Will DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Feature The Return Of Foggy Nelson And Karen Page?

Will DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Feature The Return Of Foggy Nelson And Karen Page?

A new rumour may finally shed some light on plans for Foggy Nelson and Karen Page in Daredevil: Born Again, while Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock looks set to have not one, but two love interests in the show.

By JoshWilding - Aug 16, 2023 05:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil
Source: Murphy's Multiverse

Daredevil: Born Again will be connected to Netflix's Daredevil, but it's become clear Marvel Studios won't be beholden to creative decisions made by Marvel Television.

That's evident from The Kingpin's power upgrade in Hawkeye, not to mention the fact Vanessa Fisk has been recast. Then, there's the small subject of Foggy Nelson and Karen Page. They were a significant part of the original series but all signs seemingly point to neither character appearing. 

According to Murphy's Multiverse, the rumour they won't appear in Daredevil: Born Again is "mostly true." Apparently, Foggy and Karen aren't expected to "have any significant screen time [as] their absence from the series is one of the opening arc's most important plot points."

The site seems confident that any scenes Elden Henson has shot as Foggy were likely for flashbacks or to explain his absence from Hell's Kitchen, but that may be speculative. What's clear is these characters won't be part of the show, a surprising decision on Marvel Studios' part, but one which should help avoid the 18-episode series from feeling like more of the same. 

No Karen means Matt Murdock will need a new love interest, of course, and it sounds like the lawyer will have two. 

Margarita Levieva will play Heather Glenn, while Nikki M. James has been tapped to star as Kirsten McDuffie. The former has only signed a one-season deal, suggesting she'll only be a short-term romantic partner, similar to Heather's comic book counterpart. 

We'll see what happens but Daredevil: Born Again is certainly shaping up to be an exciting take on the Man Without Fear's corner of the MCU. There are going to be elements from the Netflix series which are missing, and that will upset some, but a fresh start a la The Incredible Hulk is no bad thing.

Daredevil: Born Again is currently expected to premiere on Disney+ in 2024.

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Spawnnn
Spawnnn - 8/16/2023, 5:49 AM
Cant wait to see a watered down MCU Daredevil. Gonna be the best show of all time since She-Hulk.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/16/2023, 5:59 AM
@Spawnnn - Well it’s TVMA like that last series so we’ll see
Variant
Variant - 8/16/2023, 10:13 AM
@Spawnnn - This assumption will always be stupid.
The1st
The1st - 8/16/2023, 2:15 PM
@Variant - The best of all time anything is always stupid, but people need copium and who am I to take it from them?
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/16/2023, 5:58 AM
You can take or leave Karen, but they should explain Foggy’s absence.
Spike101
Spike101 - 8/16/2023, 6:13 AM
“ but a fresh start a la The Incredible Hulk is no bad thing.” but doing that to the Hulk was one of the worst things they could have done. As will be leaving Karen and Foggy aside.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/16/2023, 6:21 AM

Foggy and Karen were great.

These cheap mouse house bastards suck.

clintthahamster
clintthahamster - 8/16/2023, 6:48 AM
@DocSpock - IDK, I hear that "their absence from the series is one of the opening arc's most important plot points." I guess I'm willing to wait and see how it plays into the story.
theBlackSquare
theBlackSquare - 8/16/2023, 6:44 AM
I remember inhaling that first netflix season — truly great tv. I fear this will in no way measure up.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 8/16/2023, 7:03 AM
Foggy is essential to Daredevil mythos in my opinion, Karen I would also keep mostly cause Deborah is great.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 8/16/2023, 8:15 AM
@Urubrodi - agreed with this statement
Jaspion
Jaspion - 8/16/2023, 7:14 AM
I thought I've seen somewhere that the series was going to take place during the blip, so maybe both of them were "snapped"?
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 8/16/2023, 12:22 PM
@Jaspion - Its after the blip, the rumor came from the fact that Charlie filmed a scene near a church that had a 2020 date on it, but that's not a prop the show crew made, in real life the church never updated its signs since COVID,
The1st
The1st - 8/16/2023, 2:16 PM
@eagc1995 - Sounds about right
DiegoMD
DiegoMD - 8/16/2023, 7:15 AM
Oof. We're off to a horrible start!
Variant
Variant - 8/16/2023, 10:15 AM
@DiegoMD - These characters definitely didn't make or break the show. I think leaving them out actually has the potential to make the show better.
DiegoMD
DiegoMD - 8/16/2023, 10:46 AM
@Variant - You're the guy from Variant Comics?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/16/2023, 7:23 AM
"but a fresh start a la The Incredible Hulk is no bad thing."

In the context of this, is that so?
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 8/16/2023, 7:34 AM
Best not to make new viewers feel like they need to watch 30+ hours of Netflix before checking out the new show.

Also, as a reminder, some of the Netflix content was god awful, Hand-related Daredevil stuff included.
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/16/2023, 8:47 AM
Foggy I found annoying, Karen I found hot, she can return.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 8/16/2023, 12:15 PM
The revisionist history around these parts would make you think people weren’t sick of both of those characters
Timerider
Timerider - 8/16/2023, 12:36 PM
I wonder if She Hulk will make a visit to NY, help catch the bad guy maybe
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 8/16/2023, 7:58 PM
Their opening arc then better be nailed because if not it'll just turn off half the fandom.

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