AVENGERS: ENDGAME Writer Reveals That Thanos Let The Heroes Kill Him In The Opening Act

AVENGERS: ENDGAME Writer Reveals That Thanos Let The Heroes Kill Him In The Opening Act

Avengers: Endgame left everyone reeling when Thor decapitated Thanos in the movie's opening act, and one of the writers has now revealed that it was something the Mad Titan may have actually wanted...

By JoshWilding - Aug 01, 2019 02:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Endgame
Avengers: Endgame is full of huge surprises, but one of the biggest comes very early on when Earth's Mightiest Heroes track down Thanos and put an end to the Mad Titan once and for all. 

This happens when Thor uses Stormbreaker to decapitate the villain, and now writer Christopher Markus has revealed that the only reason the team was able to deliver this killing blow to Thanos was because he allowed them to. He was badly weakened by using the Infinity Gauntlet to destroy the Stones, but it sounds like the writer believes that he was still strong enough to take on the heroes. 

"They only accomplish what Thanos lets them accomplish," Markus explains during the Director's Commentary for the Marvel Studios movie. "He has finished his job and lets them kill him." 

The 2014 version of Thanos didn't feel the same way, hence why he came to Earth to destroy the team and once again use the Stones to enact his new plan: creating a universe where people wouldn't remember what they had lost. That also led to his eventual death, of course, this time at the hands of Tony Stark after he unleashed the power of the Stones via a gauntlet of his own. 

How did you guys feel about the way Thanos' demise was handled in Avengers: Endgame?

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Marvel Studios' own Trinity assembles here and, as you can see, Robert Downey Jr. isn't even decked out in his armour! Thor, meanwhile, has yet to undergo his Viking-like transformation.
 
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As you'll see by watching the featurettes on the digital release of Avengers: Endgame, when Cap is swinging Mjolnir in the movie, there's actually no hammer on the end of the weapon's handle!
 
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This behind the scenes shot puts the spotlight on Robert Downey Jr. as he takes advice from the Russo Brothers for what was a pretty momentous moment as he recorded a farewell message.
 
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The diner scene was added in reshoots when the filmmakers decided to scrap Bruce Banner's transformation into Smart Hulk in Avengers: Infinity War. Here, we get to see how that was set-up.
 
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This costume didn't last particularly long, as it was only used in Captain Marvel's post-credits scene and Avengers: Endgame's opening sequence with Iron Man and Thanos on Titan II. 
 
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This was hard to see unless you watched an IMAX version of Endgame, but when Carol Danvers was hanging around the Avengers Compound, she actually had the suit on beneath that tank top.
 
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When the final battle was being shot, Carol Danvers may have had shorter hair, but she was decked out in her original suit. Those tracking marks were there to change it in post-production, though.
 
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The cast stops for a brief moment of levity on the movie's set. It's amazing to see the changes these characters go through in the post-production stage (Iron Man and Spider-Man, for example). 
 
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This moment is bound to go down in history as being pretty momentous as it's the first time our new Captain America wielded his shield. As you can see, the rebuilt version has been redesigned. 
 
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A-Force assembles! These female heroes coming together was a great moment and one that definitely would have inspired a lot of people out there regardless of what gender they happen to be.
 
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Marvel Studios clearly didn't want the paparazzi getting any shots of these characters, hence why massive green screens have been constructed. These shots definitely would have got fans talking!
 
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Who said Brie Larson never smiles, eh? (well, trolls mostly). In this image, we see the Oscar-winning actress holding the Stark Gauntlet as she races through the battlefield.
 
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Marvel Studios clearly didn't ever plan on making practical versions of the Team Suits, which is why the heroes are decked out in their regular outfits for the costumes to then be added down the line. 
 
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Gwyneth Paltrow finally got the chance to suit up in Avengers: Endgame, but just like Robert Downey Jr., she only had to wear the top half of the armour as the rest was added with visual effects.
 
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A-Force runs into action here, and what an awesome sight it makes for. Fans are hopeful that an all-female team could assemble down the line, but nothing has been confirmed yet.
 
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The women of A-Force come together to celebrate finishing their scenes. For these stars, it must have been quite an occasion and things really are changing for female superheroes on screen. 
 
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What a transformation for the God of Thunder! He was completely unrecognisable by the time we caught up with him after that five year time-jump and clearly in a deep stage of depression. 
 
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And now we know how the hunky Chris Hemsworth was transformed into the "Bro" version of Thor. That suit can't have been light, but it's shocking how realistic it looks on the Aussie actor. 
 
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Hawkeye's transformation into Ronin will be explored in his solo series on Disney+, and this stunning behind the scenes shot from his reunion with Black Widow serves as a pretty nice teaser. 
 
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This is clearly from a costume test as Chris Hemsworth's God of Thunder sits back in his new attire and a rather snazzy pair of Crocs. Who could have guessed we'd ever see this on the big screen? 
 
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Some have accused Marvel Studios of using Bro Thor solely for comedic purposes, but his story arc was a lot of fun and his transformation into this version of the God of Thunder was definitely awesome. 
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bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 8/1/2019, 2:45 AM
I really like how this Thanos was portrayed and this answer fits that character. I saw it as that he accepts the personal losses that come with a win, and this pretty much confirms that.

Also, is it just me or is the site extra slow today?
Luminus
Luminus - 8/1/2019, 5:11 AM
@MalseMarcel - If it was any slower, it would be frozen.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/1/2019, 2:46 AM
FUN FACT people are now claiming that they also stole Thor chopping Thanos' head off from Zack Snyder's original idea of Justice League with Diana chopping off Steppenwolf's head.

That bastard Geoff Johns is a snake I tell ya.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 8/1/2019, 2:57 AM
@Kurne -

You can't steal an idea that was never used in a film that doesn't even exist.

Humperdink
Humperdink - 8/1/2019, 2:51 AM
It didn't seem that he was in any condition to stop them either way, but I'm sure he probably didn't care if he died at that point. The work was done. I just don't think saying he let them do it means anything when he couldn't stop them anyway.

The brotha was brunt up, stone-less, crippled, and eating space beans & rice. 🤭

Vigor
Vigor - 8/1/2019, 4:17 AM
@Humperdink - this
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 8/1/2019, 9:02 AM
@Humperdink - All beans are space beans bruh.

Origame
Origame - 8/1/2019, 2:56 AM
Yeah we already established these guys dont realize what they're writing. They seem to think steve rogers travelled back to the main timeline past, even though thats against the rules for timetravel they established.

Captain marvel was able to take a hit from thanos without even flinching by the end of the movie. And thats thanos in his prime. How can she somehow not be strong enough to fight a much weaker version of thanos?
Kumkani
Kumkani - 8/1/2019, 3:08 AM
@Origame - She used her full powers against Thanos towards the end of the film and not in the beginning
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 8/1/2019, 3:24 AM
@DnA - that contradicts the statements from this article. It says Thanos let the Avengers kill him, including Captain marvel and whatever powerlevel she happened to have at that moment.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 3:40 AM
@DnA - Can't believe I'm saying this but I 100% agree with @Origame on this. She didn't use her full powers on him at the beginning because 1) The goal was not to kill him before forcing him to reverse the snap or get the stones so they could. 2) Thanos never fought back at all, why would she need full power to restrain someone who is surrendering?

Also it's not like she gain more power between the beginning of the film and the end, as far as we know she was always powerful enough to take a power stone punch to the face and live.

Which means she could have easily went full Kratos on Thanos in the beginning of the film if she wanted to.

Origame
Origame - 8/1/2019, 4:58 AM
@LongMayHeReign - wow. Agreement from longmayhereign? Im happy for it, but this feels like a sign for the apocalypse at this point. Better go see if dogs and cats are living together.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 9:11 AM
@Origame - I'm never above agreement when it makes sense, but it's nice and sunny over here and my dog tried to [frick] my neighbor's cat up this morning so it's not end times yet.
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/1/2019, 11:31 AM
@Ryguy88 - They’re saying that he didn’t put up a fight or defend himself.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 8/1/2019, 12:43 PM
@newhire13 - yeah, and if he was in a weakened state at the beginning, if he wanted to put up a fight, how would he be able to when the same writers have Captain Marvel not flinching vs a full powered Thanos with the Gauntlet later on in the film?

Thanos didnt make a choice at the beginning to be killed because he couldnt stop it from happening if he wanted to.
Robby
Robby - 8/1/2019, 3:19 AM
The more the writers and Russos talk about this movie, the more sick of it Im becoming. Why can't they leave it up for the fans to interpret this movie like Kubrick and Nolan did.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 3:29 AM
@Robby - They aren't openly gong around talking about it to anyone who walks by tho. This was from the film commentary, and other than the SDCC panel where they openly talked about it, they are being asked questions and simply answering them. They had a huge part in the making of the highest grossing film in history so it's natural that they are being requested for numerous interviews.
Robby
Robby - 8/1/2019, 10:17 AM
@LongMayHeReign - Great now I look stupid because I forgot to mention that I know this the the film commentary. Aside from that, they're really making this film seem forgettable with everything they're revealing about this movie that we didn't see. I guess it's just me though.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 10:28 AM
@Robby - I think it is just you because majority of people don't even care about what could've been they just care about what is. Yet at the same time I can understand you feeling that way. That's personally why I don't click on every Wilding article about the subject, he has a tendency of over saturating a topic to where you don't care anymore.
CaptCoulson
CaptCoulson - 8/1/2019, 10:54 AM
@LongMayHeReign - But also I have no doubt that this site, especially certain employees, have taken where there was one particular interview done by, say, the Russos at a given day and venue, and there wound up being like 3-5 different articles created from it, each highlighting one separate answer/topic.
That can help make it seem like they're just out there talking about it constantly when it's not quite the genuine case.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 11:08 AM
@CaptCoulson - Oh without question that's a fact. The media ruins everything so they can push agendas and make money.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 8/1/2019, 3:22 AM
It seemed pretty evident that he was just too weak to do anything. They could basically make another movie about everything the writers and directors said happened but didnt actually happen.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/1/2019, 3:32 AM
So can everyone finally admit that Endgame isn't the gigantic masterpiece everyone claimed it was initially, and that Infinity War was much better?
PantherKing
PantherKing - 8/1/2019, 3:35 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Nah Endgame was better IMO.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 3:49 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Not sure how this makes the film any less masterful imo. If they want to interpret that scene that way it doesn't change how interpret it. I always believed Thanos let them kill him because he never tried at all to fight back, even with his good arm which Rhodey was holding which is strong enough to deliver hurting blows to the Hulk.

But there's no way Thanos has any chance of surviving that encounter whether he wanted to or not that's just factually obvious.
Kurne
Kurne - 8/1/2019, 3:52 AM
@CorndogBurglar - only if everyone who was claiming last year that Infinity War wasn't the gigantic masterpiece everyone claimed it was, will stop pretending they think Infinity War is a masterpiece now just so they can downplay Endgame all of a sudden.

JamesPunn
JamesPunn - 8/1/2019, 4:43 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Nah. I hardly ever rewatch movies I've already seen unless it's with someone else, but with Endgame, I fully intend to sit down and take in all three hours as soon as the Blu-ray drops. It's just so well done.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/1/2019, 5:11 AM
@CorndogBurglar

IW > EG (for me)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/1/2019, 5:27 AM
@LongMayHeReign - neither are "masterpieces". Infinity War just raised one issue for me, which was the fact that Thanos' plan made absolutely no sense.

But Endgame has so many issues and even the creators of the film can't explain them.

At least in Infinity War you could convince yourself that Thanos is just crazy. In Endgame they contradicted rules they set up in the same film that kind of make some things non-sensical. And also, for me anyway, time travel was a cop out.

I don't dislike Endgame, but it's not the end all be all Marvel film.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 8/1/2019, 5:31 AM
@CorndogBurglar - i agree. IW is better (Imo) than Endgame. Both are my top 2 fav MCU movies to date
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/1/2019, 5:33 AM
@LongMayHeReign - I didn't mean to sound like THIS is the one reason why Endgame isn't a masterpiece.

It's just that I don't see how people can claim Endgame is a masterpiece when you take all the issues that have been discussed a million times and then to find out that we are still getting silly explanations for things that weren't portrayed in the film.

This comment he's making doesn't make sense. You mean to tell me that Thanos didn't care if he died because he already accomplished his goal, so he just doesn't even try? Even though he's still strong enough to take them on? Come on...
Victorg1983
Victorg1983 - 8/1/2019, 5:59 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I loved IW and that movie will be very hard for anyone to top in my eyes. as far as EG to me the movie was pretty much built around that final battle which was nearly perfect. but the rest of the movie left a lot to be desired IMO
heisei24
heisei24 - 8/1/2019, 7:21 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I still prefer Endgame honestly.
Sure, Thanos' rush for the stones was great and thrilling, but Endgame's down-to-earth drama, plus delivering a great conclusion was just a lot more satisfying to me.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 8/1/2019, 8:16 AM
@CorndogBurglar - In my opinion Infinity War is even the best MCU movie, but definitely not my favorite. That honor still goes to The Winter Soldier
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 9:16 AM
@MalseMarcel -

LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 8/1/2019, 9:36 AM
@CorndogBurglar - It makes perfect sense actually, what more does he have left to fight for? He has no more purpose, no more family, no more drive to go on. He was going to sit on that farm and wait to die of natural causes which for him could be hundreds of thousands of years.

How many times in movies or real life have you seen people die after battling an illness or just die of old age even though they clearly have the strength to live much longer or fight the illness? Remember Padme dying of a broken heart even though she was physically fine? She lost the will to live and gave in to death. Thanos spent a lifetime to fulfill one goal and he accomplished it, and then to his knowledge made sure it could not be undone giving him nothing left to do.

Now whether you want to debate the writers as to him actually being able to defeat the Avengers in the state he was in and with them having Carol? Well that's a different story, he gets murked by them easy!
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