the big screen, is set to soar into theaters worldwide this summer from Warner Bros. Pictures.

In his signature style, James Gunn takes on the original superhero in the newly imagined DC universe with a singular blend of epic action, humor and heart, delivering a Superman who’s driven by compassion and an inherent belief in the goodness of humankind.  

The movie stars David Corenswet in the dual role of Superman/Clark Kent, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane and Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor.

Also appearing are Edi Gathegi, Anthony Carrigan, Nathan Fillion, Isabela Merced, Skyler Gisondo, Sara Sampaio, María Gabriela de Faría, Wendell Pierce, Alan Tudyk, Pruitt Taylor Vince, Neva Howell, and Milly Alcock.

Superman arrives in theaters on July 11, 2025.

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/9/2025, 5:04 AM
"It all feels very Invincible-inspired and paints Jor-El in an extremely negative light."

It reminds me off My Adventures With Superman as well. Maybe even moreso, given Invincible has one dad and Superman deals with the differing ideologies of two.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/9/2025, 6:30 AM
@bkmeijer1 - His father wasn't exactly an antagonist in it but I thought he was at least a questionable douchebag back in the day with the Donner films too.

I haven't seen this film yet but it can oft depend on perspectives too as a person who could be considered of good intent may think Superman ruling Earth and improving the genetic pool of the populace etc would be a way to help us be better as we have created a lot of problems for ourselves with constant wars and nukes without getting into stuff like destruction of rain forests or over population and climate change. So there can be a reasonable debate to if a god like being should rule and control, or serve and inspire by example in the same way there is a debate on do you kill or just bring to the justice system bad guys (with ample room for nuance between the two extremes).

I mean ALMOST always in comics rule and control is considered bad, and always killing everyone a protagonist faces at least making the character a darker antihero rather than true beacon of hope hero but I'm sure you get the point :D
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/9/2025, 8:21 AM
@Apophis71 - the debate you raise would be quite interesting to see play out on the big screen with Lex Luthor. Could even see him turn pro-Superman if he realises Superman is meant to rule an unruly populace.

That said, I do hope Superman remains a symbol of a better tomorrow.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 7/9/2025, 5:08 AM
@Pictilli - You sound awfully a lot like that bozo Hack Snyder from Facebook.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/9/2025, 5:11 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - he was right in 2013 when he said James Gunn was the right person for Superman and he is right today
OptimusInTime
OptimusInTime - 7/9/2025, 5:06 AM
Hmmmm not sure about this.. So who has seen it then??
Any good or what??
lord22
lord22 - 7/9/2025, 5:13 AM
@OptimusInTime - it's awesome

i never was a huge fan og gunn movies but with superman he really did his best movie.

also there is no toiler humor and stupid characters like in gotg
Laridian
Laridian - 7/9/2025, 10:44 AM
@OptimusInTime - No, it's not good. It's incredible.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 7/9/2025, 5:06 AM
James Gunn just couldn't help himself. He had to shit on character's origin.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/9/2025, 5:10 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - nah that was Snyder. Gunn restored the character to his proper point and slapped down the over emphasis on the alien aspect that has dominated the character and made him boring in live action for years.

Clark creating his costumed heroic identity because of the Kents is much more psychologically interesting than him just inheriting it as a predestined savior and is in line with the original comics. Gunn did great.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 7/9/2025, 5:15 AM
@Pictilli - You're still hiding under sock accounts, Kellum? Hi, it's Jasav from FB, the guy that's been clowning your hateful ass since 2016.

Anyhow, evidently, by portraying Jor-El as evil your pal Gunn have completely shit all over character's origin, because the point of Superman was always that he represents two worlds, and his mission to embody best qualities of those worlds. Evidently, Snyder got it more right by portraying Jor-El as a good father. Because that's the tragedy of Superman being sent to Earth and his native world being destroyed.

But I guess red trunks is all it takes to win you over.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/9/2025, 6:34 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - I wouldnt say Snyder got it more right. It sounds like they both got something wrong.

From the sounds of it Snyder got Jor El more right, but he definitely did not get John Kent right.

John Kent and Jor El are equally as important.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/9/2025, 9:19 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - You sound like one of those trolls from India that James Gunn talked about, Jasav.

No, that's not the point of Superman. The point of Superman is that he is a guy with superpowers who uses them for good. Krypton/Jor El is just the explanation for why he has powers. There's no assimilation story representing Krypton because Clark grew up on earth and earth is the only conscious home he ever had.

Siegel got it right the first time.

You and Snyder did not.

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I love that James Gunn put you snyderbots in the movie though as mutant monkeys online.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/9/2025, 9:35 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS -

I couldn’t agree more.

I hate the evil Jor-el thing.
Laridian
Laridian - 7/9/2025, 10:48 AM
@DocSpock - Watch the film and then decide if you hate it.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/9/2025, 11:11 AM
@Laridian -

I’m sure I’ll like the movie, but I hate the whole concept of an evil Joe-el when and where ever it pops up.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/9/2025, 5:07 AM
I loved the movie. 9/10. Best Lex Luthor ever in live action. It was surreal...like seeing Lex for the first time. Well done, Gunn!!

And I like the twist with Jor El and Lara. It cuts through the years of over emphasis on the alien aspect of the character that we've gotten from Snyder and the CW and gets right to the point of the character: Jor El and Lara don't have to be good because they aren't the basis for Superman's morality. Krypton is just the explanation for Clark's powers, but being Clark is why he is Superman, it's why he uses those powers for good. This all culminates in the scene at the end where Lex calls Superman an alien and Superman claps back, which was a much needed rebuttal to everything David Goyer and frankly Mark Waid and most other writers have tried to do to the character for the last 20 years. I am so happy to see that Gunn gets the character.... not just Superman, but ALL of the characters. I am so happy the Kents are finally being done right in a movie and are still alive too.

Thank you, Gunn!
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 7/9/2025, 5:18 AM
@Pictilli - Hi there, Kellum. Your wish finally came true: you got your red undies in a Superman movie.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/9/2025, 6:43 AM
@Pictilli - I dont agree. Jor El is a PART of his morality. Its the whole nature vs nurture thing. Jor El is equally as important as the Kents.

I compare it to regular Superman and Superman Red Son. In one world he's sent to Earth and the Kents find him. He has two morally sound sets of parents, his Kryptonian parents and hos adopted Earth parents.

But in Red Son he lands in Russia, is scooped in by the biggest communist war machine in the world, amd is raised to be their weapon. He doesnt get raised by the Kents, yet he still has a pretty strong moral compass. He's still Superman, just with different motivations.

I know thats just one alternate reality that explores this in a certain way, but to say Jor El doesnt have to be good is a little odd. He is what gave Superman the building blocks for the Kents to build with.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/9/2025, 9:23 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Red Son suggests that Superman is innately good and that the people of Russia are themselves not bad and are responsible for his moral upbringing, even if the government/leadership is bad, which parallels the US more than you think.

Also, Red Son Superman doesn't know much of Krypton or derive his morality from Krypton in that book, either. The costume and symbol all still come from earth but as creations of the government rather than Clark.

In the end of the book it is revealed that Krypton is just a future earth and Clark was sent back in time as a baby to save himself from earth's destruction, just like the original 1934 origin of Superman, before the future earth was changed to Krypton because publishers didn't like the time travel element, proving yet again that Krypton is just supposed to be the explanation for the powers in a Superman story, nothing more.

If you want a fish out of water, alien first contact assimilation fantasy, the Martian Manhunter is your guy, not Superman.
epc1122
epc1122 - 7/9/2025, 10:56 PM
@Pictilli - honestly, I’m glad you liked the movie but you really shouldn’t say what Gunn did was a nice twist on Jor-el and Lara and then if other creators have a particular change you don’t like you consider it disrespectful to the creators. Overall I thought the movie was really good but I did think there were some flaws. Definitely looking forward to seeing it again, multiple times in the theater!
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/9/2025, 11:27 PM
@epc1122 - I only consider a change disrespectful if it undermines the point of the character, and this does not.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/9/2025, 5:19 AM
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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 7/9/2025, 5:29 AM
How do they explain the wetsuit?
Laridian
Laridian - 7/9/2025, 10:48 AM
@ProfessorWhy - Wet suit?
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 7/9/2025, 12:04 PM
@Laridian - the one Clark wears with the S on it
Laridian
Laridian - 7/9/2025, 1:47 PM
@ProfessorWhy - I've heard criticisms of the suit, but I've never anyone call it a wet suit. That's weird. It looks nothing like a wet suit.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 7/9/2025, 3:28 PM
@Laridian - well, thanks for taking the time to not answer my question
Laridian
Laridian - 7/9/2025, 8:22 PM
@ProfessorWhy - Your question doesn't deserve an answer because it's stupid.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 7/10/2025, 2:59 AM
@Laridian - 🖕
Forthas
Forthas - 7/9/2025, 5:58 AM
"...they decode a message from Jor-El to Kal-El, revealing that he believed Earthlings are half-witted and easy to rule. It shows him suggesting that his son take many wives, make as many babies as possible, and rule the Earth."w

Well, well, well...Man of Steel was derided for supposedly not having a "comic accurate" representation of Jonathan Kent. Let's see the response to this bit of news now that Jor-El is "Space Hitler" which is 1000 times worse.

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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/9/2025, 7:21 AM
@Forthas - Kinda depends how much any given nerd cares about the biological parents that originaly died at the start of the origin when Superman was still a baby. His adopted Father and how he was raised they all care about, the mostly absent sperm donor not so much and doubt the GA would mind too much either way IF the films are good.

Messing about with Mothers, birth or adopted, tends to have way more reaction than Dad's in the main too.

I ended up WAY more a Batman fan, spent WAY more time top of my fav comic character than any other over the since I started reading them in the 70's, Superman was the first but dethroned by Bruce before I go to High School. In that case if they switched to his Dad painted as more towards bad guy I wouldn't actualy care but make Alfred turn bad (or killed off in the first film) and I'd likely always be pissed even if overall was OK with the product beyond that. It ultimately will depend on IF they go there and Jor-El somehow survived the destruction of the planet and is the main antagonist in a future film, if the actor simply voices a creation of his sorta Stark making Ultron style that would be an easier one for folk to be OK with and if he stays dead never heard from again it will be fast forgotten.

TLDR In my case I never cared about the biological Father of Superman so doesnt bother me making any changes to him, be it from or not a version of the source material. In many ways embracing the teachings of his human one, rejecting the words of the Kryptonian Dad enhances rather than detracts from the core aspects of Kal-El that embraces and embodies the best of humanity thus in most ways that matter more Human than Kryptonian.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/9/2025, 11:31 AM
@Forthas - Ruling earth isn't hitler. as far as I can tell there's no ethnic cleansing suggested. And how many care about Jor-El as a presence more than Jonathan Kent? Don't you think some can regard some characters as more important than others?
Forthas
Forthas - 7/9/2025, 12:47 PM
@dagenspear - Hitler sought to conquer Europe...thus the parallels and Jor-El through technology has traditionally been one of the influences that gave Superman purpose to be good...until now!
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/9/2025, 3:06 PM
@Forthas - Lots of people try to conquer. You hyper focus on Hitler? Whose main issue, I'm aware has been boiled down to generic fascism, but had a lot more problems. Where's the Jor-El direction of ethnic cleansing?

Did Jor-El raise Clark? I don't think he did. So, like I think Pattinson Batman, whose dad didn't raise him to do wrong, I still see no real issue with the idea that he be a bad guy (I still criticize The Batman for chickening out, to me, with Thomas Wayne), as long as it doesn't effect the hero themselves or their story.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/9/2025, 5:13 PM
@dagenspear - I actually don't have a problem with it, I am just drawing attention to the blatant hypocrisy that Gunn Glazers engage in when it comes to Man of Steel. In Gunn's movie Jor El DID influence him thus why he was upset when he found out the truth. In Man of Steel Jonathan Kent is engaging in a hypothetical situation that at no point ever causes Clark to not help anyone. Here we have Jor El openly telling Clark to conquer people. If it is not OK in one case then it should not be in the other. The hypocrisy is staggering.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/10/2025, 12:54 AM
@Forthas - But what's hypocrisy about disliking something done to a character who has a massive role in Clark's upbringing and being fine with something being done to a character who Clark only really interacts with a version of, in the adaptions I've seen, when he's in his teens or adulthood, if at all.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/10/2025, 3:19 AM
@dagenspear - The hypocrisy is in saying that it was wrong to do because it was contrary to original comic book or film representations. In the case of Jonathan Kent, he was basically the same as in previous versions but in Man of Steel he explored an often ignored reality that Clark had these powers as a child and what was the reasoning for not showing it then. In this case Jor-El being a space tyrant is a complete revision of any comic or film and I want the same people that criticized Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel to either also criticize Jor-El in Superman or try to explain the inconsistency.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 7/9/2025, 6:07 AM
I'm down with a twist like that. Just don't let Jor-El be another Zod. He should stay dead with Krypton.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/9/2025, 7:31 AM
@JustAWaffle - In the Donner films, not the same thing but he rejects the words of his biological Father but returns to call for his Mum and she was percieved as the 'better biological' parent so if both stay dead it shouldn't matter to most as will feel familiar. I mean there were some questioning Jor El putting the codex into his Son in the last film adaption so having a less than good view of dead dad isn't knew, just don't mess up with adopted Dad again.
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