Why I'm Ready (And You Should Be Too!) For The Dark Knight Saga To End!

Why I'm Ready (And You Should Be Too!) For The Dark Knight Saga To End!

It's been awhile, hasn't it? Since Christopher Nolan's blockbuster hit, The Dark Knight, blew open the box office and became a universal and critical success. The end is near and it's about time.

Editorial Opinion
By SuperBatCap1 - Jul 08, 2012 10:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic
Source: SuperBatCap1

I’ll be honest: This is my first article ever written at Comicbookmovie.com. And I’m sure, by the time you finish it (if you choose) you’ll either be on the fence about my opinion or just choose to disregard it, but I hope to keep your interest long enough to point out some things.

Back in the day, when WB hired Nolan in 2003 for a so-called untitled Batman film, the message boards around the world went ballistic. Here was a small scale (but visionary) director on the reins of a new “gritty and realistic” take on the Caped Crusader. Ah, music to many a comic-book nerd! Then more info arrived with the exceptional casting of Bale, Caine, Freeman, Neeson, Holmes (meh), Murphy, Wilkinson, Hauer, Watanabe, and Oldman. The geek meter rises. Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are hired to compose the film leaving many to speculate if the duo can make a theme fitting enough to dethrone Danny Elfman or Shirley Walker (Batman: The Animated Series). Then, it becomes known that Batman: Year One would be used as the main inspiration for the film and Bat-fans almost squirm with giddy anticipation for the film.

Two looooooonnngggg years of anticipation, script leaks, photo pics, and message board rants occupy us as we wait for the premiere. I, however, stayed away from the internet (spoiler-free) and made that midnight premiere and was blown away. I saw the movie 5 times in the theater. The tone was inspiring, the acting phenomenal (Christian Bale and Liam Neeson’s sparkled with menace and creativity) and the plot was enthralling to say the least. I thought about the movie and its wonderful sequel for weeks on end. I hesitate to call The Dark Knight the former movie’s superior, because they are two very distinct movies and saying otherwise is pretty much a disservice.

But, I’ll get to the point. After years of deliberating, debating, scoping out trailers and books and articles since Nolan’s direction, I was struck by one thing that I can’t seem to let go. Nolan’s trilogy aren’t really Batman films. They are great films by a masterful storyteller in his own right, but they aren’t Batman films. Or Comic Book Movies. Not truly. Now before the Nolanites (such a stupid term and no one deserves to be called that) get out their pitchforks, I want all to know that I grew up on Batman (Superman is my favorite, hell, even Batman looks up to him) since day 1. First movie my parents took me to was Burton’s ’89 Batman. I watched B:TAS religiously, read comic books daily (Stuck in the graphic novel section of Barnes and Nobles or Borders for hours at a time) and scoured every piece of information I touched concerning Batman and the other heroes of DC and Marvel. I’m a comic-book geek and I wear that label with pride, but because of that is why I hesitate in calling these films “definitive.” I’ve seen every episode of Justice League (and Unlimited), Batman (And Beyond), Superman, Teen Titans, Smallville, all the movies (animated too!) and I’ve read almost just about every comic concerning Batman and Superman through the past two decades.

Y’see, My Batman lives in a world where the Joker can’t take his make-up off. My Batman lives in a world where Batman needs a Robin, not just because Dick Grayson is an orphan who needs help like Bruce did, but because with Robin along Batman is more willing to think things through. The inclusion of Robin inspired The Dark Knight to make sure his brain over-analyzed a situation and is now an integral part of his character make-up. His world includes a Lazarus Pit, Killer Croc, The Ventriloquist, The Riddler, Harley Quinn, Two-Face (who doesn’t die in the last half-hour), Bane (who’s Hispanic) Catwoman (who has claws and a whip) Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, The Penguin, Ra’s Al Ghul (pronounced correctly) and Superman because the combination of the Joker and Luthor is a truly horrific thought. Maybe these are nitpicky things to say, but the writers of the comics didn’t think so and they’ve been parts of these characters for years and, more importantly, with reasons behind them! Who would have thought? There is an entire universe to explore and even though some may cringe at Batman INNNNN SPPPPACCEEE (Here’s looking at you Jett of BOF), it’s been happening realistically and seriously for years in cartoons and the comics.

Don’t get me wrong here. I’m not bashing the movies by any means, but Joss Whedon just proved that you can treat the source material with respect while appealing to a mass audience as well as the comic aficionado. Joss Whedon has also gone on the record to say that he felt that Watchman as well as The Dark Knight came too soon. That the deconstruction of a superhero came out too early because no superhero film had truly opened embracing its roots without making sacrifices. Until he took a crack at it. And crack it he did.

This Batman trilogy will go down in the history books as a cultural phenomenon (and rightly so),but it’s a limited Batman trilogy. It takes things away not but because it can, but because it is thought that it should in order to fit one man’s vision. I just think the vision in the comics is pretty fine and I’m ready for that. “Definitive” take on him? Nah, comics get that right every day (Scott Snyder!!!) I’m still waiting. I hope it will come. I’d actually like to see Batman outsmart Darkseid one day.

Peace, Love, and Respect!
-SuperBatCap1

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SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/8/2012, 11:02 AM
Thanks Man. Means a lot.
Jaywing
Jaywing - 7/8/2012, 11:30 AM
Well written article. I must say though I can't fully understand people's arguments when they say Nolan's films aren't batman or cb films... What are they then? Haha they have batman, his rogues gallery, Gotham. What I got from this article is they are not 'your' batman films. Which is fine... But Nolan did his take on them and according to box office and critical reception, it looks like he did a damn fine job. Whedon did a great job on the avengers... But why does him saying the dark knight came too early make it true? I can see why people want to have more fantastical elements in the next batman films but gotta give credit where
Credit is due with Nolan. Hopefully the dark knight rises is good, and when they decide to reboot the franchise and make it more 'comicbookesque' I guarantee it will have just as many people ready to scrutinize every detail about it. I enjoyed reading this though... Just my thoughts on it. Look forward to readin more articles from you in the future.
Berzerker93
Berzerker93 - 7/8/2012, 11:31 AM
Great article, I totally agree with everything you said. I started to dislike TDK because I was tired of hearing people who dont read comics consider it the "true" and "definitive" Batman. They are great movies, but I'm ready for the reboot, which hopefully sticks closer to the comics.
Zarog
Zarog - 7/8/2012, 11:35 AM
I agree. I'm ready for it to end. Good movies, but I want to see Batman face Clayface, Hush, etc. These movies have limited themselves to the point that they can't use the fantastical villains, and have to eliminate the fantastical elements (Lazarus Pit) from the villains they do use. While good movies, they are a complete reinterpretation of the Batman mythos, which is cool, but I would definitely like to see a Batman that is more liken to an adaptation.
MisterFixit
MisterFixit - 7/8/2012, 11:39 AM
completely agree!
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/8/2012, 11:56 AM
Thanks guys! Your feedback and input is awesome! I really appreciate it!

Jaywing: I do agree! Nolan totally deserves credit, but the reason that I stated that Joss Whedon said his films came too early is because I agree with Whedon's assessment. Whether it's true is up for debate, but I wish a Batman film more in line with its comic book roots had come along first before Nolan decided to put him into our world.
Jaywing
Jaywing - 7/8/2012, 12:14 PM
Yeah I totally hear what you're saying. I love the Nolan movies but I am ready as well for the next reincarnation of batman. Can't wait!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/8/2012, 1:59 PM
I agree with every word of this. Fantastic article. We meed more editorials like this.

And dont listen to Nolanite. He's a prick and is the exact reason why "Nolanites" have a bad rep.
marvel72
marvel72 - 7/8/2012, 3:07 PM
nolan has made some good batman films,but i totally agree lets have a new take on it,one where superman or the flash might show up or where he fights someone like clayface,killer croc & mr.freeze.
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/8/2012, 3:07 PM
Thanks CorndogBurglar! I'll try my best in the future not to disappoint. :) And don't worry, I'm not listening to Nolanite. I know his rep and I have a 3 bullet point retort to his response, but I'll only post it if others want me to. Also feel free to Thumbs Up my article if you want! I don't mind debate as long as it's healthy :)
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/8/2012, 3:47 PM
Yeah, bud, debate is one thing, but Nolanite doesnt know what that means. :)
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 7/8/2012, 4:15 PM
These are definitely batman and comic book movies. Just because they don't fit into the image of batman you have developed growing up doesn't mean they aren't real batman movies. It would be like saying that Batman: Year One isn't a real Batman comic.
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/8/2012, 4:44 PM
I said that it's "not truly" a Batman or CBM. It's a slice of Batman. Now, it may be a really, really, REALLY, great slice, but I'd just rather have the whole burger. (Shrug)
Thanks for your comment BarnaclePete!
GoILL
GoILL - 7/8/2012, 7:11 PM
Starscream9289 pretty much took the words out of my mouth.
Alexandre
Alexandre - 7/9/2012, 12:07 AM
@starscream9289

who are you and where were you months ago? you sir know exactly what you're talking about. heads up, that sort of thinking around here is frowned upon. batman is only allowed to be fantastical anything else is plain out wrong and not correct to the source material. even though almost everyone from the comic book world to people on marvel camp all respect and consider nolan's take amazing, its all about what we think in here because we're the "fans" and so to us nolan is yucky and he sucks.

lol i agree with everything you wrote man
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/9/2012, 6:52 AM
@Starscream9289 You are most definitely right, sir! There are tons of versions of Batman around for us to peruse and speculate on, but I'm inferring to the recent modern interpretation that the comics have been writing about for a couple of decades now. In life as in film, no matter what you do you won't please everyone. That's just a statement of fact. So of course someone would complain even if they did it the way he is in the comics, however, that's not my argument. I'm saying that Batman can be "grounded and serious" just like in the comic without removing the fantastical elements of his world and the characters that surround. It doesn't have to be one thing or the other and that's pretty much what I've seen. Both Burton's and Schumacher's world had too much fantastical elements while Nolan's stresses too much realism. I just want an even balance that the comic produces week after week, that's all. I want ALL of Batman, not just a sliver. Thanks for your thoughts :)

@Alexandre: I'm not sure that that kind of thinking is actually frowned upon. Many people like these films (myself included), but it's very much apparent that when you go to a comic book shop and read the source material that it balances realism with gritty fantasy. Nolan doesn't suck by any means. It's just not the end all be all or even everything I want in a Batman film.
Madmex93
Madmex93 - 7/9/2012, 2:13 PM
Has no one ever read Frank Miller's interpretation of Batman its very grounded in reality, and I would argue that some of his stories are Batman's best. Just look at The Dark Knight Returns, a majority of the characters that appear in that book are batman's more realistic villains. Heck, the most fantasy character in that novel is Superman and a elderly Batman is able to kick his ass, so even that characters powers are well grounded.

Look, i enjoy what Nolan has given us. He's explored and gone deep into the psychology of one of the greatest comic book characters (and Batman is the one hero you want to go deep into the psychology of). People whine about how he adapts them, but to be honest I do not care because he makes quality films that try to tell a good story.
Altair
Altair - 7/10/2012, 5:05 PM
This is a very well written and well thought out article. I'm really looking forward to Rises, but te true telling of a realistic movie is its characters, not its events. In fact, the beauty of Nolan's films is the fact that they aren't realistic, by Nolan makes it feel like it.

@NOLANITE

I never see you write anything half as well written as this editorial, so stop insulting people. You realize nobody on this site has an ounce of respect for you? And you call other people douches.

@SuperBatCap1

Sorry about the douche. Don't listen to him, your opinion is infinitely better than his. Great article.
ManWhoLaughs
ManWhoLaughs - 7/10/2012, 6:14 PM
I think this was a very good article. Good job. I like Nolan's films but Batman is a comic and there have been great storylines written over the years and not one is the definition so to speak.

You have Nolanites and then you have Millerettes. I don't feel either are the end all, be all of Batman.
MrsTonyStark0507
MrsTonyStark0507 - 7/10/2012, 6:25 PM
I LOVE this article!! Very well stated and I could not agree more!!
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 7/11/2012, 9:20 PM
Thank You so much Everyone for your comments and feedback! I'll definitely write more :)
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