Marc Guggenheim Takes Us Behind The Scenes Of "The Offer" In New ARROW Featurette

Marc Guggenheim Takes Us Behind The Scenes Of "The Offer" In New ARROW Featurette

Featuring new footage from this Wednesday's episode of Arrow, executive producer Marc Guggenheim talks here about what we should expect to see following Ra's al Ghul's shocking offer to Oliver Queen. It looks like Starling City is about to become a very different place, that's for sure...

By JoshWilding - Mar 16, 2015 08:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Arrow
DC COMICS’ VILLAIN MURMUR SWEEPS INTO STARLING CITY — Still weighed down by his last meeting with Ra’s al Ghul (guest star Matt Nable), Oliver (Stephen Amell) returns home to find a new villain and his crew have started terrorizing Starling City – Michael Amar AKA Murmur (guest star Adrian Glynn McMorran), a man whose mouth has been sewn shut.  Meanwhile, Laurel (Katie Cassidy) and Nyssa (guest star Katrina Law) bond over their issues with their fathers and Nyssa make Laurel an offer. Thea (Willa Holland) is forced to come to terms with her father after Oliver brings Malcom (John Barrowman) to the loft to recover, and Lance (Paul Blackthorne) shuts out both Laurel and the Arrow.  Dermott Downs directed the episode written by Beth Schwartz & Brian Ford Sullivan (#316). 


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superotherside
superotherside - 3/16/2015, 9:09 PM
So... Oliver Queen is basically Bruce Wayne of this reality.

MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 3/16/2015, 9:10 PM
@batmannightwingrobin

Agree with all three of your comments!
superotherside
superotherside - 3/16/2015, 9:15 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like Arrow but this is getting stupid. They adapt Batman's story and call it "new".

That's just lazy.

I was all for introducing Ra's but this isn't the problem. They could have had Oliver and Ra's have a interesting unique relationship, but instead they adapt a Batman story and make Oliver a Batman wannabe.

write33
write33 - 3/16/2015, 9:29 PM
if he's not qualified to save a city, how is he qualified to run a global assassin force.......ok whatever, I've been looking at job listings too much. I'll watch it.
TheDarkPassenger
TheDarkPassenger - 3/16/2015, 9:31 PM
You know...I got really excited for the rest of the season after seeing that promo of Lance going against Ollie for what happened to Sara.

Then I remembered this shit, which is still [frick]ing stupid.
Dukov
Dukov - 3/16/2015, 10:33 PM
A season to forget.
lukehero
lukehero - 3/16/2015, 11:11 PM
Honestly I hope he accepts the offer, at least for a little while. Because then that really would set him apart from Batman. Because Batman would NEVER accept the offer.
Cayo
Cayo - 3/17/2015, 12:18 AM
Why don't they just say "Head of the Demon"? They've said it before, but now they're using "Ras Al Ghul" as if that's a mantle of some sort. Head of the Demon is a mantle, Ras Al Ghul is just someone's name.
JasonBlue
JasonBlue - 3/17/2015, 5:45 AM
Arrow has become cringeworthy.
superotherside
superotherside - 3/17/2015, 6:01 AM
@GentlemanlyBatman Nope, it doesn't make it better at all. It's like having Iron Man get transported to WW2 to go fight the Red Skull. It just makes no sense.

You just can't defend lazy writing. And that's what it is. They should have made Oliver and Ra's relationship unique instead making Oliver, Bruce.

I want them to embrace Oliver, much like they did in the first season. What made the show cool in the first season was he was different than Batman. He was away on an island for five years, had a bow and arrow and even killed the bad people.

Now he's Batman in a green hoodie. That's just sad.
lambeauwade
lambeauwade - 3/17/2015, 6:17 AM
At least at the worst of times if this sucked and was tied into anything I would get it. Bad tone from the Nolan era of having to break down heroes that went stale. Now there is a group of people with assets and motives to be involved in these eps and no one thinks of these people who are growing into a super hero posse with eye makeup are fighting supernatural enemies with chin ups and arrows. The media that suspected that a rich troubled kid who was missing for years whose return coincided with a vigilante murder spree against people associated with his family that starts and stops with his sporadic appearances. That media now that he is dead yet is pretty recognizable can stay clear if he wears a hood and only gives a ray of light on the chin dimple that everyone knows is him. With a pack of known acquaintances wearing latex. Come on. Rather watch Skye act poorly on AOS because there is is at least more story.
jojofmd
jojofmd - 3/17/2015, 6:34 AM
I loved Season 1 and 2 but this storyline has been muddled and weak at best. At least last season there was a great looming threat and a hidden plot with great reveals. This season everything seems to be going from a snails pace one episode, to rushed with the next one. If they had done it right they would have built up Ras and the whole season and left the cliffhanger (get it) with him dead for the season finale.
superotherside
superotherside - 3/17/2015, 7:51 AM
@GentlemanlyBatman I agree that they ripped the tone a bit off of Nolan, but it was it's own thing. Having Slade train him etc. That was the cool part.

Gotham isn't really a Batman show it's a Jim Gordon show. So it's comparing peaches and apples. I have stopped watching it, I may catch up later though.

The problem with Arrow is it's starting to become a typical CW show. Lots of "romance" and idiotic plot lines that no one would do.

I mean, why would Oliver, go save Merlin and risk being caught and killed just to save his sister's "soul". Telling the League of Merlin's misdeeds is about is bad as testifying on a witness stand. Sure The stretched the truth a bit saying he killed her when Thea actually pulled the bow back but he was controlling her so... yeah. He still killed her. And so why does Oliver want to save him again?

Also why did Merlin want her dead anyway? Wasn't he in trouble with the League enough already? And if he loves his daughter, why would he make them be in more trouble by killing one of their members?

Sorry, but none of this season makes any sense.

If you can explain that to me please do so. Maybe I haven't been watching closely enough...
bse24
bse24 - 3/17/2015, 8:31 AM
@superotherside That episode when Diggle and him were captured he admited that Thea's soul wasnt the only reason he went to Nanda Parbat to rescue Merlyn, but that his pride was broken and he wanted to fight Ra's again. I can't remember the exact dialogue but something about the battlefield and being a soldier and yada yada. Oliver wants to keep Merlyn alive because he is his best chance to beating Ra's. Merlyn (or Thea) killed Sara because she was looking for him and he wanted to protect himself.
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 3/17/2015, 9:19 AM
@lambeauwade

"Rather watch Skye act poorly on AOS"

The girl's indeed terrible. Smokin' body, though.
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 3/17/2015, 9:26 AM
@batmannightwingrobin

Indeed. I think after this season is over, the overall episodic season will be better than the last and I am enjoying Ollie's story more this season season as well, because his breakdown began last season with the lost of Moira and with the first loss of his company. This is a complete identity crisis for Ollie to where he's not thinking he's not doing anything good as The Arrow when the truth is he is; just because he's not letting himself be Oliver Queen, he's just become completely lost with both identities.
superotherside
superotherside - 3/17/2015, 6:22 PM
bse24@ That explains it. I do remember that. It still doesn't seem like the character would to that though. IMO.

He only went there to kill Ra's because Thea was involved the first time. And even that didn't make much sense.

Because Merlin loves Thea. He would have never given her to Ra's so he would have never told. Oliver wouldn't and shouldn't care what happens to Merlin.

And now, he got beat by Ra's and killed, but he wants to go fight him again for nothing? To save a psychopath? Besides that Ra's is a "bad dude" Oliver has really no quarrel with him after Thea told them where Merlin was. She fixed it all actually.

Then they had to "create" a problem.

It's still kinda bad writing. Honestly it's on the level of AOS writing and that's pretty bad sometimes.

It's sad too, because Arrow was one of my favorite shows.

@GentlemanlyBatman Yeah, that does explain that too. Flash has been pretty good though. Besides the "drama".
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