X-MEN '97 Star J.P. Karliak Addresses Morph Backlash And Whether Mutant Is Identified As Non-Binary In Series

X-MEN '97 Star J.P. Karliak Addresses Morph Backlash And Whether Mutant Is Identified As Non-Binary In Series

Before X-Men '97's launch, it was confirmed that Morph is now considered non-binary. Here, voice actor J.P. Karliak addresses the backlash and whether this status will be explored in the series itself...

By JoshWilding - Mar 26, 2024 09:03 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men '97
Source: CBR (via Toonado.com)

X-Men '97 may serve as a follow-up to X-Men: The Animated Series, but that doesn't mean the show hasn't evolved. For example, it features a new approach to Morph; the character has a different look and, before the revival's launch, was revealed to be non-binary. 

That generated claims of Marvel Studios going "woke" with the X-Men, a team of superheroes who were arguably woke decades before that word even became a thing. 

J.P. Karliak has taken over the role of Morph from Ron Rubin and, in an interview with CBR (via Toonado.com), admitted he wasn't surprised by the backlash. However, he's also been pleased to see how many fans have pushed back against the hate. 

"No," Karliak said when asked if he was shocked by the initial response. "I'm a queer activist. I run a nonprofit that advocates for queer representation. I also co-founded a voter registration organization. I know what's going on in the world, especially politically, so no, it didn't surprise me at all. [Laughs]"

"I think what I appreciated was how much counter-backlash there was, with people like 'Have you watched the X-Men? Are you familiar with why they were created and what they're about? Did you forget that?' That was reassuring."

"I haven't really taken offense with anything anybody's published, as much as they've tried," the actor added with a laugh. "There was one article that called me a radical queer activist and listed the insidious mission statement of my organization [Queer Vox] - verbatim of what was on the website. I was like 'Facts. No lies here, thanks for the promotion!'"

Karliak would go on to confirm that, despite Morph's non-binary status, it's not a word we'll hear used in X-Men '97 due to the show's '90s setting. It's actually for that reason the character also goes by he/him in the show. 

"Two things about that - one, as far as I know, we're never going to say the word 'non-binary' because nobody said the word 'non-binary' in the '90s," he explained. "It's not that it didn't exist; it was just in no way a mainstream term at the time."

"Morph's understanding of who he is could equate to what a modern person would say is non-binary, but he just doesn’t have the terminology for it. At the same time, they/them wasn't a concept in terms of using it as a pronoun."

That explanation is one which makes sense, but it's unlikely to win over those who feel Marvel Studios has dropped the ball in terms of representation since the Infinity Saga concluded.

The first two episodes of X-Men '97 are now streaming on Disney+. 

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harryba11zack - 3/26/2024, 9:56 AM
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krayzeman - 3/26/2024, 10:02 AM
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krayzeman
krayzeman - 3/26/2024, 11:10 AM
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ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 3/26/2024, 10:04 AM
X-Men is SO wOkE

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Murderisbadong
Murderisbadong - 3/26/2024, 10:05 AM
Honestly it comes to a point where people are so predictable with their response, it’s laughable and there is zero reason to get angry over their response. Good on him for laughing it off.

This website is no different. So many people in these comment sections are predictable with their troll/hate it’s pointless to even engage with them on any topics.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/26/2024, 10:35 AM
@Murderisbadong - you see them regurgitating talking points from Fox News verbatim even when they are comically wrong. Nelson Peltz is a huge ESG investor and they talk about how he needs to save Disney from EDG investors...

Or homeboy here talking about kids identifying as cats when that was disproven years ago.

It's like they are a cliche.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 3/26/2024, 10:06 AM
People having animosity or hatred towards Morph are exactly the type of people the show talks about. People cheer and promote the X-Men for their stance against discrimination, hatred, and bigotry but will discriminate, hate, and be bigots towards people who are different in real life. The Sentinels were designed to hunt, enslave, and eradicate Mutants the way people use Religion as justification for their hate and their desires to hunt, enslave, and eradicate people who are different. It's bizarre to me how blind people with hate truly are.
Vigor
Vigor - 3/26/2024, 10:11 AM
@SonOfAGif - do you think it's an iq thing? Or maybe just a glitch in the brain. Remember when we were little it was popular that children should be "seen but not heard"?

That was common at least when I was a kid. But now every study in the world says you should actually pay attention to your kids mental wellbeing to produce a well functioning future adult. It's not that our parents were stupid... they just didn't know better

I don't know if that is a good example as this but the naivety in me feels these hateful types think they're right but just don't know any better
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/26/2024, 11:13 AM
@Vigor - Knowledge, education and IQ can be a factor but oft more a case many look at things in a slanted way to confirm their own beliefs, on both sides of any aisle, and anything that goes too far against what they were brought up to believe they will reject with venom.

As such when something is fun and entertaining like the Xmen came along they will ignore subtext that goes against their ideologies and simply view it like Westerns (as in white hat's V black hat's) without dwelling on the whole social justice subtexts (or even twist it around to being the opposite in some cases in order to fit their beliefs).

When the subtexts are pointed out those opposed to those ideas will then tend to reject that was ever the case, considering it a modern retcon, as if acknowledging they enjoyed the show/comics to do otherwise would be to admit they sided with the social justice issues that are in opposition to what they were taught to believe in and folk tend to not want to admit they were wrong or ignorant in any way in the main.

This is not me taking positions either way on anything, including if Xmen were initialy written as a social justice thing or if that came later (as kinda moot either way). However this is just an example/explanation of how psychology of humanity tends to work for most who are less open to critical thinking and listening to opposing points of view and applies equaly in the other direction for those more progressive being challenged in similar ways.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/26/2024, 1:40 PM
@Apophis71 - very well articulated friend
Origame
Origame - 3/26/2024, 10:13 AM
First of all, so they're even hiring activists as voice actors? Ffs.

Second, if not stated, what's the point? At least with Dumbledore there's an underlining thing between him and grindlewald that makes him being gay important. But here? He's just apparently nonbinary even though no one acknowledges it because that didn't exist in the 90s?

So...he's just a guy.

I swear, this sh!t is being made so needlessly confusing. No wonder kids are identifying as cats and insisting schools put litter boxes in the bathrooms 🙄
newhire13
newhire13 - 3/26/2024, 10:20 AM
@Origame - 🙄 He’s a voice over actor who is also an activist. Yikes.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 3/26/2024, 10:24 AM
@Origame - Uh, never have kids identified as cats and insisted that litter boxes be put in bathrooms.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 3/26/2024, 10:30 AM
@Origame - Literally no kids are identifying as cats and insisting schools put litter boxes in the bathrooms
Origame
Origame - 3/26/2024, 10:32 AM
@Izaizaiza - yes they are.

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Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 3/26/2024, 10:33 AM
@Origame - Do my comments keep being taken down. Apparently I'm not allowed to fact check you..🤔
Origame
Origame - 3/26/2024, 10:37 AM
@Izaizaiza - wtf are you talking about? Both your comments are still here.

Also, fact checking implies you're actually correcting me 🤣
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/26/2024, 10:38 AM
@Origame - hahahaha... that was disproven years ago. There's even a Wikipedia page in the whole hoax.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax

Janitors keep litter to clean up vomit and other things. There's nothing scandalous about it. How do you keep falling for these?
Ikusa
Ikusa - 3/26/2024, 10:38 AM
@Izaizaiza - You literally have people in California identifying as animals.
Origame
Origame - 3/26/2024, 10:42 AM
@Itwasme - notice how I never said the schools were putting litter boxes in.

I'm saying kids are identifying as cats and insisting on having litter boxes put in.

And you say my reading comprehension skills suck 🤣
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 10:43 AM
@Origame - the litter box rumor originated from Jefferson County Colorado where litter is kept in schools in case of extensive lock down. Jefferson County is where Columbine happened and the area still gets attention. A few years ago a woman obsessed with Columbine came here threatening to to do another Columbine resulting in lockdown foe the surrounding areas. My son has lockdown training multiple times in the school year in this county as well.

@mountainman may also be familiar.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/26/2024, 10:48 AM
@Origame - it's the same conspiracy genius.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2YN1O2/
mountainman
mountainman - 3/26/2024, 10:49 AM
@Evansly - I live very close to Jeff Co. The school boards out there are absolutely bat s**t crazy. Too many examples to list here, but I can just share that I’m involved in local politics and advocacy in this area and there is a huge push to get this extremist school board out at the next election.

Zero chance my children will ever set foot in a public school, but I still want to have an influence over these indoctrination factories that are harming our youth.
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 10:53 AM
@mountainman - I have had multiple issues with the school district and a specific school and my son us only in kindergarten. I'm pulling him out once the school year has ended.

I wouldn't say my issues are extremist related but absolutely incompetence related. I consider one woman I have dealt with to be the epitome of public education but in all the worst ways
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 10:54 AM
@mountainman - They do want kids to think a certain way and my ADHD son doesn't so that makes things harder for him and the staff doesn't want to deal with kids who don't think their prescribed way.

My understanding is this is common throughout public education and my first year dealing with it has really been frustrating and has been a fight for my son
mountainman
mountainman - 3/26/2024, 10:59 AM
@Evansly - I am not trying to diagnose your son here, but a lot of boys diagnosed with ADHD is just because public school is more built for girls than boys.

Little boys are not built to sit in one place all day, be quiet, follow orders, and avoid playing or roughhousing. Boys need those things and school rarely allows for them.

Just don’t let them put your kid on ADHD meds. That stuff messes up a lot of kids man. And we now have the first generation of kids who were prescribed it in mass who are in their 20’s now. And too many of them just move on to other drugs as they get older.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/26/2024, 11:00 AM
@Evansly - The worst thing about that school
district was our absolutely terrible state Rep David Ortiz, when parent groups were following science and protesting to get the school mask mandates removed, he called those parents “domestic terrorists”. For exercising their first amendment right and going to the school to speak their concern. Him, like all other Dems in this state, are complete trash and are actively ruining colorado.
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 11:04 AM
@mountainman - I appreciate your concern. I have little doubt that he has it, the way he takes everything in as he comes into a place or the way he has conversations. Lots more examples. That said I have no intention of using meds anytime in the near future and if that time happens I will talk to my doctor brother and a close pharmacist friend.

I am looking into different school types as well. I've also heard Littleon Public Schools is night and day different than Jeffco. Also looking into Private
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/26/2024, 11:14 AM
@Evansly - I went through school with a son who has ADHD and is on the spectrum. I am happy to provide some tips for how best to navigate that.

One thing I would say is you have legal protections at public schools that don't exist at private ones. You have to decide what is best for you, but if you have any questions I'm happy to help as someone who has been through it.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/26/2024, 11:14 AM
@Evansly - My daughter is a few years away from school and I hope I can afford private by then. Or homeschool but that is so hard to do.

LPS is better than Jeffco, but only by a bit.
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 11:21 AM
@Itwasme - I appreciate you reaching out and offering and I certainly may take you up on that too. One of my close friends growing up had severe ADHD and the way he was treated by faculty and teachers was appalling. It's heart breaking to see some of it now with my son too.

One of the biggest things I've felt so far is that they need to be pushed into doing the right thing
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 11:25 AM
@mountainman - I wish you the best when that time comes. My daughter probably wouldn't struggle with it at all once she gets there in 2 years but I need a place where I can feel like my son gets the right amount of support
mountainman
mountainman - 3/26/2024, 11:28 AM
@Evansly - Thanks man. The hardest part of being a parent is guiding them in good ways without being overly controlling. So many bad influences out there but you can’t smother them.
Evansly
Evansly - 3/26/2024, 11:30 AM
@mountainman - It is definitely a balancing act but they are too important to just let things happen.

My kids are getting such fun interests which I am absolutely loving it's definitely super rewarding but also super hard
Origame
Origame - 3/26/2024, 11:32 AM
@Itwasme - I've literally dealt with it at a school I left.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/26/2024, 11:36 AM
@Evansly - you will have to advocate his entire life, but it will get easier.

The first thing would be to get a school assessment. You have to ask for it, but they have to legally do it. If you aren't happy with the assessment then you can have a doctor do it. You might want that anyway, but getting the school hands on is a good start.

With an assessment you'll either set up a 504 plan or an IEP. A 504 is a bit more casual than an IEP so it can be harder to get the teachers to follow them. Whichever you do this sets up legal protections and accommodations for your son. Personally, I also think it helps with college too because they have this sort of get out of jail card that says "hey look I overcame this thing to do alright." It's the kind of story they appreciate. Just my take on it.

The 504 and IEP will also create additional resources for the school, so they aren't opposed to them. Some teachers can be resistant to accommodating, but that's between the school and them. With one of those set up the school has to oblige.

The difficulty for you then is to figure out what goes into the plan. It can cover all sorts of stuff even appropriate discipline approaches.

I can speak to some of what you could do, but can only talk about what worked for my son. The school should help you with what goes in it and you'll review at least once a year.

I hope this helps.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 3/26/2024, 11:37 AM
@Origame - you should talk to Reuters then because they found zero evidence of it and it's not like they are a biased publication.
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