The Supermen in our lives. Updated!!!

The Supermen in our lives. Updated!!!

Analysing today's portrayal of our childhood hero. And putting a few new thoughts for the reboot!!!

Editorial Opinion
By Shaman - Jul 03, 2009 12:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman



Following the fan made trailer of Reeve versus Routh, the debate inspired me at analysing the men who dawned the cape and why they did it in the fashion they used.

Honestly, I "enjoyed" Routh. Possibly because we waited too long for a Superman movie and I got to a point where I didn't care even if freakin' CAGE put on the cape n'boots. BUT, let's not tell ourselves fairy tales here. They found the perfect replacement for Reeve, not Superman. And that says a lot. I don't want to sound too sacrilegious here but let’s be honest with ourselves. Reeve will always be Superman in our eyes because he was the perfect embodiment of the character in 1980. We grew up with him thinking he was perfect. He gave us everything we've ever dreamed of but we have however, evolved from those primitive views. Today, if an actor that had the same build as Reeve was chosen for the role, the last thing he’d look like is “super”... such as Cage and Routh. People bitch about Routh but praise Reeve when they could not have possibly found a better double.



Routh's Superman is exactly the same as Reeve's. The only difference is in the Clark half of the character and there is a reason why Routh seemed to not push it as much as Reeve did. In 1980 clumsiness was very popular on the big screen in forms of comedy and that Charlie Chaplin "style", which was followed with Jerry Lewis, was still widely acclaimed. Even though the technology had evolved so we could finally see a caped hero fly on the big screen, the average movie goers were the ones that had grown up watching Chaplin n' Lewis and still enjoyed them, which is why Reeve's overly clumsy Clark could be enjoyed without criticism. Today however, IF Routh had pushed Clark to Reeve’s standards, it would have looked as if Mr. Bean took over the Daily Planet. Do you guys honestly know someone that clumsy in your neck of the woods? I mean, we all joke at how we spill milk and brake vases but to that extent??? I understand that it was part of his ruse to disguise his secret identity but in our day and age, he would’ve attracted too much attention to himself and I’m pretty sure that’s the last thing you want when you’re hiding.

Also, the "underdog" syndrome was the rage back then and yes, that included having his ass handed to him on a platter by even mere mortals. It does explain why we haven’t seen Kal-El “unleashed” as of yet. But look at what we're bitching about today. Sups getting beaten up like a cheap hooker, too much Lex as the villain and not enough "out of this world" experience. Is that the hero we know and love from the comics we read today? Of course not. But don't tell me you guys are too blind to see the link between Donner's work and Signer's. So, what they did in Superman Returns was to use the 1980 primitive recipe and use it on a more advanced generation. I can appreciate what Signer wanted to do which was to pay homage to Richard however, that concept had failure written all over it before the full script was written (not even mentioning the brain fart of a super son) and WAAAAAAYYYYY before Routh was ever cast.



The bottom line is, even though Reeve would have been younger in our day and age, he'd never have been the first choice for the role had he not delivered the classics we grew up with. Routh was an excellent replacement but not the Superman we all want to see. The "evolved" Superman we've been reading for the last 20 years. I mean, look at Tom Welling’s fan base!!! Give me one honest to god point in common his Clark has with Reeve's. There aren't any! Dean Cain's Superman was extremely popular and also had nothing in common with Reeve. Cain wasn't a better Superman than Reeve; he was the best Superman for our generation in the 90's. So until they re-capture the new essence of that 22nd century evolved character, simply no one will do since the recipe they're using now sucks by our new standards. I personally felt they were going in the right direction having Cain follow Reeve and then having Welling follow Cain. Now what we need is someone to follow what Welling has added to the evolution of the character. I feel Welling was a brilliant choice for Clark’s youth but until they give him a decent haircut and throw him the cape, it’s too soon to see if he has what it takes to capture the rest of Clark’s life. Perhaps someone else could brilliantly follow Welling’s work.



Routh might have what it takes if they ever let him give a little bit of his own. But at the end of the day, the last thing we need is to go back to the 80’s because evolution never looks back. That’s why they say “it’s history.”



Since they are working on rebooting the franchise, they could keep Brandon Routh along for the ride and bring in a better foe. I think General Zod has always been a fan favorite along with his beautiful mistress Ursa, maybe a fresh new take on these characters would do the trick! It would certainly force Superman to "unleash" his attributes. It could also be a great door opened to bring in our own favorite Supergirl for a tag team battle royale!!! I think that with all his performance which speaks for themselves, Rufus Sewell would be perfect for the general. And for a delightfully blonde youth, ELisha Cuthbert could certainly fill the red skirt. As for Ursa, Parker Posey would have been ideal but she has already been the useless lackey of Lex. Since Watchmen is a done deal, i think Malin Akerman could take the character to new heights! Here are a few pics to make your mouth water :)

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krzymua
krzymua - 6/19/2009, 8:29 AM
first...
kewl...
KryptonianRage
KryptonianRage - 6/19/2009, 8:39 AM
Great article, you made alot of good points and I agree with the concept of Routh being the perfect replacement for Reeves but not for Superman.

In an interview with Future magazine in February 1979, Reeve described Superman's human persona Clark Kent by saying: "He invents the whole Clark Kent personality, but he's not very good at it at first. We see him the first day on the job learning what you're supposed to do as a reporter, how to go on assignment and all that stuff; the first day he meets Lois; the first scene in Perry White's office. Then the next time you see him he's a little better at it, and then he becomes a damn good reporter. We tried to get away from things that are cut-and-dried and into the learning process. And he's learning to be Clark Kent, he's also learning how to be Superman. I think that discovery can be interesting."

I loved how he slicked down his hair, rounded his shoulders, stooped his height, and raised his voice to play the mild-mannered reporter. It was this portrayal that made it believable that this high-voiced man who kept adjusting his glasses on the bridge of his nose could walk among men without anyone suspecting that, when he stood tall, he was, indeed, the Man of Steel.

LastSon1027
LastSon1027 - 6/19/2009, 9:06 AM
I STAND AND APPLAUD THIS WHOLE ARTICLE.
Now if only we could get this to some movie execs then we would be in business. You know If I were you I would send this off to Warner Borthers & DC, who cares if the odds of them reading it are a billion to one, that one chance for them to read something so true and so well written is worth more than enough for me sir. GOOD SHOW FRIEND, GOOD SHOW!
Shaman
Shaman - 6/19/2009, 9:48 AM
KryptonianRage- Great point! And IMO, that's exactly the very manners that Routh kept for Clark. He just ditched the doucheness of being a clumsy testosteroneless fart.

LastSon1027- Thanks dude, i'm just psyched that no one has ordered a hitman on me for saying Reeves wouldn't be Superman if he auditionned for the part in our day and age :) Of course it is pretty early in the day LOL :P Tell you what though, you find me an e-mail for DC execs and i'll gladly forward them this article :))
divo
divo - 6/19/2009, 10:16 AM
Amazing article man, nuff said!
LastSon1027
LastSon1027 - 6/19/2009, 10:24 AM
Believe me if I find an address you will be the first to know. But as far as Reeves goes your right. Don't get me wrong I love Reeves, he was amazing but people demand more of Superman now. Superman has had so much more exposure since the late 70's and 80's then he had back then which Reeves is mostly responsible for. Ironically, because of that exposure he would never stand up as a modern day Superman.

You know I'm a Welling supporter and I agree with everything you said. If they would just let him stand up and be Superman I think he could define this generations Superman, but also since we are talking about Irony, I hear that welling is the one person who doesn't want that. As far as I know he is adamant that he will never wear the suit. Now if it's because he doesn't want to be stereotyped someone ought to tell him the ship has sailed. So I think it is a shame that it works out this way but I am sure it is for the best.

I think your right man if they take the nobility that Reeves brought, the physical build that Cain brought and the humanity that Welling brings and put that in one package we are gonna have a AWESOME film.
zephyr
zephyr - 6/19/2009, 10:56 AM
Why do people keeping getting his name wrong?

It's Christopher REEVE not REEVES. Get it right people.

Shaman
Shaman - 6/19/2009, 11:18 AM
Yeah lastson, i heard that too. I mean, what does he think? That only the red panties make him typecast??? LOL He should realise that he's good at doing what he does and should just let go and fly! Now i'm not saying he's right for "the movie" per say because like i said, it's too early to tell. But it would be nice for a good director to work at building this "Superman" that we really want to see, and watch Welling do his stuff. Maybe it would be the best Superman yet. Then again, letting Routh do the same could also give us much much more than the constrictive portrayal he was forced to give. Who's to know? What we definitely need is a director worth his title, that's a given!

zephyr- There you go. Thanks for the heads up.
SupermanReturns2
SupermanReturns2 - 6/19/2009, 3:27 PM
Yeah.
Tobuttica
Tobuttica - 6/19/2009, 5:30 PM
:::CLAPS::: It's nice that you didn't do any Supe bashing yet showed why they all have their goods and bads. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Routh tackle it again, with a more all around director.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/19/2009, 6:16 PM
Great Article @ SHAMAN @!!!

As for next Superman movie =

SUPERMAN VS DOOMSDAY!!!! ; )
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 6/20/2009, 12:06 AM
Has anyone seen Shibazz? Its not like her to be gone so long... where is her famous Bitchazz comments... Where ever she is I hope she is having fun...

Good article. I still dont care too much for Routh... but very well presented.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 6/20/2009, 9:37 AM
LastSon1027 - Maybe there is an element of fear residing in Welling. He has defined "young Clark" for our generation and his fan base speaks volumes. As "Clark" he can do no wrong. If he took the next step onto being "Superman" he risks loosing it all. It wouldn't even have to be his fault, bad direction or writing could lead to a domino effect shattering all he has built. It's a big gamble and maybe the stakes are too high for his liking.
Supermike
Supermike - 6/20/2009, 12:18 PM
100 percent agree as for the next superman movie

why not send him to the future with the legion
hawkngo
hawkngo - 6/22/2009, 2:06 AM
Supermike why do that?
Hellmont
Hellmont - 6/22/2009, 3:56 AM
Kudos to you Shaman

Your article is great and your point are irrefutable. I only wish there was something we could do to help make the Superman film we want to see..... a reality and not a just a hopeless thought.
It is very difficult to pin point with accuracy what causes the movies of our child hood heroes to fail. To fail in the sense of the story not financially. For us the flaws in the storyline stick out like sore thumb. The next Superman Film requires a director with the kind of love for the character that could be equal or greater than Peter Jacksons Love for The Lord of the Rings or Chris Nolans Determination to make Batman a success. And an Actor who will show us the way to the next Superman.
hawkngo
hawkngo - 6/22/2009, 6:41 AM
Wow great article and badass pic of welling as Sups! pretty cool.
Shaman
Shaman - 6/22/2009, 10:41 AM
WOW guys!!! Thanks for all the kind words!!! Never knew most of us were on the same page here :)) Glad to hear it :))

Tobutica- Actually, if Routh was to reprise the role, i do believe we'd be in need of a complete and utter shock in differences of performances. He'd need to make Superman his own instead of following instructions based on passed successes.

Howlett04- That's actually a great point and probably also why i have a feeling that having Welling as the next Superman might not be the best thing. Maybe an unknown or a rising star might be better for the role. Because weither he'd be a great Superman or not, that is besides the issue. The issue is that it WILL be a whole new ball game when they start production on the next movie and it sure as hell won't have the same feel as the show did. He could be wrong for that feel even though it would have been cool to see the character's evolution up to that point.

Hellmont- As do i! And i agree with you entirely!!! There will have to be a team atmosphere for the next films to succeed! They'll need a brand new recepy and approach to the franchise. Which could mean a fresh new face for the character as well. Now i know i've suggested this actor a while back which wasn't really a popular choice but i'd really like to see JJ Abrams and Chris Pine bring thier new success to Superman's franchise. I think they could be just what the doctor ordered! Branaugh is going that way with Hemsorth as Thor which is bound to succeed, why not bring it to Superman? If not Pine, at least someone with the same "sparkle" as Hemsorth or Pine. For all we know, Sam Worthington's schedual is open in the near future :)

And, i might not agree with having Superman zip to the future but i'm in for a Legion film hands down :))
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 6/22/2009, 11:25 PM
Shaman, great article, but there were two guys to portray Supes BEFORE Cain but AFTER Reeve:
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Gerard Christopher : Superboy (1989-1992) Pictures, Images and Photos
Gerard Christopher
They played Superboy in the late 80's and early 90's. The Salkinds were behind the show and I even read that they planned on RESUMING the Superman movies with Christopher. Furthermore, when "Lois and Clark" was cast, I read Christopher got the role as the producers were unaware of his stint on "Superboy" but once they found out, fired him because they didn't want any confusion.

Your article is spot on, but I think it should be taken a step further...Superman needs an overhaul in many aspects, because there are aspects of the story that are SO antiquated that they no longer transfer well to ANY kind of medium. Take for instance Jimmy Olson. The character doesn't fly as he is anymore. At least on Smallville he was made to be a bit less of an oddball. But in the movies he's so damn over the top it isn't even funny. Then there's the 1950's spitcurl, then there's the lame way he preserves his identity, then there's the CONSTANT pursuit of Lois. That love triangle is old, and has been done and redone so many damn times it's no longer watchable. In the last movie, Lois appeared to not even be a REDEEMABLE character. I mean, she didn't even notice Clark was gone? Or that he didn't come back? She seems to be an uber-bitch. Say what you want about Smallville, but at least it's a fresh take on the dynamic of Lois and Clark. Anyway, I hope that whoever takes the next stab at the franchise keeps all this in mind.
Shaman
Shaman - 6/23/2009, 9:04 AM
Thanks Durkin, and even though i might not be a fan of the show, i am a fan of where they took the characters in Smallville. I'd love for WB to continue on along that line and add even more evolution instead of using everything you just spelled out for us. It worked in the 80's, last time i checked, it was almost 30 years ago. Time to move on. As for Superboy, i never got to watch that series which is why i didn't mention it. Plus i really though it was Superboy and not a young Superman. So i didn't see the link really. That Newton guy looks like a young Adrian Pasdar doesn't he LOL :P
hawkngo
hawkngo - 6/24/2009, 12:10 AM
WB is gone its CW
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 6/24/2009, 10:36 AM
NP Shaman...it's actually kinda funny watching "Superboy" clips on Youtube. One of the opening sequences had Supes fly around a bridge, and it's actually a bridge right here in Tampa, so I thought that was cool. I think the second guy to portray Superboy was actually 33 when he got the part which is pretty damn funny considering Christopher Reeve was 24 when he got the part. Is Supes your favorite Shaman? BTW it sux that you had to point out that the 1980's was nearly 30 years ago since I was born in '81! Dammit I never thought time would really catch up to me:p
TheDurkinKnight
TheDurkinKnight - 6/24/2009, 10:36 AM
NP Shaman...it's actually kinda funny watching "Superboy" clips on Youtube. One of the opening sequences had Supes fly around a bridge, and it's actually a bridge right here in Tampa, so I thought that was cool. I think the second guy to portray Superboy was actually 33 when he got the part which is pretty damn funny considering Christopher Reeve was 24 when he got the part. Is Supes your favorite Shaman? BTW it sux that you had to point out that the 1980's was nearly 30 years ago since I was born in '81! Dammit I never thought time would really catch up to me:p
Shaman
Shaman - 6/24/2009, 2:23 PM
That is odd actually come to think of it...

No Supes isn't my favorite in fact i never liked his comics. I did enjoy all the movies and the Lois & Clark shows though. I always find Superman better when he's with another hero. When he's alone with Lois and Lex, he's just a bit flat for me.
soldier1
soldier1 - 7/2/2009, 2:55 PM
Shaman,
I toltally agree with your article dude. Today's generation is just way too different from what it was 20years ago. In my opinion, Brandon Routh was a very good candidate for the "new" Superman though the story line COULD have been better. If you watch Superman Returns and the older movies, you can plainly see the same formula in all movies. Flying, being plotted against by Lex, and of course a Major city chaos scenario towards the end of the movie where Superman fixes everything. Also on Tom Welling. I think his portrayal of clark kent is very well done. Let's be honest, if they took a Superboy/Clark Kent 80s portrayal and put it in a show these days, how many fans would take that scenario seriously. Afterall, how many actors on television these days can be taken seriously wearing big bulgy dark framed glasses??? Don't shoot the writers, Don't kill the producers, and don't blame the directors, this is a new time and DEFINATELY a new generation!!! You have to atleast give them props for trying to keep this new era as close to the originals as possible.
DEUCES!!
Shaman
Shaman - 7/3/2009, 12:55 PM
soldier1- Very good point!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/3/2009, 1:54 PM
Damn, i missed this one!

Nice work SHAMAN @! Great article!!! ; )

Very interesting dude!

I still want DOOMSDAY on the big screen though lol! But i luv the pick for ZOD and SUPERGIRL!!! ; )

Nicely done!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 7/3/2009, 1:56 PM
P.s. I'll give you the thumbs up even if this lazy lot don't lol! Jokin' guys!

Oh yeah, an SUPERBOY apart from the name isn't SUPERMAN.
Shaman
Shaman - 7/3/2009, 2:01 PM
That's what i had though too LEEE. Glad you confirm :)

Thanks for the comment and i also agree in saying that Doomsday NEEDS to be brought to the big screen!!! BUT, i feel Sups might need a few (one or two) adventures before he bites the big one. Hense ZOD :))
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 7/3/2009, 4:09 PM
No Lex as a landscaping tycoon,your choices are perfect,lex works in background as the owner of luthor corp
doomsday,darkseid,zod,brainiac,metallo,parasite,mongul
supes reboot movies
brandon routh-supes
malin ackerman-lois
billy zane-lex
doomsday-cgi
micheal ironside's voice w/cgi-darkseid
brian austin green-metallo
doug jones-parasite(justice)
micheal c hall-orion
1st-villians-lex,metallo,parasite
2nd-zod,brainiac
3rd-doomsday,cyborg supes
4th-darkseid,mongul
BLADE4040
BLADE4040 - 7/3/2009, 5:31 PM
Great article really...but as far as Im concerned I never really liked Reeves's Superman although I must admit the first one in 1978 I did. It wasnt so much about Reeves for me as it was the special effects and how close to the original story that they brought to the screen. I really didnt like his Clark(way to silly)you did cover that.. I understand but didnt like it. The fight scenes were terrible he looked really awkward probally had alot to do with the wiring. After the first one it went down hill... RAPIDLY not all REEVES fault Im still waiting for a GOOD Superman movie...lets keep Routh HE'S GOOD just need a 1978 storyline somewhat with better villians.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 7/3/2009, 8:50 PM
I hate Superman. But Shaman, your the man. Actually, knowing how much I loathe the character, you should feel flattered that I read this based solely on who the writer is :) Interesting read. Again, I hate Superman.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 7/4/2009, 4:51 AM
Myth - Try to think of Superman as the Justice Leagues Cyclops. He's a golden boy goody two shoes but he is needed. I've always seen him as the ultimate super hero but never the coolest. Put it this way, given the choice of all comic heroes, I'd have his powers but I wouldn't BE him.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 7/4/2009, 12:53 PM
Howlett, I came to a realization long ago that it is really just me who fails to see what makes Superman such a great character. I just have issues with overpowered characters. I feel the same way about the Sentry and a few others. With Supes though, what piss's me off most about him is that when he was originally created he wasn't half as powerful as he is today. Matter of fact, it was something like 3-4 years after his creation that new writers got a hold of the character and just started adding more powers to him until he was completely unstoppable. The guys who created him didn't give him flight, superbreath, or laser vision, and heavy ordinance was a worry for him.

Now, naturally, characters are supposed to evolve, and many times this involves their powers amplifying to some level. Pheonix would be a good example. Her powers grew and amplified ofver the course of many years with backstory setting it up. With Supes, it was like the writer's (in mid 1940's) just awoke that morning saying, "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if this guy shot laser beams from his eyes." There was literally NO time spent developing or explaining these new abilities of his.

Don't mistake this as an anti-Supes rant, not entirely anyway :), as I do respect the character tremendously, I just don't like him. Superman has spawned countless legions of devout comic fans, for which I am incredibly grateful. Hell, you can even credit him with a great deal in terms of getting the entire concept of comic books off the ground. Supes is an immortal image, and people in 3rd world countries who wipe their ass with straw know who he is. I just admire the more realistic characters who have incredibly human problems and aspects to them, something I feel Marvel U captures better than any other publisher.

Good Job on trying to bait me with my own favorite superheroes though Howlett. And to Shaman, I hope you don't think I'm trying to soil this post with negative crap, this is just my view of the character.
Shaman
Shaman - 7/5/2009, 7:11 PM
A quick word to say thanks to all you guys :)

NewAvenger4- Not bad pics there.

BLADE4040- Great point about how close they stayed to the comic on the first film. I don't know how the studios ever got to make CBMs wrong after that blueprint.

Myth, damn... i do feel very honored cause i'm totally aware of you're hatered LOL But great points none the less. Now the very reason you hate him could also be cause of the same fact that no decent film of his was ever made. His comics IMO kinda suck and have "been there, done that" written all over them!!! The only other exposure he gets is in a teen show which seems to spiral down to stupidity. So really, all he's got going for him is... his red panties right now. What i like about Superman(which Cyclops will never have) is "the promise" he carries with his concept. The promise of an epic film. This character has so much debth that has been raped throughout decades which kinda makes him... useless and unapealing. WE KNOW... that he could be much much more and yet, he gets beaten by a regular joe in tights with bat ears stuck to his cowl. When i look at Superman, i feel ashamed as if he was a bum teen wasting his life after i spent the better part of mine, trying to teach him otherwise. But yet... i love him cause, i just don't know why. I still cross my fingers when i hear about the big S. But right now, things are looking up for his yonger brother Hal/GL. I don't know if i'll ever see the day where i can actually be proud of being a Sups fan. I guess things could be worse... thank god i'm not a fan of Captain Marvel LOL :P

Teabag- You never know... Could be another unknown that will totally suck or rock. IMO, Routh was fine.
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 7/6/2009, 5:42 PM
i know that nic cage LOVES superman, and i'm definitely not for him portraying supes, but i wonder what he'd do if he directed one.
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 7/6/2009, 5:47 PM
and BTW, good article. Give Kevin Smith a shot at writing a script with no Jon Peters looking over his shoulders. That should do it.
Shaman
Shaman - 7/7/2009, 8:44 AM
Oooohh, yeah. Kevin's a good one :)) I think he could write a very decent script!!! And maybe Cage would be better suited behind the camera. Good call.
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