Open Letter to Comic Fans - Who really wins in the end?

Open Letter to Comic Fans - Who really wins in the end?

Nolanites vs. Whedonites... TDKR vs. The Avengers... WB vs. Disney... Can't we all just get along?

Editorial Opinion
By AgentSmith - May 16, 2012 12:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Comics



Hello my fellow fans of the illustrated magazine and graphic novel.

Although my identity is fairly new to this illustrious site, I have been more of a Watcher than a participator for as long as I can remember. The up-to-the-minute articles, the light hearted humor of the strong fan community, and the content of this site has served many hours of entertainment and news worthy articles that have made me a fan and a follower for years.

I would read through the articles with eagerness (skipping over anything I felt to spoilerific to the topic at hand), participate in the polls that I felt relevant (and glad to see that those have slowed down), and laughed out loud, more often than not, to the jabbering back and forth within the community.

However, especially with the release of The Avengers, there is a certain tug at my heart over the "WAR" between who will reign supreme at the box office. The banter can be funny at times, but there are those of us that seem to take this "competition" to heart. As I read the jabs of The Avengers over taking The Dark Knight, or how Nolan will reign supreme in the end, or even how WB can do nothing to stop the mouse train from running it’s course, I keep coming back to one question: Why does it matter???



As I exited the theater after being blown away by The Avengers for the first time, I found myself walking behind two elderly men and an elderly woman slowing making their way to the exit ahead of me. One of the men with his cane was rocking a Captain America T-shirt while the lady on his arm was wearing her Red, White, and Blue Flag Leather Jacket. As I was passing by, I saw him turn to his friends, and with a smile on his face say the following: “Well, it took them 60 years, but they finally got it right!” – Jesus Wept! As I come back to this site, that phrase holds more meaning me to me the more I spend time thinking about it.

Aside from a few gems, super hero movies in general, even well into the 90’s, did not give us reason to be proud. The technology did not exist and the audience would not support it. How we longed for more in between the years of Superman, Tim Burton's Batman, Conan, and a few others. But, as some stood on their own here and there, they just couldn't get it right.

But, the past 13 years, we have seen Spider-man, Iron Man, Batman, Green Lantern, Superman, Thor, X-men, Wolverine, Fantastic Four, and many, many more comic book heroes come to life on the big screen in a way we thought for so long would be impossible “to do right”. We are still riding high on the coattails of The Watchmen, 300, Sin City, and V for Vendetta, with so many more on the way. Have all of them been great movies? Of course not (Jonah Hex and Priest come to mind)! But the success of these movies has given us adults an opportunity to allow us to wear a spider-man shirt in public and have it be “cool” again. We can talk to our co-workers about The Hulk without having to wince of the outcome. People know who Silver Surfer is and can relate to Dr. Octopus as a villain. The comic book stores are picking up in business and reaching out to an even broader audience more now than ever before. And, what may be the top of the hill, these are movies we can take our ladies too. Oh how sweet it is!

We, as a fan of the medium, should be basking in the glory and success that these movies have brought onto our community as it means so much more than dollar bills. We should remain united and demand from our studios the product to be akin to the likes of The Dark Knight, The Avengers, and The Watchmen. I think Joss Whedon said it best when asked about the success of The Avengers compared to what is to be the success of The Dark Knight Returns:

"Let's look at the bigger picture: Our successes are a boon to each other. We're in the business of proving that superhero movies aren't just eye-candy. People seem intent on setting us against each other, and though I'm proud to be Woody Strode to [Christopher] Nolan's Kirk Douglas, I think they're missing the point. Whatever 'TDKR' does on its first weekend, the only stat that matters to me is the ticket I'm definitely buying."

True words for True Believers. And let’s be honest, our collections don’t solely belong to Marvel, or are exclusive to DC, or only contain Vertigo comics. In most collections, they are not built exclusively around a single artist or purchased only for a sole writer. If you are a fan, you have a variety of books, with your favorite characters from different publishers, artists, and writers in your boxes. Why? Because we love the medium as a whole. Some books we love, some stories we hate, but either way we can’t get enough. Why should we treat our movies any differently?

As the bar has been raised from Superman, to Batman, to Spiderman, to Iron Man and now The Avengers, in the end, it is the fans that are the winners. I don't know about you, but I can't wait to see what's next!



I will anxiously await your banter below!

Thanks for taking the time to read my opinion.
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Kalel219
Kalel219 - 5/16/2012, 3:35 AM
Best article I've read on here in a long long time!
Minotauro
Minotauro - 5/16/2012, 7:19 AM
When a certain few or more get banned(marvelites) then the pointless war will end. Until then, their ain't no end in sight.
Zarog
Zarog - 5/16/2012, 7:55 AM
........Minotauro.................I think you missed the point.
antonio
antonio - 5/16/2012, 12:27 PM
PUT THIS ON MAIN NOW!
Thanos005
Thanos005 - 5/16/2012, 12:51 PM
*slow clap*

Excellent.
BlindLemonShemp
BlindLemonShemp - 5/16/2012, 2:35 PM
i didnt read all of the article, sorry... but it was the X-Men right?

its gotta be them... go X-Men! great pictures in the article by the way...hehe :)
marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/16/2012, 3:58 PM
well i will try and start a truce.as long as no nolanites start bashing marvel threads,and will post said nolanite that makes me break my truce.

i have no prob. with this,nolanites bashing all the marvel threads is the only reason i opened this account anyways.

you got 24 hours to stop nolanites,or its on again.

peace out.

ps this is a freebe minotauro,dont mistake kindness for weakness tho.

Minotauro - 5/16/2012, 7:19 AM
Report Comment When a certain few or more get banned(marvelites) then the pointless war will end. Until then, their ain't no end in sight

this wont help any after 24 hours,trust me.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/16/2012, 4:04 PM
very well written article,it should be on main.

@ minotauro

because its just marvelites isn't it. (rolls eyes)
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/16/2012, 4:22 PM
@ TheBostonBatman

i think nolan's batman films are good movies,i've never said they sucked & i'm sure the dark knight rises will be as good even though personally i don't like the look of bane & anne hathaway seems to me a bad bit of casting.

also huge marvel fan but i do like dc as well i.e animal man,batman(snyder)green lantern & swamp thing,i also read vertigo books as well american vampire,sweet tooth,the deadwardians & i've got a stack of northlanders & the unwritten to get stuck into.

bhorwith22
bhorwith22 - 5/16/2012, 4:27 PM
The Marvelites are ALWAYS the agressors. I never see Nolanites talking shit on their articles, but they pretend they are the victims, even though they know damn well they're not.
bhorwith22
bhorwith22 - 5/16/2012, 4:31 PM
It is closer to unwanted aggression (by the Marvelites) than war. The only thing the Nolan fans are doing is defending themselves from bullshit. I am on neither side, but I am not so blind that I do not see the blatantly obvious right in front of me. If you say the Nolanites are the aggressors, you are deliberately lying.
bhorwith22
bhorwith22 - 5/16/2012, 4:35 PM
BTW, most of the Marvel fans are VERY respectful, so don't take this the wrong way. Only a select few (coughintrudercough) come and bash TDKR articles.


@marknjoanna That would be fine. The thing is, the Nolan fans don't come and bash Avengers articles.
FlixMentallo21
FlixMentallo21 - 5/16/2012, 4:38 PM
THIS I like: I hate fan divisiveness, and feel that if we put all our petty differences aside, we can do wonders for the comic book industry.
FlixMentallo21
FlixMentallo21 - 5/16/2012, 4:40 PM
One more thing: anyone who tries to perpetuate this conflict, sorry to break this to you DC-devotees and Marvelites--neither one of your respective characters can beat Godzilla.
Madmex93
Madmex93 - 5/16/2012, 4:58 PM
I feel this whole argument between TDK and The Avengers is similar to debates regarding whether A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back is better. In the end they're both good films which have different qualities, one is simpler but is more fun, memorable and is more adventurous, the other is darker and more complex. Which you prefer relies of your own personal taste, but to belittle someone or try to objectively argue that one is better only makes you look like an idiot.
Madmex93
Madmex93 - 5/16/2012, 4:59 PM
Also... I wish we could all get along like we used to in middle school. I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy!
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/16/2012, 5:21 PM
@ bhorwith22

not always,do you remember users like nolanite & the shark knight,they're just as bad as marvelites for starting shit.
mgeoff88
mgeoff88 - 5/16/2012, 6:14 PM
Great editorial! I don't get it either. I know some people have an opinion as to which movie looks better. But some people take it from a friendly discussion to a flame war.

Some people miss out on the big picture. That fact the we are even lucky enough to get such great CBMs. Not whether you're a DC or Marvel, Nolanite or Marvelite, or whatever bullshit is made up next.

Life is too short to bitch and moan about things. If you don't like a movie, don't waste your time by going into an article about it, and bash it. Don't ruin peoples' anticipation for a movie. Just leave them be. Let them enjoy it.

I'm just happy with the fact we're are getting some great superhero movies this year. I don't care if they are a DC or Marvel movie. As long as the movie itself is great. That's what really matters to me.

@yossarian LOL! If you think that's liberating, wait until you model a woman's dress...wait...That's not as bad as it sounds...I lost a bet. Seriously...it was a bet. ;P
Joker11
Joker11 - 5/16/2012, 10:23 PM
Im a die hard Nolan... but I've also seen avengers 3 times once in IMAX twice in the theater. I loved it every time sure Im more excited for TDKR but I loved Avengers I just dont get why people think they can only like one!
marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/17/2012, 4:10 AM
bhorwith22 - 5/16/2012, 4:31 PM
Report Comment It is closer to unwanted aggression (by the Marvelites) than war. The only thing the Nolan fans are doing is defending themselves from bullshit. I am on neither side, but I am not so blind that I do not see the blatantly obvious right in front of me. If you say the Nolanites are the aggressors, you are deliberately lying.

i think you may want to look at EVERY YES EVERY marvel thread thats was posted after this. and see if you can find one that dont have nolanites bashing it,i cant so gl/
marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/17/2012, 4:13 AM
marvel72 - 5/16/2012, 5:21 PM
Report Comment @ bhorwith22

not always,do you remember users like nolanite & the shark knight,they're just as bad as marvelites for starting shit.

plus jla2014,evil69,azazel on and on its a very long list.way to long to post here.

marknjoanna
marknjoanna - 5/17/2012, 4:19 AM
bhorwith22 - 5/16/2012, 4:35 PM
Report Comment BTW, most of the Marvel fans are VERY respectful, so don't take this the wrong way. Only a select few (coughintrudercough) come and bash TDKR articles.


@marknjoanna That would be fine. The thing is, the Nolan fans don't come and bash Avengers articles.

then you dont have anything to worry about do you.cause if nolanites never come to marvels threads to bash, then i wont be able to copy/post said nolanite that broke my truce will i.


is this guy kidding or does he believe that crap,i cant tell.
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