Ashley Edward Miller And Zack Stentz Talk X-Men: First Class & THOR!

Ashley Edward Miller And Zack Stentz Talk X-Men: First Class & THOR!

Screenwriters behind two big superhero movies that are coming out this summer, X-Men: First Class and THOR, talk about their process and much more. Check it out!

By WolvieCBM - May 03, 2011 12:05 PM EST
Filed Under: X-Men
Source: io9



In this in-depth interview with io9, screenwriters behind Kenneth Branagh's THOR and Matthew Vaughn-directed X-Men: First Class, talk about their approach for these films.

On what was the influence for their THOR script:

Miller: "Walt Simonson was a huge influence. So was Mark Millar, in terms of how Thor was presented in action in the Ultimates 1 and 2. I'm a huge fan of Thor, which I think is key. I believe in his emotional reality, so it's not hard to translate that into a script. That's the key with any of these movies — find the emotional reality and dramatize it. That gives your characters weight and your stories value. It's as true for Thor as it is for Derek Reese."


Stentz: "What did they used to say in the 80s? "Let Reagan be Reagan?" We just tried to let Thor be Thor, because there's a really strong, defined core of that character that comes through loud and clear across the decades, whether it's in the space opera of Simonson, the epic hero of the Fraction one shots, or the more grounded version in the JMS run. And honestly, we also went straight back to the source when thinking about and writing Thor— the Prose Edda of Snorri Sturlson and various Norse myths, which are so vivid and memorable themselves. Those Norse storytellers knew what they were doing when they paired a strong man and a clever man as friends, brothers, and rivals."


On writing X-Men: First Class, Civil Rights movement within the X-Men universe and more:

Miller: "That sort of thing certainly runs through your mind, but you can't make the movie about that. You can't even make the movie about the Cuban Missile Crisis. It's layered into subtext - although oddly in this case, I think it's more explicit with respect to attitudes toward women. Even that is very small."


Stentz: "I think the MLK-Malcolm X dichotomy has always been in the Singer X-Men films...he even has Magneto say "By any means necessary" at one point! But actually setting an X-Men film during the Civil Rights Era, which coincided with this wonderful, crazy period of technological optimism and possibility, opened up the storytelling in a lot of ways. Partway through the process, we realized that what we were writing in many ways had the vibe of a 1960s Connery Bond film, which was something Matthew Vaughn really responded to in the material and ran with. He just did a wonderful job of transplanting the X-Men into a whole jet age, swingin' London, Civil Rights, JFK New Frontier era."


X-Men: First Class is set to hit theatres on June 3, while THOR hits US theatres this week!

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Ghostfire
Ghostfire - 5/3/2011, 12:59 PM
@diediedie
Well put my friend
Draximos
Draximos - 5/3/2011, 1:16 PM
@diediedie
Yeah totally agree man; 90's were great, it's the 00's -- when the MOVIES came out, those [frick]ed up films. X2 is the only decent one, and things are still kinda [frick]ed up in there. Only good thing with Xmen that came out in that time was the cartoon Xmen Evolution.
ImInteresting
ImInteresting - 5/3/2011, 1:32 PM
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marvel72
marvel72 - 5/3/2011, 1:38 PM
see all good writers,write shit from time to time.

hence x-men first class.
ComicsCommando
ComicsCommando - 5/3/2011, 1:46 PM
Both Thor and First Class are going to be great.
Ghostfire
Ghostfire - 5/3/2011, 1:58 PM
@marvel72
so true, so true.

But I think FC is past shit... It's more like a Cluster [frick].. you know what I mean.
breakUbatman
breakUbatman - 5/3/2011, 2:06 PM
@ELgUaSoN

Wowhow intense is Magnetos helmet, just a space for his eyes and a slit that barely shows his face.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/3/2011, 3:48 PM
Saying you don't like the look of a movie you haven't seen yet is one thing but criticizing the writing? You have no idea what you're talking about Marvel72. Have you even seen Thor yet to confirm for yourself that these guys have written something good??
DarkKnight7
DarkKnight7 - 5/3/2011, 4:09 PM
@ everyone

I saw Thor and I have to say that is stays faithful to the source material, they went the ultimate route but they keep things from the different incarnations of Thor and stay faithful. To everyone that thinks that its just an action movie, it has a story and a lesson to learn well Thor. It has its humor but thats marvel they always have humor,drama,action, and their stories are character driven they just have the special effects to help the story. Thor is better than the Xmen films. And Marvel is 3 for 3, yea Iron Man 2 had its flaws but it still was a great movie. And Marvel knows what they are doing. Unlike fox
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/3/2011, 4:34 PM
@ ghostfire

i agree it certainly is a clusterf*ck,the movie is beyond saving.

@ ryguy88

yup on the 27th april,very good film.

also i read the leaked script & seen the film so i think i can say its well written. :)
cham2119
cham2119 - 5/3/2011, 9:23 PM
@MTL can suck my balls
tehdude
tehdude - 5/3/2011, 10:12 PM
Wow @the people hating on MTL (aka diediedie and cham2119). I don't agree with the guy on quite a bit (such as first class and more recently the amazing spiderman) but personal attacks? geez. Although it is kind of astounding that he said the 90's was the worst decade for xmen comics when its generally praised as the time when the xmen was at its best... but no need to attack him. Keep on topic people!

back on topic- really love what the guys who wrote thor had to say about it. let thor be thor. brilliant, all cbm's should have a similar slogan. let iron man be iron man, spiderman be spiderman, superman be superman etc etc... can't wait to see the film.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/3/2011, 10:22 PM
Marvel72, and how is the writing in X-Men? Have you seen that one yet?:)

I don't trust anyone who's opinion is that of Iron Man 2 being a "great movie." That movie was pointless, boring and often very annoying. A few flaws, the whole idea of that movie was a flaw. What was the point? Iron Man creating a new element so his arch reactor doesn't kill him? that issue was only added into that script because they realized that nothing they had so far mattered. That whole movie was basically made to push along the Avengers movie and introduce War Machine.

X-Men 1 and X-2 may not have been 100% accurate to it's source material but they were good movies. They had a strong plot with purpose and meaning and some pretty nicely fleshed out characters to go along with some decent action. X-2 can be argued as one of the best cmbs ever.

If you count The Incredible Hulk, Marvel is 2 for 4 (same as Fox's X-Men.) Iron Man and Thor being the obvious gems of the bunch.
Ghostfire
Ghostfire - 5/3/2011, 10:55 PM
@Ryguy88
IMO....
I agree Iron Man 2 wasn't a sequel nor a great movie at that. My buddies and I call it a S.H.I.E.L.D./Avenger Intro/Prequel. Yes the movie was sacrificed from a being a good movie so that they could tie in the MU, but it was still an entertaining popcorn flick.

At the time X-men was made they were considered really great films but If you look back now they are obviously not that great either. You don't have to see FC class or read the script to see how ridiculous Xmen is getting. No matter how "cool" Fox tries to make x-men look, they will never get it right. It doesn't matter what actors they hire or director to direct it will never be the X-men. But I'm still surprised that others are even willing to give this a shot after the franchise has been torn apart and recycled time after time.
DarkKnight7
DarkKnight7 - 5/3/2011, 11:53 PM
@Ryguy88
I'm talking about actual Marvel meaning Marvel studios not no marvel movie by fox or columbia. I mean Marvel Studios. I think Marvel Studios is 4 for 4, i forgot about The Incredible Hulk. Yea they were pushing the story along to push for the avengers and to introduce War Maching,but they still tried to add a personal story of stark about legacy. I don't know if you were just paying attention to the action, cause at least they are incorporating character development, at least trying to.

@Ghostfire

I agree with you on that. all fox is doing is rehashing the same story over and over again, which is annoying as shit,and butchering Xmen. I dont want to get started on everything that is wrong with Xmen but what pisses me off the most is that they made cyclops a whinny [female dog], when in the comics hes the LEADER(not logan)who doesnt give a shit what people think. And yes Iron man 2 wasnt that great but you have to agree with me that they at least tried, It was Marvel Studios first sequal.
blvdnoise
blvdnoise - 5/4/2011, 5:16 AM
Though this "FistClass" movie isn't looking as horrible as most of us thought.. I would've loved to see an ORIGINAL FIRST CLASS character lineup..

Head strong LEADER // Cyclops
Pretty yet Powerful // Marvel girl
Sheltered & Socially Torn // Angel
Mis-proportioned but NOT(YET)BLUE // Beast
and a Young, Cocky, arrogant, prick // Iceman

I know what your thinking but anymore characters would have to be in the SEQUEL(S) to make a TRUE First class film..
Later on maybe adding a:

Self Assured and KICK ASS // Storm
RUSSIAN+Gruesome+Loving // Colossus
Allan Cummings actually nailed // NightCrawler
Then somewhere along the way.. WOLVERINE
cham2119
cham2119 - 5/4/2011, 7:26 AM
Here are the major problems with Fist Ass

1 the film was shot in under four months with a release date set within the same year the last time an X Men Film was rushed into release X3 happened.

2 While I don't expect the Films to follow the comics verbatum when an X Men movie is titled First Class that's what i expect to see not a collaboration of characters they drew from a hat or threw darts at on a board.

3 It's not Okay to alienate the audience that made Xmen so popular to begin with. Those of you who just watched the films or cartoons may enjoy this and i hope you do but don't dismiss fan outrage just because you don't know who the real X Men are. If a studio decided to reboot, remake or adapt something you cherish from your childhood and throw away everything that made it great to you i'm sure you'd be pissed as well.

4 The difference between Thor, Cap and even GL from Fist Ass is that even though they don't follow continuity verbatim (which no one expects by the way.) these films are attempting to adapt and update these characters and there supporting cast while still paying homage to the books that made them great, Hell the only comic Branaugh read in his childhood was Thor, Whedon has written for Marvel for years. Faverau much of the same and you won't find a bigger Stark fan then him, Norton loved both the comics as a kid and the Bixby show and brought that dedication to the table when he approached Hulk, and Geoff (the GL mastermind) Johns over saw a great deal of GL's production to make sure they were on track. Most of the Producers and directors that have helmed these films over the years have openly admitted to not having read an xmen comic prior to the pitch. I'm not saying you have to be a fan to make these films but it doesn't hurt.

This is a half assed mockery of an xmen film if Warner had decided to take the Harry Potter series and throw out the main characters that made that series great fans would have burned that studio to the ground. Dismissing Comic fans and saying their opinions don't matter is single handedly the dumbest thing i've ever had to counter against we made the X Men popular over the years without a hardcore fan basis surrounding the title it would've never been adapted for TV or film and that should be respected.

P.S @RyGuy my bad but MTL really grinds my [frick]ing gears.
Ghostfire
Ghostfire - 5/4/2011, 11:31 AM
@cham2119

My thoughts exactly and an Amen, bro!!
cham2119
cham2119 - 5/4/2011, 2:54 PM
Thanks @ghost and you're spot on about the previous x films they don't have much of a shelf value at all at the most the only one i can sit through now (Hammered mind you) is X2.
Ghostfire
Ghostfire - 5/5/2011, 5:56 PM
@cham2119
LOL! So true, and even if I am hammered, I still cringe when I see it. Those films did open up the doors for future films and I give cred where its due. But like you said, they don't have shelf value at all. It's a cluster [frick] of recycled material. FC is the same shit no matter what they are trying to throw at us.
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