CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Star Anthony Mackie Explains How Sam Wilson Is Able To Battle Red Hulk

CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Star Anthony Mackie Explains How Sam Wilson Is Able To Battle Red Hulk

Captain America: Brave New World star Anthony Mackie has addressed Sam Wilson's lack of superpowers as the MCU's new Captain America gears up for a battle with the villainous Red Hulk. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Nov 21, 2024 09:11 AM EST
Source: Deadline

Sam Wilson became the MCU's new Captain America in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, though we won't get to see what he can really do until next February's Captain America: Brave New World

While the movie appears to be going for the same grounded tone as 2014's Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Sam will also be pitted against Red Hulk. He's an immensely powerful foe who would give Steve Rogers a run for his money, never mind a regular guy like the former Falcon.

Talking at the Disney APAC Content Showcase in Singapore, Anthony Mackie addressed how the new Captain America will deal with superpowered threats when he has no Super Soldier Serum pumping through his veins. 

"Sam’s evolution is simple. He’s still a counsellor. He’s still serving soldiers, but at the same time, now he’s a leader of his community in the country," the actor started. "It’s very different with the serum - you can fight anybody. When you don’t have the serum, you have to be smart and engineer different ways of defeating [enemies]."

"With Sam, him being a counselor, he uses more of his brains than brawn. He uses more of his wit than his fist. He’s more of a friend to everyone."

However, even though Sam has no superpowers, it's his suit that promises to even the odds in Captain America: Brave New World. "It’s a high-tech suit. I went to Wakanda, met with everybody in Wakanda, we had dinner. It was a great time. They threw me a welcome party. It was dope. But when I was leaving, they gave me a suit, right?"

"I put it on. I can kick harder, I can fly faster, and it gives me the ability to be more agile in my skills, so it’s taking all my skills to a completely different level."

While Macke was clearly having fun with those remarks, this is confirmation his suit will enhance the hero's abilities, including his strength. 

As for what fans can expect from the latest Captain America adventure, he teased, "If you look at these Marvel movies, they go with different genres. You have the fantasy world, you have the space world, you have the raccoon world. With the Captain America stories, it has always been the realistic, grounding world."

"This movie stays in the line with the original Captain America, of that thrill, of that espionage, of that grounded nature with storytelling and really investing the actual audience into the story," Mackie concluded.

Marvel Studios could have quite easily given Sam the Super Soldier Serum in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier but decided not to, presumably so they can tell some different stories with the new Captain America. It's certainly made his upcoming battle with Red Hulk all the more intriguing, anyway.

Captain America: Brave New World opens in U.S. theaters on February 14, 2025.

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Spoken
Spoken - 11/21/2024, 9:12 AM
......So plot armor? Got it.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 11/21/2024, 10:01 AM
@Spoken - Well said, again, well said.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/21/2024, 11:29 AM
@Spoken - he just sounds like Iron Man now
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 11/21/2024, 9:12 AM
"....by calling in more powerful Avengers for help!"

Any other answer is wrong
AllsGood
AllsGood - 11/21/2024, 9:13 AM
Very Excited for Captain America: Brave New World. Will be there Opening Night with a Party of 4

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McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/21/2024, 11:29 AM
@AllsGood - you'd suck a fart if Kevin puffed it your way bud.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/21/2024, 1:01 PM
@McMurdo - He'd suck a fart out of big Kev arse.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/21/2024, 9:16 AM
I just wish more of the suit actually looked like it's a tech marvel from Wakanda... It kinda doesn't look that way...
RolandD
RolandD - 11/21/2024, 9:23 AM
@Slotherin - It would be cool if it lit up with red, white and blue lights in the way T’Challa’s had purple lights, not on all of the time and subtle, but noticeable .
supermanrex
supermanrex - 11/21/2024, 9:36 AM
i dont understand why people act like they are new to [frick]ing comic books all of sudden. there are constantly David vs Goliath moments in comics in which brain power, skill and training help win the day. Batman, Black widow, HawkEye, Green Arrow and on and on and on. But Sam Wilson is suddenly excluded from have that benefit of the doubt???? Hell even Steve Rogers with the serum is severely outmatched vs Hulk. Steve went against Thanos before he picked up the hammer and it was okay to fans. Cause super soldier serum really evens the playing field against a being like Thanos.C'mon!!! Its [frick]ing double standards.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/21/2024, 9:39 AM
@supermanrex - Hawkeye has beaten the Hulk multiple times in different universes.

But the issue is people don't actually know the comics and can't seem to fathom basic concepts like winning a fight without using your fist.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/21/2024, 9:53 AM
@supermanrex - I think it's because Sam appears to be going head on with Red Hulk instead of say keeping his distance and slinging a rock
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/21/2024, 9:54 AM
@supermanrex - also Steve got laid down by Thanos, it wasn't even
supermanrex
supermanrex - 11/21/2024, 10:00 AM
@Slotherin - oh yeah he did for sure. my point is people didn't find it to be some sort of giant plot hole that he even fights Thanos at all. People forget what makes these people heroes is they dont sit their and calculate their risk , they jump right into the fire and the odds be damned. but with Sam its bitching and moaning about this doesn't make sense he doesn't stand a chance and blah blah blah.
Matador
Matador - 11/21/2024, 10:03 AM
@supermanrex @Itwasme - If you have a picture of a regular human holding a shield to block a Hulk punch it won't matter how smart you are you will be sent flying like you got hit by a bus or train. Steve serum was super soldier increasing him above human levels higher than Olympic champions so can he probably take a hulk punch with his shield? Yes it helps since the shield also absorbs impacts so with his added strength he could hold his ground. Just not a regular human attempting that.

Tech helps but unless his got an Ironman suit on it's the only way to go toe to toe with a Hulk.

supermanrex
supermanrex - 11/21/2024, 10:04 AM
@Slotherin - these heros always square up and go head on with foes that outclass them. Falcon in the comics with just [frick]ing feather wings has jumped into cosmic and demonic avengers emergencies with no second thought. that is the point of the hero. to face impossible odds. in an universe with battle suits, magic potions, alien tech, people shouldnt ask how someone like Sam a trained soldier could do this. Batman does all the [frick]ing time. Batman gets dragged across the mud by Darkseid all the time, no questions his motive to go against him.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/21/2024, 10:07 AM
@Itwasme - bbbbbbbingo
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/21/2024, 10:15 AM
@supermanrex - i think you're severely underestimating how much a lot of us call bullshit when Batman does something like take on Darkseid
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/21/2024, 10:15 AM
@Matador - you have a promo picture, not a movie shot. Do you really think all promo images happen in the movies?!?!
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/21/2024, 10:16 AM
@Matador - nah, everyone knows people only have an issue with this cuz he's black... Duh... ;)
Matador
Matador - 11/21/2024, 10:18 AM
@Itwasme - That's the argument here isn't it?
Matador
Matador - 11/21/2024, 10:20 AM
@Slotherin - Personally not that his black I just don't think his gear or his physical without some support could literally stop a Hulk punch. If his suit looked something out of SilverHawks then [frick] yeah he could handle that punch no problem.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 11/21/2024, 10:20 AM
@MotherGooseUPus -

No, it's

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Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/21/2024, 10:56 AM
@Matador - we haven't seen it yet to draw any conclusion either way, but to act like it's impossible is ridiculous given the precedent set in the comics. Time and time again we see people jump to conclusions and time and time again they are wrong. Remember when She-Hulk was going to be stronger than Hulk?!?!?! People never learn.
Matador
Matador - 11/21/2024, 11:06 AM
@Itwasme - To be fair Falcon in the comic books didn't really fair well against his power levels but his great against soldiers & street thugs. Falcon is better suited street level threats to espionage spy stuff.

She-Hulk has never been stronger than Hulk, ever.
Slotherin
Slotherin - 11/21/2024, 11:07 AM
@Matador - i was being sarcastic.
I agree with what you said, I'm just mocking people's tendency to make it as if everyone taking issue is doing so because of race.
Spoken
Spoken - 11/21/2024, 11:08 AM
@Itwasme - Did Sam Wilson fight Red Hulk alone in the comics yes or no?
Matador
Matador - 11/21/2024, 11:11 AM
@Slotherin - LOL fair enough, still would have been cool if Wakanda made Black Panther vibranium suit looking like Falcon a catbird suit.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/21/2024, 12:14 PM
@supermanrex - You've made incredibly valid points. I believe there's a great place for strategically planned combat. Including precision traps, psychological mind bending, aerial assaults, and unknown technological assets would seemingly create an interesting battle. I hope MARVEL doesn't exchange the action for female savior, quirky qiups, "okay fight time is up" luck. We'll see.

PS: I believe Nerdotic and The Critical Drinker are going to eat this alive.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/21/2024, 12:17 PM
@Spoken - no, but Hawkeye has beaten regular Hulk (who is much stronger than Red Hulk) several times - so if non-powered people like Hawkeye can beat the Hulk, why can't a Vibranium powered Falcon do it? Isn't he better equipped to fight a less powerful Hulk than Hawkeye was to fight the stronger one?!?!

Spoken
Spoken - 11/21/2024, 12:50 PM
@Itwasme - no Exactly. Never and this leads to my point below

"but Hawkeye has beaten regular Hulk (who is much stronger than Red Hulk) several times"

There is a difference between slowing your opponent down versus outright defeating them to which you are confusing this with.

Incredible Hulk #166 he only managed to distract and slow down Hulk so the Avengers can regroup and help stop him, but he knew because of how strong Hulk was that he was incredibly outmatched. He only managed to hold his own for the team but if the team wasn't able to regroup, Hawkeye would of DIED.

Hulk: Future Imperfect his skeleton is shown in Maestros trophy room. Proving again...he was no match for Hulk.

In Ultimate Avengers vs New Avengers, same as issue 166 of TIH, shoot trick arrows and long range attacks enough to slow him down but knows he is unable to do it alone. He knows Hulk WILL WIN in a fight.

So back to my point from the very first comment, this is just plot armor and even in the comics these characters know they can't go up against someone like Hulk, it takes a combined group effort to try to defeat The Hulk. Hawkeye was NEVER able to hold his own for that long against The Hulk and he has admitted it. In fact, didn't he kill Bruce Banner in Civil War 2? That was the ONLY time he was able to technically defeat Hulk and it's only out of fear of the future that he was told about and again he only was able to kill BRUCE and not really Hulk. Big difference here.

Sure some characters can distract him in one on one battles, but not enough to really defeat him. Which is what you are arguing here. The human characters merely act as a distraction so that people with super powers can actually attempt to fight The Hulk.

But go ahead. Tell me some comics where Hawkeye literally BEAT The Hulk one on one, and stood over a defeated Hulk WITHOUT The Avengers. I provided instances, what about you? Or are you just saying it to remain protective over the product?
deamon
deamon - 11/21/2024, 9:40 AM
Different level, but still it's not Hulkbuster armor.
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/21/2024, 9:41 AM
Looking forward to this. I really hope it is good, I could use some MCU content with a bit of substance.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/21/2024, 9:41 AM
Really like they lean into his counseling background. Tbh, I kind of forgot about that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/21/2024, 9:44 AM
@Itwasme - yeah

I hope we see that in the film a lot

We kinda had that at times in FaTWS especially when he goes to talk to Karli at her adopted mothers funeral.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/21/2024, 10:08 AM
@Itwasme - Bruce was able to control his Hulk persona there is no reason to believe Ross couldn’t do the same.

In reality, we haven’t seen much from The Leader yet. He’s likely still the guy behind the scenes. Sam will likely be playing defense a lot in a head to head which is fine.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/21/2024, 10:13 AM
@mountainman - yep. We really just haven't seen it yet, but people love to jump to conclusions - no matter how many times they've been proven wrong in the past.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/21/2024, 10:58 AM
@Itwasme - People just like to bitch. Many on this site are experts
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 11/21/2024, 12:42 PM
@Itwasme - A lot keep talking as if Rulk is the villain when it is obvious he isn't, just needs to be held at arms length drawn away from killing people long enough to be talked down ultimately or distracted whilst someone takes a shot at him with an adamantium dart full or an antidote or some such to revert him back to human form.
CharlesLeeRay
CharlesLeeRay - 11/21/2024, 9:49 AM
Lets be real, Bucky and Steve got really buffed (whereas powerfull beings like Thor and Hulk always have had to be nerfed down), showing feats beyond a supersoldier could do; now Sam is gonna be put over as well; but we all know the main issue of people here…🧑🏾‍🦱
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