Nicolas Cage Comments On His Much-Discussed Superman Cameo In THE FLASH: "I Did Not Do That"

Nicolas Cage Comments On His Much-Discussed Superman Cameo In THE FLASH: "I Did Not Do That"

Nicolas Cage has previously confirmed that he was on set to film his scene as Superman for The Flash, but the sequence he shot was actually different to what ended up on the screen...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 01, 2023 11:11 PM EST
Filed Under: The Flash

The Flash was a highly divisive movie on several levels, but the most talked about (and lambasted) aspect of the Scarlet Speedster's first solo outing had to be the "Chrono-Bowl" CGI cameos.

When the younger Barry Allen (Ezra Miller) begins to repeatedly rest the timeline in an attempt to save Batman and Supergirl, the Multiverse begins the break apart, and we get a glimpse into various other realities, one of which features Nicolas Cage as Superman doing battle with giant robot spider.

Cage, who was cast as the Man of Steel in Tim Burton's Superman Lives back in the day, has previously revealed that he was on set to film the scene, even though his character - along with the rest of the heroes and villains that appeared - looked like a completely CG creation.

During a new interview with Yahoo!, Cage once again made it clear that he did physically shoot something for the movie, but the original idea for his role was very different to what ended up on screen.

“They did put a lot of time into building the suit, and I think [Andy] is a terrific director, he is a great guy and a great director, and I loved his two It movies. What I was supposed to do was literally just be standing in an alternate dimension, if you will, and witnessing the destruction of the universe. Kal-El was bearing witness [to] the end of a universe, and you can imagine with that short amount of time that I had, what that would mean in terms of what I can convey. I had no dialogue [so had to] convey with my eyes the emotion. So that’s what I did. I was on set for maybe three hours.”

We did get a brief close-up of Cage's Superman as he surveyed the damage (how much emotion registered in his eyes is up for debate), but then it was giant spider time!

“When I went to the picture, it was me fighting a giant spider. I did not do that. That was not what I did. I don’t think it was [created by] AI. I know Tim is upset about AI, as I am. It was CGI, OK, so that they could de-age me, and I’m fighting a spider. I didn’t do any of that, so I don’t know what happened there. But I get where Tim's coming from. I know what he means. I would be very unhappy if people were taking my art and appropriating them. I get it. I mean, I’m with him in that regard. AI is a nightmare to me. It’s inhumane. You can’t get more inhumane than artificial intelligence.

“But I don't think it [was] AI [in The Flash]," he went on. "I just think that they did something with it, and again, it’s out of my control. I literally went to shoot a scene for maybe an hour in the suit, looking at the destruction of a universe and trying to convey the feelings of loss and sadness and terror in my eyes. That’s all I did.”

What did you make of Cage's Superman scene in The Flash? Drop us a comment down below.

"Directed by Andy Muschietti, The Flash features Barry Allen traveling back in time in order to change events of the past. But when his attempt to save his family inadvertently alters the future, Barry becomes trapped in a reality in which General Zod has returned, threatening annihilation, and there are no Super Heroes to help. That is, unless Barry can coax a very different Batman out of retirement and rescue an imprisoned Kryptonian…albeit not the one he’s looking for.

Ultimately, to save the world that he is in and return to the future that he knows, Barry’s only hope is to race for his life. But will making the ultimate sacrifice be enough to reset the universe?"

The Flash is produced by Barbara Muschietti and Michael Disco, with a screenplay by Christina Hodson, and a screen story by John Francis Daley & Jonathan Goldstein and Joby Harold, based on characters from DC. Warner Bros. Pictures presents a Double Dream/a Disco Factory production of an Andy Muschietti film.

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SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 11/1/2023, 11:04 PM
If studios are willing to use A.I to replicate humans and eliminate writers and artists. Imagine what corporations will be willing to do to cut costs and eliminate payroll using an AI. Imagine if customer service representatives for your vacation planning or travel is an AI. Imagine if an AI is your doctor. There are so many bad avenues that AI can thrive in. Fraud and blackmail are also dangerous avenues.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/1/2023, 11:11 PM
@SonOfAGif - There’s no way to completely shut it down. Just like with nukes, the cat is out of the bag now.

We can choose what companies to give our money to.

We can use AI in our lives to benefit ourselves.

And we can be savvy and avoid the malicious uses of it.

Or we get destroyed by it.

Who knows? But it’s not going away.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 11/1/2023, 11:11 PM
@SonOfAGif - As far as customer service call center people go, most of those jobs have already been "outsourced" to 3rd world countries.

As someone who used to work in factories, I can tell you eventually ALL of these jobs will be replaced by automation or robotics.

"Your" politicans sold you out many years ago and will continue to do so. All the jobs they took from you and gave to the 3rd world will eventually be replaced by robotics, a.i. and automation.

You WILL be replaced.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/1/2023, 11:31 PM
@SonOfAGif -


If you watched the last south park episode, you will be ok if you can do manual/ trade labor.


Follow south park prophecy 😳
Knightrider
Knightrider - 11/2/2023, 12:30 AM
@SonOfAGif - The one thing that they’d never replace is themselves. They will speak about how great it is, but always make the excuse that we need a human, who’ll be the highest earner, at the top.
If a company wants to use AI, sure go for it, but it should be forced replace from the top.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/2/2023, 6:37 AM
@SonOfAGif - Corporations have already proven the lengths they are willing to go. Maybe not yet with AI, but many stores in America have begun using self-checkout lines so they don't have to hire actual workers to ring up your purchases. Wal-Mart, one of the biggest chains in America, have begun removing ALL of the normal checkout lines except for 1 and replaced them with self-checkout. I have two Wal-Marts near me and they have both don't this. You think they lowered their prices now that they are spending less on labor? Absolutely not.

On the customer service side companies have had automated phone lines for a very long time now. But, more recently (within the last decade maybe?) some companies have started charging a fee to actually request to speak with a live agent. I pay all my bills over the phone and they all have an automated bill pay system. And more than one of them charge a fee if you request to pay over the phone with a representative.

I know neither of those examples of AI. But if they were doing things like this with normal technology, just imagine what they will be willing to do to earn more money once they get their hands on technology that can actually make decisions on the fly.
malschla
malschla - 11/2/2023, 7:58 AM
@SonOfAGif - Umm… I had to break it to you, but that is already the case.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 11/2/2023, 10:07 AM
@SonOfAGif - AI today is not the traditional AI we all think of. It's LLM, and predictive language data models. It degenerates, it hallucinate, and it's confidently wrong like 20 percent of the time. And it's data models are trained on data years ago.

AI models, depending on your field, can cost money rather than save you money. And when it comes to the creative field, while AI is good at visual art because it's more surface level data oriented, but it's horrible for writing.

Much like cryptocurrency, althought it is more useful the AI hype will fade and companies will realize that the end of the day they aren't smarter than skilled human beings.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/1/2023, 11:08 PM
The CGI cameos at the end of the movie were f*ckin shit.

Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/1/2023, 11:19 PM
@marvel72 - surely they can't even be considered 'cameos' if they didn't actually film it there or even have any dialogue. It's BS
SirDuckAlot
SirDuckAlot - 11/1/2023, 11:09 PM
Looked like absolute shit
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 11/1/2023, 11:09 PM
I hope they release a bts image of him on set one day.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/1/2023, 11:16 PM
Man that CGI looked shitty
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 11/1/2023, 11:23 PM
AI, CGI...it doesn't matter. They still took your image and made "you" do something that you didn't actually do. So he'll defend CGI fakery but not AI fakery. What's the difference? I don't see one in the grand scheme of things
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 11/2/2023, 6:42 AM
@TheShape9859 - I see your point. But on the other side, it depends on how the CGI is used. There are obviously a lot of movies by now with full CGI characters. But in most cases, the actors are at least doing the voice, or their faces or body movements are being scanned and used.

No one ever seemed to care much about it other than complaining that practical effects look better on-screen.

But you raise an interesting point.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 11/2/2023, 9:58 AM
@TheShape9859 - AI is automated, CGI is done by artists for the most part. CGI has been around for a long time, so there's no equating it to the landscape of LLM today.
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 11/2/2023, 1:13 PM
@EgoEgor - same thing... CGI made Nic Cage do something he didn't actually do. If you're gonna be against one, be against both. AI amd CGI could have accomplished the exact same thing in this situation
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 11/2/2023, 1:20 PM
@TheShape9859 - that's like saying digital art and AI art is the same. One is made by computer the other by artists using computer programs. AI is prompt based, it's based on alignment. CGI uses AI but it isn't AI as we know it, you still need artists.
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 11/2/2023, 6:55 PM
@EgoEgor - they still made an actors likeness do something they didn't actually do. Same thing as AI regardless of whether it was created by a prompt or not. Cage didn't fight a giant spider...they manipulated his likeness.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 11/1/2023, 11:30 PM
The flash had the worst CGI for any modern blockbuster in the last 10 years. It was embarrassing.😅
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 11/2/2023, 1:17 AM
So they did bring him in at least to do that. Yet for Jay Garrick they used their own editor to create an AI Jay Garrick than calling for John Wesley Shipp himself.

I got nothing against Muschietti but...wtf man. ._.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/2/2023, 3:03 AM
So he did do that. The title makes it sound like he didn't do the cameo at all, when it was just fighting the spider that he did not do
LSHF
LSHF - 11/2/2023, 6:25 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Yes, these titles sometimes also exaggerate and even lie. Shitty journalism.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 11/2/2023, 3:36 AM
Took me ages to figure out who he meant by Tim.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 11/2/2023, 5:00 AM
I can assure you that there are more inhumane things happening in the world, Nic.
ZomZom
ZomZom - 11/2/2023, 5:21 AM
The danger comes when we get too lazy to police AI and we rely on another AI to monitor it's activities. Artificial Intelligence's impact on the human race is already very real. Conservative estimates predict AI impacting 80% of office roles by 2025. That's impacting not benefitting. Unless we get on top of it now it will change the entire employment and commerce landscape of the Western World. The thin line between it's ability to elevate and destroy is terrifying. Oh and PS the Flash cameos were piss poor.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 11/2/2023, 5:26 AM
I can’t help but smile because I can’t read a quote from the great Nic Cage without hearing it in his voice.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 11/2/2023, 5:45 AM
And here I finally thought I forgot about that terrible film but…
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/2/2023, 10:03 AM
@AnthonyVonGeek - thumbs up for the classic Seinfeld reference. thank you sir
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 11/2/2023, 8:00 AM
I feel bad for him because they absolutely did use AI and CG with all of those scenes.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 11/2/2023, 8:15 AM
Imagine how you'd feel if even the guy who starred in Deadfall was distancing himself from your product.
smudgewhat2
smudgewhat2 - 11/2/2023, 1:39 PM
The Flash was great. Of course they used CGI to have him fight the spider. How else would you do it? How much of every superhero is CGI anyway? He ACTED in the movie. That's him in the scene looking at the realities collide. What more do you nerds want?
dragon316
dragon316 - 11/2/2023, 4:05 PM
I like cameos but people saying cgi look like crap I’m no paid movie critic I can’t comment what’s good and bad no one pays me reviews I don’t review movies if I’m not getting would anyone like unload truck with 3000 plus boxes for free same as review movie not get paid for it
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