Knull Co-Creator Donny Cates Has Read VENOM: THE LAST DANCE's Script; Teases Sony's Plans For Villain

Knull Co-Creator Donny Cates Has Read VENOM: THE LAST DANCE's Script; Teases Sony's Plans For Villain

The final trailer for Venom: The Last Dance confirmed that Knull, God of the Symbiotes, will make an appearance and the villain's co-creator Donny Cates has today shared some intriguing new intel...

By JoshWilding - Sep 15, 2024 07:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Venom

While the Venom movies have always drawn something of a mixed response from fans, it appears Sony Pictures is going all out with the upcoming threequel, Venom: The Last Dance

That's evident from the presence of Knull, God of the Symbiotes, in the recently released final trailer. It's since been reported that Spider-Man 4 will see Peter Parker and Eddie Brock team up to battle the villain, suggesting this movie is meant to serve as little more than an introduction for him.

However, Knull's co-creator Donny Cates has now broken his silence on his inclusion in Venom: The Last Dance, hinting that the King in Black and Venom will end up going one-on-one. 

"[There's] a movie being made where a character that [Ryan Stegman] and I created is fighting a character [Todd McFarlane] created," Cates started before noting, "I’ve been talking with Sony and I read a script for [Venom: The Last Dance, and I’ll say this; it is so much bigger, and so much more ambitious than you can imagine."

Once again addressing Knull's role in proceedings, Cates added, "And, um...Knull. Holy shit. That’s how you treat a king."

While Cates has likely been compensated for his co-creation appearing in Venom: The Last Dance, that doesn't mean he needed to share praise like this on social media so the fact he's happy with Knull's portrayal...well, that's exciting, to say the least. 

Check out his and Stegman's Venom: The Last Dance comments below.

In Venom: The Last Dance, Tom Hardy returns as Venom, one of Marvel's greatest and most complex characters, for the final film in the trilogy. Eddie and Venom are on the run. Hunted by both of their worlds and with the net closing in, the duo are forced into a devastating decision that will bring the curtains down on Venom and Eddie's last dance.

The movie stars Tom Hardy, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Juno Temple, Peggy Lu, Alanna Ubach, Stephen Graham, and Rhys Ifans. Kelly Marcel directs from a screenplay she wrote, based on a story by Hardy and Marcel. The film is produced by Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, Amy Pascal, Kelly Marcel, Tom Hardy and Hutch Parker.

Venom: The Last Dance will be released in theaters on October 25.

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S8R8M
S8R8M - 9/15/2024, 8:01 AM
Yeah that's not enough for me to go see it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/15/2024, 8:05 AM
Well , atleast he’s happy with the apparent portrayal of Knull so that’s cool…

The movie definitely seems atleast bigger and more ambitious then the previous 2 but it being apparently moreso then that even intrigues me a bit.

This take on Eddie Brock/Venom hasn’t really worked for me thus far but I do hope this movie turns out well for the people that have enjoyed it.

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IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 9/15/2024, 8:17 AM
The Spider-Man 4 rumor is ridiculous as hell. Tom Hardy getting just a cameo in No Way Home was surely dissaponting, but suggesting this villain will go on to play any sort of substantial part in the MCU now that we're gearing into the 3rd Act of The Multiverse Saga is just stupid.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/15/2024, 8:30 AM
@IAmAHoot - I hope so

I still would love if the rumors we have gotten turn out to be BS and it just ends up being a street level story but that might be a bit if a long shot now
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 9/15/2024, 1:58 PM
@IAmAHoot - I wouldn't be surprised if Sony knows their Cinematic Universe is not long for this world, so they want to use SM4 to serve as the crossover between Tom Holland Spidey and their universe that they have long been teasing in interviews since Homecoming and the first Venom
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 9/15/2024, 5:08 PM
@eagc1995 - I can absolutely see Sony wanting to continue to bridge the gap, especially with their only character that has had success in his own franchise. People would be happy to see Tom Hardy in another MCU movie or two. But the villain Knull playing any part in the climax of The Multiverse Saga is just nonsnsical, especially now that they already have to shift major plans to introduce Doctor Doom, replacing th main bad they'd been building and planning for years. Feige now is supposed to fold in this Sony universe villain (whois not a big deal to the vast majority) in a substantial way? Ridiculous.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 9/16/2024, 3:36 PM
@IAmAHoot - Yeah, but if we are honest i highly doubt Sony cares about that, they just want their crossover
Fares
Fares - 9/15/2024, 8:20 AM
Well this gives me a tiny bit of hope.

Knowing how trailers usually go for Sony Spider-Man villain movies, I assumed Knull was just trailer bait and he'll have nothing to actually do in the movie.

That could still be the case, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/15/2024, 8:36 AM
@Fares - he does say he read A script , not the final one so maybe he might just be in a post credits scene now or something but yeah , hopefully not if they are gonna build him so much
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 9/15/2024, 11:27 AM
@Fares - Watch, he’s just in the intro to the film to describe the threat coming that has nothing to do with him.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/15/2024, 8:57 AM
Another Sony movie. Another teased connection to Spider-Man.

The only thing that makes me think the rumors could be legit this time is that Sony has been trying to take over Spider-Man 4 creatively.
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MisterBones
MisterBones - 9/15/2024, 9:07 AM
Those are the words of a man who’s been paid
SummersClan
SummersClan - 9/15/2024, 9:12 AM
Glad Cates is satisfied his character was faithfully adapted, but I didn’t really like the character he created so it makes no difference to me.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/15/2024, 9:44 AM
@SummersClan - I enjoy him design & personality wise though there’s not much depth there

However he was maybe given too much importance with him being behind Knowhere and such too.

I didn’t mind the backstory retcon for the symbiotes either but I know there are mixed opinions about that
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/15/2024, 10:02 AM
That's why there were reshoots and Holland was there, Knull carries over to the MCU and Derpnom goes right behind him.
Thing94
Thing94 - 9/15/2024, 10:09 AM
I hope they do all this well
DOOMSPEAKS
DOOMSPEAKS - 9/15/2024, 10:27 AM
He clearly got paid by Sony to say this.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2024, 10:42 AM
Ok im coming around to the idea of spiderman 4 being another multiverse movie and it's venom and the three spideys teaming up against knull who is trying to send his symbiote into every universe

Honestly if Knull, Cassandra Nova, Gorr, and Malekith teamed up, they could have really plunged the multiverse into darkness
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/15/2024, 10:58 AM
@Vigor - I wish I was but if it’s happening then hope it turns out well.

That would have been a hell of a team up but they would be at each others throats soon
Vigor
Vigor - 9/15/2024, 11:17 AM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah especially with Gorr wielding Knulls sword, ha
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/15/2024, 11:17 AM
Lmao
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 9/15/2024, 12:42 PM
It's a chop. This will probably make slightly more than the second, but not more than the first.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 9/15/2024, 12:52 PM
Actually Knull was a better option as an Avengers villian than Kang
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 9/15/2024, 1:13 PM
@YonnyLayna - Hmm, that would’ve been cool and different
dragon316
dragon316 - 9/15/2024, 1:39 PM
@YonnyLayna - darn right
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/16/2024, 12:53 AM
Donny Cates is a hack who has never once been able to end a story. He botches every ending to anything he's ever started.

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