ECHO First Social Media Reactions Land Ahead Of Tomorrow's Disney+ Premiere

ECHO First Social Media Reactions Land Ahead Of Tomorrow's Disney+ Premiere

All five episodes of Marvel Studios' Echo will be available to stream on Disney+ from tomorrow, and the social media reaction embargo has now lifted...

By MarkCassidy - Jan 08, 2024 11:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Echo

The embargo has lifted on social media reaction to Echo, and those who have been lucky enough to catch an early look at the first three episodes of Marvel Studios' Hawkeye spin-off series have been sharing their verdicts online.

Based on the posts we've seen so far, we'd say the show is getting something of a mixed-positive response. Star Alaqua Cox has come in for a lot of praise, and most seem to feel that the action sequences benefit from the TV-MA rating.

Not everyone was won over, however.

Several critics have noted that the editing is a little choppy in places, and the story can be meandering/unfocused. Echo is also referred to as a "K-Mart representation of what the Netflix shows were."

We're still updating as more reactions come in, but you can have a read through what we have so far below. Full reviews drop tomorrow to coincide with the premiere (make of that what you will).

Echo will be the first project under a new banner known as Marvel Spotlight, which takes its name from an anthology comic book series that debuted back in 1971 and was the origin of beloved Marvel characters like Ghost Rider and Spider-Woman.

“Marvel Spotlight gives us a platform to bring more grounded, character-driven stories to the screen, and in the case of Echo, focusing on street-level stakes over larger MCU continuity," said Head of Streaming Brad Winderbaum. "Just like comics fans didn’t need to read Avengers or Fantastic Four to enjoy a Ghost Rider Spotlight comic, our audience doesn’t need to have seen other Marvel series to understand what’s happening in Maya’s story.”

"Marvel Studios presents Echo in which Maya Lopez (Alaqua Cox) struggles to reconnect with her Native American roots while balancing aspirations tied to a life of crime as successor to the brutal legacy of Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) aka Kingpin," reads the most recent synopsis. "In the first episode, we are introduced to Maya Lopez and her struggles."

In addition to Cox, D'Onofrio and Cox (Charlie), the show will also star Chaske Spencer as Henry, Tantoo Cardinal as Chula, Graham Greene as Skully, Cody Lightning as Cousin Biscuits, Devery Jacobs as Bonnie, and Zahn McClarnon as William Lopez.

The origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez (Cox), whose ruthless behaviour in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.

All five episodes of Echo will be available to stream on Disney+ from January 9.

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URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 1/8/2024, 11:51 PM
Let's hope it's a triumph and also stunning and brave.
MG0019
MG0019 - 1/9/2024, 1:50 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - Oh it represents [insert nationality] so it can’t be mocked or heavily criticized.

I’ve never needed my fictional characters to be of my ethnicity or nationality for me to love them. Likewise, any time media does try to “represent,” it always comes off stereotypical, pandering, and honestly racist. Why not just make the character the character and if they happen to be [x] nationality, great. Instead they feel the need to shoehorn in racist tropes; and marketing aimed at glorifying their inclusion. My ethnicity is not a commodity.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 1/9/2024, 3:43 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - well there certainly will be braves in it
cubrn
cubrn - 1/9/2024, 3:55 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - Lets hope you finally make a girl ooze even just the slightest bit of moisture from their nether regions.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 1/9/2024, 3:58 AM
@MG0019 - I think certainly it’s often true that Hollywood’s version of representation is just treating it like a commodity and shaving down anything interesting until it fits in a nice neat square, but it’s also an overstatement to say that this is ALWAYS the case. The Boys making A-Train black has led to some of the most poignant stuff in the series. I think that shifting Namor’s origin led to some interesting stuff. It definitely happens. That said, some of the stuff with Echo seems to be going the other way (the costume, the stereotype-y powers). Still, I think the practice itself has some merit, and that should be separated from the times a corporate entity does actually just do something half-assed for diversity points.
DevilsDreams
DevilsDreams - 1/9/2024, 4:07 AM
@MG0019 - You mean like when Star Wars introduced the Latina sisters, Trace and Rafa, and the first thing they did was go off and be drug mules?
Origame
Origame - 1/9/2024, 5:10 AM
@OmegaBlack13 - ok, a train is a terrible example. He only works because it's a direct commentary on how Hollywood treats minorities. That a train can't actually do any real good for his community because he's a cog in a soulless corporate machine that sees his race as just something to profit from.

Also, namor sucked.
Origame
Origame - 1/9/2024, 8:33 AM
@cubrn - oh look. It's ms daddyissues.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/8/2024, 11:51 PM

I will form my own opinions.

I am still very amped for this.

MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/9/2024, 8:28 AM
@DocSpock - same here my man
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/9/2024, 1:26 PM
@DocSpock - Likewise. I felt like Daredevil on Netflix was excellent but Luke Cage and Iron Fist came off as low budget versions of what Daredevil set out to be. The Punisher was a return to form but The Defenders felt and was written like a CW show. People praise the Netflix shows but really mean Daredevil because even Jessica Jones was a mess and uninteresting at times.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/9/2024, 1:42 PM
@SonOfAGif -

True. I really liked Netflix Daredevil a lot. I thought season 1 of Jessica Jones was great, but it was horrible after that. Punisher was good at times. The rest didn't do anything for me.

SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/9/2024, 2:47 PM
@DocSpock - I really loved The Punisher for what it was. A brutal story set in NY with some decent twists.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/8/2024, 11:54 PM
Bring on Deadpool 3
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 1/8/2024, 11:58 PM
K-Mart version of the Netflix shows? Ouch
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/9/2024, 12:02 AM
Some gave great some good some bad. That’s definitely mixed but still giving reviews for 60% of anything is crazy to me
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/9/2024, 12:09 AM
I’m not down on the Disney plus shows like everyone else is but I will say the whole movie broken up into a show critique is real.

The shows flow so much better when you watch them together because of that. I found falcon and the winter soldier great upon rewatch for example because of this.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/9/2024, 12:11 AM
Also lol stop waiting until the last episode to give them a costume. If this happens in echo I’m a be so mad
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/9/2024, 1:19 AM
@MyCoolYoung - yeah these shows are clearly broken up movie scripts, covid forced their hand into making content. The result has been a roller coaster lol
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/9/2024, 1:32 AM
@bobevanz - lol hopefully it gets better and more fluid from here
LSHF
LSHF - 1/9/2024, 6:51 AM
@MyCoolYoung - I agree. The rewatches are usually better.
BassMan
BassMan - 1/9/2024, 7:09 AM
@MyCoolYoung - Watching the whole series at once has benefited almost every Disney Plus show I’ve watched, that extends to the Star Wars shows as well. When there’s a weak episode, it doesn’t drag the series down when that’s the only thing you’ve got out of the show for two weeks.
StSteven
StSteven - 1/9/2024, 1:50 PM
@MyCoolYoung @bobevanz - Unless I'm mistaken, I believe that "Echo" was written before Marvel decided to change how they are approaching the TV shows (i.e. one long movie chopped up) which happened half-way through "DD:BA", so it would make sense that it followed the old format. Which would also help explain why Marvel is releasing the whole series at once. I'm not sure when "Agatha: Whatever We're Calling This on a Tuesday" will fall into the same category as "Echo" (as far as the format goes), but at least we know that "DD:BA" will be the new format, and that's the one that really counts for me.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/9/2024, 3:26 PM
@StSteven - definitely. I think you hit the nail on the head. All the more chaotic Covid productions were the first few shows. I feel like echo is in the midst of that as well but also she’s before the change in formats
StSteven
StSteven - 1/9/2024, 4:42 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Yeah, and I'm not trying to be a Marvel apologist or anything, but they just had a bunch of challenges to deal with all at the same time:

(1) Launching a new streaming platform in general
(2) Attempting to approach the shows like they had been with the movies
(3) COVID (which led to the shows pretty much being developed independently from each other resulting in a lack of connectivity)
(4) The push for shitloads of content ASAP (mainly from Chapek)which, among other things, led to Feige being stretched too thin to be able to have a lot of visibility and control of what was being put out
(5) The extremely high expectations put upon them coming out of the Infinity Saga
(6) The need to introduce new characters (that hopefully fans would fall in love with) while retiring existing fan-favorites

On the plus side, the major thing that they had was the good will and popularity coming out of the IS. So looking at that list, some of that was out of their control, some of it was squarely within their control, and it seems like they're aware of what they should have done differently and they've made moves to correct what they can: they've now learned the do's and don't's of running a streaming platform; they're changing the TV show format; COVID isn't really an issue anymore; and Chapek's gone, Iger's back, and they've been very vocal about returning to quality over quantity. Hopefully those changes will help them address the last 2 points there.

But overall, like all things, only time will tell. Folks have to remember, though, that regardless of how good or bad "echo" and the next couple of projects coming are, they're still coming out of that original situation described above. I think that the first real tests of Marvel's revamped approach to the MCU in general will be "DP3" and "DD:BA", so while I'll be rooting for anything that comes before it to be good, I'll be understanding if it still suffers from some of the above challenges.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/9/2024, 12:07 AM
Half cooked, social media reactions are becoming the new RT scores
Jefferys
Jefferys - 1/9/2024, 12:27 AM
@GhostDog - I was thinking the same thing. I loved how going through them all they literally still don't say anything, they're like news headline articles.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 1/9/2024, 12:07 AM
That review talking about the nostalgia of staying up for the Defenders/Netflix shows is spot on to me.

Can't wait.

Matador
Matador - 1/9/2024, 9:38 AM
@NinnesMBC -

OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 1/9/2024, 12:13 AM
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/9/2024, 12:15 AM
Some of us knew from the start this was going to be bad.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 1/9/2024, 1:02 AM
@marvel72 - but but but the trailers were great 🙃
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