THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Plot Leak Reveals Surprise Castings, AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Links, And More

THE FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS Plot Leak Reveals Surprise Castings, AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Links, And More

A supposed plot leak for The Fantastic Four: First Steps has surfaced, and it reveals who is playing who, how this movie lays the groundwork for Avengers: Doomsday, and even how the story concludes...

By JoshWilding - Apr 19, 2025 12:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

A new trailer for The Fantastic Four: First Steps launched earlier this week, and, well, would it be too on the nose to describe it as fantastic? It's certainly increased excitement for the movie, and we now have a potential plot leak

This was published a couple of days before the latest trailer arrived, and the sneak peek appears to confirm the validity of at least a few different claims here. 

It's said that the movie opens with a late-night talk show celebrating four years of the Fantastic Four. It recaps their origins and previous adventures, but Marvel's First Family is M.I.A. because they're busy battling Red Ghost (John Malkovich) and his Super-Apes.

Silver Surfer shows up on Halloween and things play out as we saw in the trailer; the team follows Galactus' Herald into space, but Sue goes into labour during the journey and it's revealed that her and Reed's son, Franklin, has a rare "genetic anomaly" that gives him God-like power of molecular manipulation. 

The Fantastic Four confronts Galactus, and he offers to spare Earth in exchange for Franklin as he wishes to use the boy to revive his dead universe; they refuse.

Back on Earth, the team's adoring public turns on them because they won't sacrifice one child in exchange for billions of lives and storm the Baxter Building, going so far as to attack H.E.R.B.I.E. The Fantastic Four go into hiding, and Natasha Lyonne's Sharon (likely Sharon Ventura, who, in the comics, becomes the female Thing) helps them seek refuge in Subterranea. 

Mole Man (played by Paul Walter Hauser) has become an ally to the team since clashing with them years earlier, and Sharon convinces him to send his Moloids to rescue people while the Fantastic Four battle Galactus on the surface. 

With the Silver Surfer's help, the team beats the World Eater and saves the day. Mole Man and Sharon become an item, the public adores the team again, and a year later, that same talk show celebrates five years of the heroes. However, they miss it again because they're busy saving the world. 

If this leak is accurate, then this sounds like a really fun movie and a comic-accurate take on the characters. 

It's also apparent that the heroes are still on their Earth when Avengers: Doomsday begins. However, between Galactus searching for a dead reality and Franklin's God-like powers, it's not hard to see how important the team will be to what happens there.

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal.

The movie is set to be released in theaters on July 25, 2025.

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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/19/2025, 12:20 PM
Whay a horrible plot if true
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 4/19/2025, 12:22 PM
so Galactus is sorcerer supreme now and can see the future of their kid? Does he have this kind of power?
SonOfOdor
SonOfOdor - 4/19/2025, 1:27 PM
@vectorsigma - Franklin, even as a fetus, probably just had an insanely high level of cosmic energy bc his powers. Galactus can probably just sense/feel that and is attracted to it vs. some kind of future seeing ability.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/19/2025, 2:47 PM
Why would Galactus not:

• Approach The Fantastic Four in a friendly way and ask for help to restore and return to his own reality

• Wait till Franklin Richards is older and convince him to help.

• Send his heralds after the baby as opposed to going himself, if Shalla-Bal refuses then appoint another herald instead, especially if the population have turned on the Fantastic Four - plenty of options.

Seems like they turned Galactus into an idiot.

dragon316
dragon316 - 4/19/2025, 3:30 PM
@vectorsigma - how can it be horrible same as all other comics movies good vs bad
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 4/21/2025, 5:28 AM
@Scarilian - Why would Galactus: Even give them the chance to give up the kid. He is the eater of worlds.
True Galactus would steal the kid, eat the world and go on about his day.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 4/19/2025, 12:24 PM
I always hoped to see Franklin and I love to see the Hickman run done in Liverpool action
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/19/2025, 12:40 PM
@AllsNotGood -

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PatientXero
PatientXero - 4/19/2025, 12:24 PM
Sounds like shit
PatientXero
PatientXero - 4/19/2025, 12:24 PM
Jk jk. Lol lol
Alucard28
Alucard28 - 4/19/2025, 12:24 PM
I don't like this tbh.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 4/19/2025, 12:25 PM
im not reading that sh1t
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 4/19/2025, 12:27 PM
Everyone turns on them because they won't sacrifice their infant child? Are you serious? Who the frak signed-off on THAT major plot point???

This movie deserves to fail for that alone. What a bleak, ugly, Far Left worldview bunch of bulls--t. Have everyone willing to sacrifice ANY life for the "greater good" is some kind of Maoist evil.
Fogs
Fogs - 4/19/2025, 12:37 PM
@HistoryofMatt - Yeap. So much for such an advanced society, huh? Materialistic, just like our own.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/19/2025, 12:37 PM
@HistoryofMatt -

How many liberals are okay with sacrificing billions of babies so that women can keep partying?
Rpendo
Rpendo - 4/19/2025, 1:57 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Get a life, dadbod.

Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/19/2025, 2:17 PM
@HistoryofMatt -
I'd have expected the same reaction with Tony Stark choosing not to undo the 5-years of pure hell, filled with suicides and death, in Avengers Endgame if they knew the truth that he had that option and instead chose his own happiness over that.

I think you can tell such a story, but it is a very negativity view of humanity as a whole. I'd expect some discourse, but nope, it's immediately turned into a cult-like mentality of sacrificing someone to save themselves.

Galactus is a fricking idiot in this. This all-powerful being decides he's going to attack now and demand Franklin Richards be given to him. There's zero motivation for him to do so. Franklin is a baby and cannot control the powers and even if Galactus can drain the powers from Franklin, why wouldn't he just wait and approach the Fantastic Four as friendly as possible once Franklin has control of his powers. Why would it matter to Galactus whether he reality is brought back now or in 10+ years time.

Why would he threaten them with destruction instantly as opposed to sending his most trusted herald to just approach them to ask for help. Stupid fricking plot.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 4/19/2025, 3:38 PM
@HistoryofMatt - Way to twist everything to fit your narrative. "Means to an end" is a far-right philosophy. This is exactly what Trump is doing right now by kicking people out of the country to supposedly make the country richer. The Left rejects treating people as a "means" and respects individual rights.

A perfect example of this is regarding what @MakeAmericaGrea insinuated. A rape victim not being able to have an abortion when it is within the person's right to do what they want with their body makes it perfectly clear which side treats a person as a means to an end and which side treats a person as an end in itself. Maybe both of you should go read about the things you are preaching and come back.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 4/19/2025, 4:35 PM
@SpiderParker - You don't know what the frak you're talking about, mainly because you were indocrinated in government schools or Far left private institutions. Your understanding of history is about as deep as Dave Smith's.

Sacrificing individuality for the greater good is the cornerstone of Leftist political thought, from progressivism, to all forms of socialism, to communism, to totalitarianism. All forms of Leftism feature it.

I'd suggest you'd read a book, but you'd probably just pick up something from "deep" thinkers like John Oliver or Keith Olbermann, you obnoxious, know-nothing.
SpiderParker
SpiderParker - 4/19/2025, 6:17 PM
@HistoryofMatt - I certainly know what the frak I'm talking about, but clearly all you're capable of is parroting the words of others without understanding a fraction of it. Your entire logic is based on the history of things, but you don't understand its evolving nature. Have you ever thought that maybe how it starts doesn't mean the same thing as how it ends?

For your information, no form of leftism is ever true to itself. It always devolves into an agenda that becomes a far-right excuse of a left idea. But you need critical thinking to be able to understand that no supposed left-regime has ever been anything but far-right.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 4/19/2025, 7:49 PM
@SpiderParker - Yeah... you know absolutely nothing. Literally nothing. Not worth my time bandying about words with someone this ignorant. Adios.
Maybe
Maybe - 4/19/2025, 9:07 PM
@HistoryofMatt -

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Yellow
Yellow - 4/21/2025, 8:08 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - dude is not even funny to make everything about your agenda, jeez
PatientXero
PatientXero - 4/19/2025, 12:27 PM
Idk how feel about Franklin being introduced so early, and being god like. I know it’s comic accurate. I would also expect some reference to Dr. Doom in there, somewhere.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 4/19/2025, 1:19 PM
@PatientXero - he's just a macguffin. Basically their relevance to the greater MCU is solely due to Franklin.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/19/2025, 2:19 PM
@PatientXero -
"I would also expect some reference to Dr. Doom in there"

Doctor Doom is not from this universe. They make it clear that only the Fantastic Four went into space and got the powers - only the four of them. This means Doctor Doom cannot have gained his powers from the same accident.
PatientXero
PatientXero - 4/19/2025, 3:10 PM
@Scarilian - What are you talking about? You are confusing the Fox movies with the comics. Dr Doom doesn’t have powers. He’s basically an evil Iron Man. Genius level intellect, skilled at hand to hand combat and a suit that grants him abilities. Plus he’s a very highly skilled sorcerer.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/19/2025, 3:22 PM
@PatientXero -
The Fox movies are the only thing the general audience have familiarity with in their desire to see Doctor Doom adapted. They know Doctor Doom only as getting his powers from the same accident the Fantastic Four did.

You think they'd have time or desire to develop his comic origin in this movie that skips origins because the audience already knows them?

The comics are irrelevant, especially to Disney, but more so because Marvel stopped making them during Fox owning the Fantastic Four, so none of the younger audience know Doctor Doom as anything other.

Also, it'd be the Sam Wilson affect. In that movie he had the helmet of Ant-Man, the suit of Black Panther, the wings of Falcon and the shield of Captain America.

If the MCU tries to portray Doom as per the comic, then he'll just be Doctor Strange Iron Man - made worse by the casting of RDJ. They were going to make such a joke in Endgame and decided against it because it'd be really stupid to have a characters identity defined by two separate characters - and once you do the notion that anyone can have magical power armor to buff themselves you devalue each individual hero or villain who wears it.

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PatientXero
PatientXero - 4/19/2025, 3:35 PM
@Scarilian - I think you are over thinking it. Those movies are like 20 years old. I’d bet dollars to donuts they aren’t trying to make it anything like the prior movies. You’d be silly to think they would. Also, while they aren’t focusing directly on the origin, they will cover it. As far as the devaluing the meaning of a suit that is infused by magic, also silly. Not just anyone can do magic. And not just anyone can do magic on the level of Dr Strange, or Dr Doom.
PatientXero
PatientXero - 4/19/2025, 3:37 PM
@Scarilian - That wasn’t serious concept art. They make all sorts of different concept art, not only to see if something cool comes up, but to leak shit intentionally to throw people off.
Irregular
Irregular - 4/19/2025, 12:28 PM
Eh. Seems okay. A lot better than the other F4 movies though.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/19/2025, 12:33 PM
@Irregular -

It seems worse than the '00s duology.

At least it has Norrin Radd, more appropriate Reed and Johnny, and a Thing with a more appropriate personality and voice.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/19/2025, 12:32 PM
"If this leak is accurate, then this sounds like a really fun movie and a comic-accurate take on the characters."

Not fun enough to make $900 million.

Reed, Johnny, and Thing are not comic accurate.

Everyone knows Norrin Radd should be here and not his girlfriend.

That's not comic accurate.
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 4/19/2025, 12:39 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - I see where you’re coming from with the Surfer but there is precedent for that in the comics. Not the originals but it is there. This is going to be one of those “wait and see” for me. But I really think it’s going to be the one that will make or break the current MCU. This fails, they need to stop after the Avengers movies and give it a break for a few years.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/19/2025, 12:44 PM
@fanboy03191 -

There is also precedent for Batman wearing a rainbow batsuit, and Hulk being dressed like a clown and juggling elephants.

Just because a thing can be done doesn't mean that it should be done.

In which reality before the MCU did the Fantastic 4 meet Norrin's girlfriend before they met Norrin?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 4/19/2025, 12:49 PM
@fanboy03191 -

Yeah, take a break for a few years, reboot the MCU, hire new actors, and come back in 2030.

A new MCU with a new decade.
Yellow
Yellow - 4/19/2025, 1:14 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Thanos wasnt comic accurate and yet...
Huskers
Huskers - 4/19/2025, 12:36 PM
Sounds terrible.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 4/19/2025, 12:38 PM
It was said that the Fantastic 4 are from Earth 616 and they went to this Earth accidentally by a Reeds experiment. That's why Strange joked that being in a chart of the 60's.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 4/19/2025, 12:51 PM
@MadThanos - “Fantastic 4? Didnt they chart in the 1960’s?” is a reference to the music industry. Referencing how the team name sounds more like a band name. Think bands like “The Four Tops”, “The Four Seasons”, “Three Dog Night” from that era.
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