THE DARK KNIGHT Director Christopher Nolan On Why The Movie's Most Famous Line Still Plagues Him

THE DARK KNIGHT Director Christopher Nolan On Why The Movie's Most Famous Line Still Plagues Him

The Dark Knight Trilogy director Christopher Nolan has reflected on casting Cillian Murphy as the evil Scarecrow in 2005's Batman Begins and reveals the one line from The Dark Knight which haunts him.

By JoshWilding - Feb 26, 2024 02:02 PM EST
Filed Under: The Dark Knight
Source: Deadline

All three instalments of The Dark Knight Trilogy are rightfully considered classics, but it's 2008's The Dark Knight which will likely be remembered as one of the greatest superhero movies ever made. 

Among its many incredible qualities is the sequel's iconic dialogue, including an exchange between Harvey Dent and Bruce Wayne which sees the former say, "You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain." For filmmaker Christopher Nolan, the line still weighs heavily on him. 

"I’m plagued by a line from The Dark Knight, and I’m plagued by it because I didn’t write it," he tells Deadline. "My brother [Jonathan] wrote it. It kills me, because it’s the line that most resonates. And at the time, I didn’t even understand it. He says, 'You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain.'"

"I read it in his draft, and I was like, 'All right, I’ll keep it in there, but I don’t really know what it means. Is that really a thing?' And then, over the years since that film’s come out, it just seems truer and truer. In this story, it’s absolutely that. Build them up, tear them down. It’s the way we treat people."

The interview, which was conducted to promote Oppenheimer's awards campaign, also covered Nolan's decision to cast Cillian Murphy as the villainous Scarecrow in Batman Begins.

"I don’t remember having any resistance whatsoever to having a relative unknown take on a big part like that," Nolan recalls. "And previously all those villains were played by actors like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Jack Nicholson. They were the biggest stars in the films. But no, [the studio] got it. They were all blown away by the test."

"I don’t think [Cillian] had the physicality [for Batman] at the time. We tested everyone as Bruce Wayne and we tested them as Batman, and the thing that Christian had that was so striking was that he understood that so much of acting is about reality. So much of acting is about emotional truth. And when you put on a costume like the Batsuit, you have to become this icon."

"Christian had this crazy energy that he just directed," the director added. "He’d figured out how that worked and what that would be — the way Bruce Wayne does in the film. He adopts this persona. It’s a very specific thing. And he tore a hole on the screen as Batman. It was like, there was no question."

Murphy would reprise his role as the twisted Dr. Jonathan Crane in The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises, turning him into a recurring threat to the Caped Crusader. While the Irish actor initially hoped to play Batman himself, we'd say things worked out for the best. 

Nolan will likely win "Best Director" at the Oscars next month, while Murphy is a firm favourite for "Best Actor." We're guessing Oppenheimer will also walk away with the Academy Award for "Best Film."

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 2/26/2024, 3:00 PM
Perfect line from a perfect movie
tylerzero
tylerzero - 2/26/2024, 3:24 PM
@FireandBlood -

CoHost
CoHost - 2/26/2024, 3:31 PM
@tylerzero - Annie Murphy ❤️❤️❤️
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 2/26/2024, 5:27 PM
@FireandBlood - I still don't understand why they couldn't have just said one of Joker's goons killed Dent. They were already lying. Pinning it on Batman made no sense.
TheOtherOn
TheOtherOn - 2/26/2024, 3:03 PM
TheOtherOn
TheOtherOn - 2/26/2024, 3:05 PM
@TheOtherOn -

HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 2/26/2024, 3:08 PM
I'm amazed at the amount of people that didnt like this movie
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 2/26/2024, 3:13 PM
@HammerLegFoot - I didn't dislike the movie... I just didn't think it was as good as the other two. But it's still a great movie.

AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/26/2024, 3:13 PM
@HammerLegFoot -


Where they at?👮
KurtLazner
KurtLazner - 2/26/2024, 3:29 PM
@HammerLegFoot - It's just one of those movies that's so good it's popular to hate
Fogs
Fogs - 2/26/2024, 4:11 PM
@HammerLegFoot - It's an aweeeesome MOVIE.

Begins, IMHO, is a better BATMAN movie.
JonC
JonC - 2/26/2024, 6:43 PM
@Nomis929 - The one that had a ton going for it was with Heath... and he stole the show... Batman was playing second fiddle...
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 2/26/2024, 10:10 PM
@JonC - I wasn't the biggest fan of Ledger's Joker.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 2/26/2024, 10:10 PM
@Fogs - Agreed.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 2/26/2024, 3:09 PM
"All three instalments of The Dark Knight Trilogy are rightfully considered classics"

I don't know that many consider The Dark Knight Rises a classic.

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/26/2024, 3:17 PM
@Izaizaiza - At the time all you could hear was 'waaaah', but compared to every movie DC has put out since (including Wonder Woman, Joker and The Batman) it really holds up.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 2/26/2024, 3:14 PM
Aaron Eckhart perfomance as Harvey/Two Face is greatly underrated.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/26/2024, 3:19 PM
@Nomis929 - His chin is underrated. We really don't give Aaron Eckhart's chin the credit it deserves. I feel like he needs a classical superhero role to really show off that gift from the gods.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 2/26/2024, 3:24 PM
@ObserverIO - LOL!!!!!

Well, maybe some day we'll finally get around to making a movie about the CRIMSON CHIN!

RolandD
RolandD - 2/26/2024, 3:59 PM
@Nomis929 - Absolutely. It was hard for anybody’s performance to get much recognition with Ledger’s performance.
elgaz
elgaz - 2/26/2024, 5:32 PM
@Nomis929 - I’ve always loved his performance but couldn’t figure out just why, when Ledger is doing so much more crazy stuff on screen that looks more dramatic and theatrical. But I watched a YouTube reactor recently and she got it; she commented that Dent is presented as a good guy and incorruptible, but he has this glint in his eye and mannerisms that makes it seem like he’s on the cusp of madness at times. And true to form, the Joker pushes him over the edge
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