AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Rumored New Details On Doctor Doom And Plans For The Spider-Men - Possible SPOILERS

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Rumored New Details On Doctor Doom And Plans For The Spider-Men - Possible SPOILERS

We have a fresh round of Avengers: Doomsday rumours to share with you today, including possible details on how Doctor Doom will be portrayed and plans for Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men...

By JoshWilding - Dec 11, 2024 04:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Following the news that Chris Evans has joined the cast of Avengers: Doomsday, interest in the movie has quickly started to rise. The Multiverse opens the door to endless possibilities, and with Doctor Doom taking Kang the Conqueror's place, we're all eager to learn more about the 2026 release.

According to The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez, Doctor Strange is "60%" the reason that "there's a Secret Wars happening." We've already seen the damage his Variants have done to the Multiverse and we can only assume that whatever he and Clea have been up to has done little to help matters. 

As for the other 40%, the scooper points to Spider-Man, the Scarlet Witch, Loki, and Doctor Doom. 

Original plans called for the Multiverse's Mightiest Heroes battling Kang's Variants in Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, but with Doom now front and centre, what should we expect from the villain played by Robert Downey Jr.? 

"The biggest advice I can give everyone [right now] heading into these films is to pretty much erase everything you think you know about Doctor Doom moving forward," Perez says. "Yes, Doom is a massive villain in the comics and in media, but they’re going to give him the Thanos treatment."

"He’ll be presented as the antagonist to the Avengers, sure," he continued. "But the way they do it is going to make it seem as though Doom has a point in what he’s doing. So much so that it’ll make you question whether Doom is the villain, or if he’s actually the hero."

He'd later go on to say that the stories of Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's respective Spider-Men will "end in the next 3 years," adding, "You're not getting solo films from them."

Finally, he shared the names of six actors and characters we should expect to see in Avengers: Doomsday alongside Evans, Benedict Cumberbatch, and Tom Holland: 

- Brie Larson as Captain Marvel
- Iman Vellani as Kamala Khan
- Chris Hemsworth as Thor
- Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner
- Paul Rudd as Ant-Man
- Benedict Wong as Wong

Rumours continue to swirl about Marvel Studios' plans for these movies and we're sure scoopers will continue churning out wild claims right up until that release date. However, everything here sounds pretty plausible and Doom is sounding like a far more effective antagonist than the likes of Rama-Tut and the Scarlet Centurion.

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027.

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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 12/11/2024, 5:12 AM
Whatever it is, make it exceptional..... make it a reason to care about secret wars, and make it all circle back to a new beginning that is better for the mistakes that came beforehand.

Oh, and make Logan short, and make Justin Long Bruce Banner
Fogs
Fogs - 12/11/2024, 5:28 AM
Eh, let's see. I don't have high expectations, unfortunately.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/11/2024, 6:22 AM
I’m confused…

Why would I need to forget everything I have known about Doom moving forward just because this version might have a point like Thanos and other villains in media have had?.

I guess it depends on the writer but Doom isn’t always written as a egotistical mustache twirling villain with no depth especially nowadays…

Hell , one of my favorite Doom moments in his facing off against Bast in Doomwar.

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That above complexity is what makes Doom one of if not the greatest villain is because he truly believes in what he is doing and along the way, might even make you believe aswell which if that’s the route they are going then I’m all for!!.

Honestly , RDJ even hinted at it during his reveal when he said “new mask , same task” so likely this Doom believes he is saving the universe in some way.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 12/11/2024, 6:22 AM
Does CBM work for Cosmic Circle jerk? I mean I get the guy has a "history" but Wilding, bro.. its been what? Fast approaching 20 years... (you can tell im not a Perez fan)...
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 12/11/2024, 6:23 AM
That is some pretty generalized guessing. You could make the argument that Thanos had the same type of “was he right?” in the MCU. He killed half the universe for plentiful resources versus the comics where he wants Death to bang him.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 12/11/2024, 6:28 AM
@FrankenDad - Right? I mean I have absolutely made the "Thanos was right" argument. I think there are coffee mugs with that statement on etsy. :D
I hope they dont take they cheap way out and use a similar argument for Doom.

But seriously... Thanos was right. He wasnt a bad guy, he was trying to save the multiverse and all worlds at any cost. Annnnnnnnnnnnd just like in real life, resources are finite. There has to be correction. ;)
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 12/11/2024, 6:30 AM
@FrankenDad - Maybe Marvel could use that thought as a self reflection... The universe is Marvel, the fans are Thanos. If we dont like what we see, we can snap our fingers and destroy their world (or at least half of it). So, they should use their finite resources to make sure we are getting a good product so we dont snap. :P
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 12/11/2024, 7:14 AM
@AgentofSH1ELD - Thanos was an idealistic pragmatist, whose ethical foundations made him an absolute villain.

Also, with the pragmatist ideal in mind, he could have thought a little outside the box and just increased the resources to an unlimited scale, or spread things out to create a perpetual system of growth, where the creature-resource ratio would keep at a constant state of plenty. But no, he had to kill half the universe and leave the other half with suicidal trauma.
kg8817
kg8817 - 12/11/2024, 7:16 AM
@FrankenDad - There was a rumor like 2 years ago that said Loki season 2 and Quantumania were leading to Kang Dynasty to basically tell the story that Kang survived the first Multiversal war and is now starting a second one, not because of his variants, but because of Stephen Strange’s. That across the multiverse, he was the greatest threat. MoM touched on this, and they said that Kang was going to be presented as the hero and 616 Strange essentially the villain.

It sounds like they’re keeping this storyline, and using Doom instead of Kang which works MUCH better as it fits Doom’s entire character.

I really don’t have a problem with this as I do not need to see Doom fight the fantastic four. Like I get people want to see that but for years we have been asking them to do Doom right, which at its essence means use Doom as a Marvel universe threat, which they’re doing here regardless of RDJ or not.

It works and I understand people don’t like it and I absolutely think Disney has a huge uphill battle to get the general public onboard with Downey back as Doom, but I think the core character arc for him can work very well. I’m cautiously optimistic.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 12/11/2024, 6:25 AM
Either way, lets just ask MTTS his theory. ugh.

I hope they just do Doom justice. IDFC what else happens. Doom is one of the most iconic/recognizable villains in all of media. Marvel: dont [frick] this up.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 12/11/2024, 6:27 AM
So if they make Doom the ultimate big bad here, could he still be used as a villain in future Fantastic Four movies? IF you catch my drift
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/11/2024, 6:36 AM
@HammerLegFoot - I think that’s part of the reason some have an issue with this is that I doubt we get RDJ as Doom for more then these 2 films so likely we’ll have to get a new actor post SW to play the role which could be confusing and at that point feels like they should have just waited instead

Plus to have him be the main baddie in this big epic film then go back to FF where while it still can be big , it still won’t be to that level feels like a step back.

We’ll see but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the last we see of Doom , for awhile atleast.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/11/2024, 6:50 AM
The people being responsible for Secret Wars happening just seems obvious to me since besides Doom as of yet , they are the only ones that have had any interaction with the Multiverse (maybe Ant Man & co too but barely).

Also I do hope the Tobey & Andrew Spidey variants stories do end after Secret Wars aswell as the Fox-Men (including Jackman) and other pre MCU Marvel characters…

Start with a clean slate in the likely soft reboot!!.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 12/11/2024, 7:09 AM
You can’t make the villain so understandable that he becomes a good guy. Otherwise you’d make the heroes obsolete….or worse villains themselves.

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