James Gunn On The Decade-Long Plan For The DCU And Changes Since The GODS AND MONSTERS Slate Announcement

James Gunn On The Decade-Long Plan For The DCU And Changes Since The GODS AND MONSTERS Slate Announcement

Several TV shows and films revealed during the initial announcement of the DCU’s Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters slate have yet to move forward or materialize.

By MarkJulian - Sep 22, 2025 03:09 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios

DC Studios co-Chair James Gunn sat down for a wide-ranging interview with YMH Studios to discuss several key topics, including how long the initial DCU film and television slate was mapped out, and how and why the release order has since changed.

The slate was initially announced back on January 31, 2023 and nearly three years later, there's been little to no update on several of the projects that elicited a ton of excitement from DC fans.

On that date, 5 TV shows and 5 films were announced and development on The Authority, Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Swamp Thing, Booster Gold, Paradise Lost, and Waller has been virtually nonexistent.

Speaking to YMH Studios, Gunn touched on this fact.

"When we first took over, I had written up what the first shows were supposed to be and then where the story eventually went. So we met with David Szaslav, who was the one that hired us, and we told him what the basic plan was," Gunn told the podcast.

"He was into that and we got hired. He was the only one that knew the plan but then we told Mike DeLuca and Pam Abdi and they were into it, and we also told Casey Bloys- who's the head of HBO."

"So we had a basic plan and then we hired a bunch of writers who I really respected, who came in and we kind of worked out the whole story. Now some things have changed since then for various reasons but the basic thrust of the big story is the same- that is, what started in Superman, continues in Peacemaker season 2 and then continues in the next Superman movie, and then will continue in the movie after that, and then after that. So there was always this bigger plan that we came up with."

"It's like a decade, maybe a little less. It's very loose too. You have to be careful because there were certain projects that were part of that plan- because my other rule is that I'm not going to greenlight anything without having a screenplay that I love. And there were other things that haven't worked yet. You have to be able and willing to have the big picture in mind but also be able to shift anytime you need to. So the pinpoints are the same but some of the specifics have changed."

Per Gunn, while the initial release schedule of the first chapter for Gods and Monsters has changed, the broader paint strokes for the overall picture Gunn is trying to paint has remained the same. 

Reading between the lines of his carefully constructed comments, it sounds like Superman will be the central thoroughfare of the slate in terms of telling its overall story. It seemed as if Supergirl and Lanterns were intentionally skipped to mention that Man of Tomorrow would be the next big paint stroke put on the DCU's canvas.

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/22/2025, 3:12 PM
He should focus on some Legionarios de Cristo themed Party
Baf
Baf - 9/22/2025, 3:20 PM
@Malatrova15 - Snyder did that already.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 9/22/2025, 3:26 PM
Sad. It seeming more and more like Reeves elseworlds story is going to delay or prevent a DCU Batman from being a priority. They don’t want to steal the spotlight from emo Batman, which I get, but it sucks. Bc emo Batman may be liked or even loved by many, but not by everyone.

I for one would much prefer a new DCU Batman get the time and resources being spent on Pattinson.

Lame.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/22/2025, 3:41 PM
@MuadDib - I hated The Batmeh and I was all for this DCU Batman version, up until I saw Gunn's "Super""man". Like, I was originally up for giving the guy a shot despite my concerns that the guy wasn't right for Superman and after seeing the trailers and the film, he proved my concerns right, I dread what he's gonna do with Batman. Best I can hope for is for some other writer / director to take over and Gunn has litle to nothing to do with it beyond a few cliff notes, like what they did with that Penguin show but I just don't see Gunn backing off from it, not without plastering himself all over it.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/22/2025, 3:42 PM
@MuadDib - I'm not a fan of the emo bats, but if that universe sticks around solely to give us more stories set in Gotham (mostly on MAX I hope) then it's worth it.

Batman in the new DCU? I can definitely wait. There's been so much batman stuff in the past 20 years that I'm good if they wait on the DCU bats. However, I'd eventually like to see the bat-family expanded on in the DCU once Bats gets going there.
WalletsClosed
WalletsClosed - 9/22/2025, 4:18 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Reeve's Batgarbage was so bad that i'm starting to think Gunn's Batman would be better
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/22/2025, 4:23 PM
@WalletsClosed - Don't say sh1t like that, you will jinx it. I once said that Alien Earth show couln't be worse than Romulus and look how that turned out.
DonkeyLift
DonkeyLift - 9/22/2025, 4:25 PM
@MuadDib - more Elseworlds less James Gunn
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/22/2025, 3:34 PM
hopefully in that "Decade-Long Plan" there will be at least one good movie
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JackDeth
JackDeth - 9/22/2025, 3:42 PM
'SUPERGIRL' and 'LANTERNS' were only 'skipped' because they're already done. Of course he's on to 'MAN OF TOMORROW' that doesn't mean other stuff isn't coming first. Once we get to see a trailer for 'LANTERNS' he'll shift focus back to that to sell it. Once the media blitz for 'SUPERGIRL' starts and we get to see a trailer, it will be ALL about that flick until it's released. He's got a plan people. Let him cook.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 9/22/2025, 3:43 PM
So it's basically the DCEU all over again where they made it up as they went along.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 9/22/2025, 3:45 PM
So, they are releasing 3 "super family" movies before having any other DCU movies?
Superman, Supergirl and Man of Tomorrow?
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/22/2025, 3:51 PM
@Usernametaken - no better way to start your universal day!
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/22/2025, 3:50 PM
Of all of those that there hasn't been movement on yet the only one I seriously care about happening is Booster Gold.
Like many of you, I was introduced to the character from Bruce Timm's JLU Booster episode: The Greatest Story Never Told. My gosh was it funny...and Skeets, who Gunn would be awesome at bringing to life, was hilariously comic-gold!
So, let's get the Booster Gold MAX series going boys! If not for fame, then Mega-Fame!!!
spr0cks
spr0cks - 9/22/2025, 4:15 PM
I love the fact that he thinks the DCU will still be around in 10 years....
....and that it won't be rebooted (....again) before then.

So adorbs.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/22/2025, 4:29 PM
Makes sense imo…

Contrary to popular belief , Marvel Studios didn’t even have a concrete plan until Whedon decided to put Thanos at the end of Avengers and the rest is history so Gunn essentially having outline that still has room for flexibility just in case certain projects or things don’t work out seems like a sound method to me.

None of these big universes can have a solid plan because there’s just too many variables so best to have the gist of it ion terms of its destination and then allow for creatives to help you get there in a way that also gives them a chance to tell the stories they want to tell.

Anyway , I have liked the DCU so far thus I’m interested to see how it develops!!.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 9/22/2025, 4:34 PM
I'm just thinking about how much better this all could've been with the like of McQuarrie, brad bird or the F1/top gun guy in charge. They could've brought Gunn in at phase 3 to direct and write a film about some recondite character no one cares about , which he is way, way more suited to

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