WONDER WOMAN 1984 Director Patty Jenkins Loves How Different DC Movies Are To Marvel

WONDER WOMAN 1984 Director Patty Jenkins Loves How Different DC Movies Are To Marvel

Wonder Woman 1984 director Patty Jenkins has expressed her love of the DC Universe while praising Marvel's "distinguished competition" for bringing something different to the table with their films!

By Nighthawk01 - May 05, 2020 04:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Wonder Woman 1984

Warner Bros. has seemingly thrown in the towel when it comes to attempting to create a cinematic universe to rival the MCU, and that means fans get a lot of standalone tales with massively contrasting tones. Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey is nothing like Joker, for example, and one has to assume Wonder Woman 1984 will be very different again.

For filmmaker Patty Jenkins (Wonder Woman), this is one of the reasons she loves getting to play in the DCEU. 

"I love that about it," the director told Total Film. "To me, that’s what superhero movies – period – always were. I think the exception to that was that Marvel had such success doing a shared universe. But that certainly shouldn’t be the status quo. I think you should look at comic books. There’s this huge variety of comic books, and their look and tone and world are radically different."

"And they don’t always inevitably join together. Sometimes they do, and that’s really fun, and that’s that thing. But a lot of times, they have their own run. I’m psyched that DC – and frankly, Marvel’s actually doing it a little bit more now, too, with some of the tone of Thor: Ragnarok, and Black Widow and Doctor Strange – they feel very different in tone."

"But I love that about DC, and I’ve always thought that that’s a wonderful thing about DC – they were all so different," Jenkins concluded. 

The director makes a lot of good points, and looking at the DCEU nowadays does feel like you have the chance to pick and choose a wide range of massively different comic book runs. 

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Nebula
Nebula - 5/5/2020, 4:49 AM
I mean, they're all pretty similar thus far apart from Shazam!.
And the tone was more so changed by force than by choice.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 5/5/2020, 6:02 AM
@Nebula - Agree, DC is not that different from Marvel. TBH Wonder Woman was just a better remake of Cap:TFA and DC has been just copy/pasting marvel's formula ever since WW. I will argue that Shazam, Aquaman, & Joker are their most different. Shazam to me is there best and most original film to date because it mange to mix various tones better than even most marvel films.
Battabing
Battabing - 5/5/2020, 6:47 AM
@mastakilla39 - Actually, DC is quite different from Marvel. It was never created to be a shared universe, although that's what it later became. The Marvel universe was created by two or three guys, so there was always a consistency that lent itself to be a shared universe.
DC characters thrive as solo odysseys and epics, whereas Marvel is more team-oriented.
lvcl
lvcl - 5/5/2020, 8:01 AM
@Battabing -

Patty Jenkins had never done a superhero movie and from one day to another she directed Wonder Woman without any knowlodge.

She couldn´t have done it without Zack Snyder and now she is showing off and speaking like an expert.

WW84 is gonna be another flop as the fantabulous Birds of Prey cause we have already seen all that she can show us on a screen.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 5/5/2020, 8:02 AM
@Battabing -
Good point. Most of the Marvel Universe was created over the course of a few years by a handful of guys. They also set it in NYC so all of these characters were living in the same place. It was set up as a shared universe and DC was not. DC was set in fictional cities in a stylized world.

And that is OK as long as the people who make the movies make them good ones and don't put nipples on the batsuit or make Superman a douchebag.
Battabing
Battabing - 5/5/2020, 12:01 PM
@lvcl -
Actually, Patty Jenkins took a cynical Wonder Woman off of Snyder's hands and turned her into the heroic agent of hope Superman was supposed to be.
She knew what Snyder did wrong and fixed it. Same for James Wan.
lvcl
lvcl - 5/6/2020, 1:36 AM
@Battabing -

Ok dude, hope to meet you here again when WW84 super disco fashion will flop
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 5/5/2020, 4:55 AM
“ I think you should look at comic books. There’s this huge variety of comic books, and their look and tone and world are radically different. And they don’t always inevitably join together. Sometimes they do, and that’s really fun, and that’s that thing. But a lot of times, they have their own run.”

Sure... but not the core DC comic books. The ones you guys are actually adapting for the DCEU. Those share a world, and are meant to be able to join together.
Battabing
Battabing - 5/5/2020, 6:48 AM
@Chewtoy - The point is that Superman's world and Batman's world look nothing alike. If we can't tell Superman from Batman, then what's the point?
GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 5/5/2020, 7:19 AM
@Chewtoy - Exactly. I agree with her about tone, but not about shared universes.
The prof of the pudding is in the tasting and I bet those Endgame dollars taste pretty sweet. Sweeter even than those Avengers dollars did back in '12.

Had they built it right, those Justice League dollars would have been a health concern. Maybe the reboot. They seem to be getting their shit together now, in rebooting and rebuilding. They might be getting a second chance at delivering a universe and a franchise that the DC characters truly deserve.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 5/5/2020, 4:55 AM
I think I might agree on that with her. Marvel may have showed that it can work if everything is connected, but DC shows in my opinion it doesn't really need to be in order to be just as entertaining (I'm talking about anything post-Justice League here). The one thing I don't like, although not Jenkins' fault, is that there is a very slim chance of seeing McGregor's Black Mask again
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 6:02 AM
@MalseMarcel - One of the benefits of a strongly shared universe is that good characters can be saved from sinking or ended franchises. We've gotten almost as much Happy Hogan in Spider-Man movies as we have in Iron Man movies. (And while that may not make Spidey fans happy, it's awesome for Favreau fans.)
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 5/5/2020, 5:11 AM
Finally someone who is not a hack that shits on the genre they are working on. Jenkins was a great choice for Wonder Woman and I can't wait to see more of her work.
HubbleFunk
HubbleFunk - 5/5/2020, 5:19 AM
TBH, I think the argument could be made that Iron Man 1, Thor 1 and Cap 1 are all pretty different in tone whereas Man of Steel, BvS and Suicide Squad (before the reshoots) were all going for the same tone.

But props to Jenkins, shes a credit to DC.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 5:57 AM
@HubbleFunk -

Marvel was a fool to let Patty Jenkins slip away.

Without Jenkins, Marvel needed Taika Waititi to fix Thor.


patgreyc
patgreyc - 5/5/2020, 6:59 AM
@Spock0Clock - Fix Thor? I loved that movie, but there are a lot of Marvel fans that passionatley dislike that film for its reliance on humor. I don't think serious Thor needed to be fixed, I think they needed better scripts/directors to get the best out of Hemsworth. And yes Patty is one of those better directors, but I'm not sure we can say with certainty that she would have had a good handle on Thor.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 5/5/2020, 7:21 AM
@Spock0Clock - I still content that Jenkins leaving Thor is still the best timeline
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/5/2020, 7:23 AM
@HubbleFunk - they have different tone all I saw in iron man and Thor was comedy scenes people laughed at them captain America was only series movie at time until black panther came about
dragon316
dragon316 - 5/5/2020, 7:24 AM
@patgreyc - thor with reliance humor all I can say to that welcome to marvel movies that take nothing seriously even with characters that are dead
JustALurker
JustALurker - 5/5/2020, 8:32 AM
@Spock0Clock - am so happy Jankins isn't attacked to the MCU her wonderwoman felt like a phase one movie released in 2017.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 5/5/2020, 5:25 AM
It's about quality, not tone. And the value of a shared DC universe, was always about highlighting the Justice League, in the same way that Marvel was able to make The Avengers a mainstream guaranteed billion dollar property.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 5:46 AM
@WAKANDABATMANFOREVER - Exactly. Thor can go from Ragnarok to Infinity War and Endgame, with some radically different tonal shifts, because his characterization is consistent (enough) and the movies are good.

Just like real people in real life, there are happy times, sad times, goofy times, tragic times, etc. There are different contexts and peer groups that can make a person's personality reflect different facets, and it actually makes that person deeper and more relatable. (When it's done well.)
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 5/5/2020, 5:26 AM
Yeah, except DC superheroes do share a world. They created the shared world. They did World’s Finest, then they did the Justice Society. The Justice League is the reason the whole Marvel universe exists. Different tones for different characters is great, but please remember these characters exist in the same world. And please let them inevitably come together.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 5:53 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I feel like Jenkins/Gadot's Wonder Woman has seen her last team-up. If the sequel does well, they'll round out the trilogy (and maybe go further), but DC's plans for crossovers seem to be building out of Shazam, and the Trinity is all-but-officially disbanded.

If Reeves' Batman does well (as I sincerely hope it does), we could see a new Superman slotted into that universe, and it would be odd to see Gadot or Momoa make the trip over. Aquaman is dispensable for a Justice League lineup, but they'll be in a tough spot with Diana if Gadot has remained popular and her franchise has run its course.
tmp3
tmp3 - 5/5/2020, 6:00 AM
@Spock0Clock - David Corenswet for the new Superman
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 6:08 AM
@tmp3 - He looks a bit shrimpy in the picture, but... apparently he's 6'4"... so yeah. It's hard to easily put bulk on a frame that tall, but give him some time with a trainer and he'll be just about perfect visually (looking at the other pictures I could find online of him).

I'll trust you on the performance side. ...Damn, I don't think I've been won over by a Superman fancast this quickly before.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 6:17 AM
“But my pie-in-the-sky ambition is definitely to play Superman. I would love to see somebody do an upbeat, throwback [take on Superman]. I love the Henry Cavill dark and gritty take, but I would love to see the next one be very bright and optimistic.”


tmp3
tmp3 - 5/5/2020, 6:17 AM
@Spock0Clock - Ryan Murphy's new mini-series "Hollywood" is a disaster, imo, but Corenswet already plays a perfect Clark Kent in it. Even listening to interviews he's got that "aw shucks" Kansas farmboy shit down to a T.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 5/5/2020, 6:23 AM
@tmp3 - I find that interviews help me see fancasts clearer than watching actors in other roles. And based on that video...

WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 5/5/2020, 7:09 AM
@tmp3 - Watched the show til the end. What a mess.

But I need more Jeremy Pope in my life. Not shocked to find out he got two Tony nominations last year alone.
JDL
JDL - 5/5/2020, 7:14 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I wonder if they may be considering a shared world in the sense of how Marvel TV and Film shared a world. Kind of a social distancing world if you will.
tmp3
tmp3 - 5/5/2020, 7:24 AM
@WakandanQueen - I finished the show too, and Pope really is a revelation, but holy [frick]ing shit is it an ill-advised train-wreck of a show, haha. The fake movie is legitimately terrible and the dude playing Rock Hudson was awful, but the fact that Murphy wanted to tackle such real, volatile issues with the subtlety and nuance of a Disney Channel Original Movie was... an interesting decision. Also the music under-mined every single scene, haha.
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