Zack Snyder: Can he make a good Superman movie

Zack Snyder: Can he make a good Superman movie

Not only will I discuss whether I feel he will deliver but also I rank the most anticipated of the big 4 comicbook movies of the year.

Editorial Opinion
By EdgyOutsider - Mar 17, 2013 01:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic



I have seen three of the four films Zack Snyder has released pre-Man of Steel. Dawn of the Dead and Watchmen are his best films. 300 and Sucker Punch suck so much ass. I don't talk Watchmen and 300 as adaptations cause I personally never read the comic book counter parts. That being said. Here are the strengths his films have.

1: Strong Visuals



Let's start with the obvious. Zack Snyder's films are known for being entertaining to watch, visually. That's his strong suite. His films are understandably praised for their visuals. Watchmen is a perfect example. If that isn't, then his films must be bland visually. Oh wait.. never mind. Cause 300 is but, we'll get to that film later.

2: He's faithful and can cast actors (for the most part)



When given good, strong characters and have good actors cast as them as with any director, he can make interesting characters. But, when something like Watchmen or 300 is put in his hands, he tears them straight from the comics and is faithful to them. Man of Steel shows he can put together an ensemble of actors. Jackie Earl Haley as Rorschach is a example of him casting perfectly. Sucker Punch proved he can can't cast at times for shit.

Now lets move onto his weaknesses.

Slow motion



This was cool at first but after the second or third use of it, it's become a weakness of his. Ever since 300, he can't make a damn movie without using slow motion.

Mixed performances from his actors



Admittingly, this broad can't act for shit. That being said, he hasn't been able to exactly pull many good performances from his actors. He gets a pass for Dawn of the Dead cause it was his debut movie. After that, there is no pass. 300 had terrible performances, Watchmen was pretty mixed but had overall good performances and Sucker Punch was 300 level of being absolutely terrible. Therefore, he doesn't exactly show that he's gonna get good performances from his Man of Steel ensemble (although, I won't judge that just yet).

Weak story teller



Zack Snyder is an amazing visual. That is no lie, it's actually the most obvious thing about him and his films. As a story teller though, he's very weak. At least with Marc Webb, he was able to make something simple like (500) Days of Summer or The Amazing Spider-Man and was able to make it a stronger story cause he is able to weave everything together and keep it engaging. He doesn't rely on visual eye candy. He focuses on story, character and that's it. Zack Snyder got lucky with Watchmen.

Analysis: If Zack Snyder is a great director then Michael Bay must be the next Steven Spielberg. Snyder's films have absolutely no depth. At least with Pearl Harbor and Armageddon, Michael Bay gave them depth. Zack Snyder (for as much as I dislike Superman) is a poor choice for a director unless you want straight up action. Not to mention that as a single writer, David Goyer isn't exactly a strong fit. Nolan trusts him but, The Dark Knight trilogy was more than one writer. Goyer's most successful solo writing career is in the Blade trilogy. Fun, action packed films. Not exactly, good movies. I don't think Man of Steel is going to be anything more than more action and violence than actual character depth that many are expecting.

Now that, that's out of the way. Here, I will rank my most anticipated of the four comicbook movies of the year.

4: Man of Steel



Well, can't say you didn't see this one coming. It's got nothing to do with my dislike for the character. I love the ensemble that Snyder put together but, his lack of good movies (entertaining, not exactly good with the exception of Watchmen. That's his best one) and David Goyer being a weak writer when on his own, I don't have a lot of faith in Man of Steel although it's a guaranteed success. Especially with the name, Nolan attached to it.

3: Thor: The Dark World



Epic set photos, epic premise. Game of Thrones director, and got two very entertaining actors as the villains. Thor: The Dark World is one I'm very much looking forward to, that and not to mention I love the first Thor movie. So, my excitement for The Dark World is very much there. Although, a trailer is still needed. This being part of the MCU though, I'm confident it'll be great.

2: Iron Man 3



Ben Kingsley as The Mandarin. Villain of the year, I'm calling it right now. The most recent trailer for Iron Man 3 was epic. It had everything to get fans excited. Iron Man army, Hulkbuster, Mandarin's epic presence and a more serious and ready to fight Tony. This trailer had it all. Iron Man 2 was a step back (although I still enjoyed it, therefore I don't think there is a bad Iron Man movie yet) but, Iron Man 3 is going to be epic.

1: The Wolverine



Under direction of James Mangold (3:10 to Yuma) and a script written from Mark Bomback (Unstoppable), Christopher McQuarrie (Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol) and Scott Frank (Minority Report). Based on the comic by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller, starring Hugh Jackman. Score composed by Marco Beltrami. Give me reasons why this movie isn't going to be good. If you ask me, all the reasons listed above is what I need to convince me that this is going to be the best comicbook movie of 2013. It's a stand alone sequel, and Mangold promised us berserker Wolverine and a character driven movie. Again I ask, give me a reason to not look forward to it without using X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine as examples.

What do you think? Comment below and be civil.
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Fan of comic books with dreams to become a writer and director for film one day. Spider-Man, Ghost Rider and Captain America are my favorite superheroes. While Dr. Doom, Thanos, The Lizard and Ultron rank among my all time favorite super villains.
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GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/17/2013, 2:22 AM
Man of steel seems like its going to be epic, Watchmen was a fantastic movie. I didn't watch 300, so I can't make any judgements on that one. But I think if Man of Steel is anything even close to Watchmen it's gonna be epic, plus it's Superman a popular character unlike the Watchmen characters so it should be better. Based off of what I've heard about, and from the trailer it seems like its gonna be a great movie. But I've been wrong before...

Anyways, as for the most anticipated films I'd have to disagree. Personally I'm looking forward to Man of Steel and Iron Man 3 the most. Wolverine looks pretty good but so far the X-Men series has been totally lackluster, hopefully Wolverihe does better but idk. As for Thor:TDW, if you don't mind me asking, what did you like so much about the first Thor movie? It was really just mediocre if you ask me, it was alright but it was nothing like Iron Man or Incredible Hulk movies, it seemed super cheesy and they made Thor look really weak. Anyways, I hope Thor 2 does better, but I'm a bit jaded because of his lackluster first film.

Nice article though, I disagree with some things but it's a good write up nonetheless.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/17/2013, 2:26 AM
I don't have a reason not to look forward to Wolverine btw, I just don't think it'll be as good as MOS or IM3.
tonytony
tonytony - 3/17/2013, 4:37 AM
Nick Salinski is a marvel fanboy, who shits on dc alot. There is no way anyone out there is looking forward to the wolverine or thor 2 more than man of steel.

He starts all his articles like he is coming from a neutral place but ends up throwing two fingers two DC in everything he does.
FYI I actually expect Man of Steel to be a much better movie than Iron man 3, but that would be hard for you to admit because its DC.
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 3/17/2013, 4:44 AM
@Nick Salinski
David Goyer is not working alone so don't lose faith. He is working with Nolan a great storyteller. Snyder will make sure it sticks to the source material, and we get great action. So u see we get the best of both worlds its a win win combo.

That is why Man of Steel is my number 1. I would put Iron Man 3 last. Lets face it Iron Man 2 sucked, and the new one has a lot similarities with the tdk trilogy. Which makes IM3 look like a cheap rip-off.
tonytony
tonytony - 3/17/2013, 5:03 AM
THe title of this should read "nick Salinski: can he write something that is not anti-DC?"
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 7:23 AM
Not once was I anti-DC in this article. Hell, I think I should do it purposely in every one of my articles and be a total troll just to piss you guys off. All you do is bitch and moan about OPINIONS. Sure, I'm not gonna be fans of either villain cause I find them to be complete shit and I'm not all that excited to see them in the movie. Oh well, get over it. Also, he HELPED wrote TDK trilogy. As a solo writer though, what has David Goyer written that's anything close to as good as TDK trilogy? Oh, that's right, NONE. Also @Soto for your information, I like James Vanderbilt ever since Zodiac. Not TASM. I've written good articles and not the shit you think I write about. Before TASM came out, I did a comparison between it and the original movie. Check it out cause I still have it up.

Fenix122: I loved Thor. I it's ranked third for me as far as the solo movies go (Iron Man 2 is at the bottom). The two main reasons I liked it so much is 1: Tom Hiddelston as Loki. 2: I thought (before I read the premise) that it was just gonna be Thor on Asgard or where ever kick ass (I've never read the comics, never been a big fan of god characters. Despite how that came out, that was not aimed at DC). The appeal and real strong point for the movie for me is that they made a gods human an cherish humans and innocent lives outside of Asgard. The cgi could've been better at times but, I thought it was a really strong, fun movie.
bazinga85
bazinga85 - 3/17/2013, 7:46 AM
1. MOS- because of the people who are working on it. Snyder is a great director, and Goyer is a great writer
2. IM3- because of all the footage shown
3. T:TDW- because Alan Taylor's directing it, GoT is awesome
4. The Wolverine- if it gets an R rating, it'll definitely be 3rd on my list

Btw, @Lizard1, TASM had a very weak story
KoonEl
KoonEl - 3/17/2013, 7:58 AM
I loved Watchmen. Snyder knocked it out of the park with that one for me. When I saw Sucker Punch, I knew he had what it took to bring Superman to life. Regardless of your view of the movie, is was stunning visually. Once I saw Immortals, I knew Henry was going to own it as Superman. That movie was weak, but he was awesome in it.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 8:27 AM
I don't find many of my articles to be particularly good. I know they tend to have issues. I don't spend days on one, if I have an idea. I try spending an hour to two hours on one. If I don't like how it sounds, I just stop writing it. Also, I think it's unfair to think James Vanderbilt is a bad writer just cause he didn't exactly write a strong movie. He didn't turn in scripts that Raimi was satisfied with. Hell, it wouldn't be easy to turn one in if its the last movie of the series and your villain is The Vulture with Black Cat when it could've been easily Lizard or Carnage. That's why I blame Spider-Man 4 for not happening. Raimi didn't look at what was already set up. But, when you watch the trilogy in order. It makes sense despite Spider-Man 3 (which is enjoyable non the less) being not as good as the previous two, that the third would conclude a trilogy. Peter and Mary Jane don't end up together and you have the trilogy set up (origin/accepts mantle, not happy being a hero and is conflicted whether to stay a hero or live normal life and then finally, the fall and rise o the hero). I ranked every Marvel movie ahead of Man of Steel cause (and don't get me wrong, Man of Steel looks good) the previous movie in the franchise started my anticipation, trailers and set photos only strengthened the fire and the overall premise and trailer (if it has one) finally set in stone for me. In case with, The Wolverine, I enjoyed all movies (even though The Last Stand and Wolverine weren't good) and because of the story it's based on, it's not going to be anything like other superhero movies which only makes me even more excited.

I did not list reasons that Man of Steel will suck either. I was trying to show and explain (using his strengths and weaknesses) why Zack Snyder ISN'T a good director and they could have overall done a much better job picking a director for the movie. Hell, Marc Webb has only made two movies and he's done a much better job (no, that wasn't all just based from TASM). Cause of Zack Snyders previous films as a director and Goyers previous films as a solo writer (screenplay), I can't find a reason beyond the cast and trailer to get excited for the movie. I don't see how I am being Anti-DC. I'm stating an opinion. I can have an opinion based off of everything I've seen from set photos and the premise without havin to see a trailer. I'm sorry if it disappoints you that Man of Steel has me less than excited.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 3/17/2013, 8:29 AM
Lizard, man.... why do you constantly undermine your own articles.... at the very start no less?

You say that 300 and Watchmen were faithful, yet you had only claimed two paragraphs prior that you had not read the material with which they were adapted. Do you just take our word for it?

Watchmen actually was THE MOST faithful adaptation, outside of Sin City. Watchmen's real problem was Malin Ackerman and Carla Gugino giving some of the most cardboard performances - as well as Patrick Wilson (who is a good actor) taking it down on account of meeting Malin Ackerman halfway.

If you're worried about acting in Man of Steel, then I can tell you two actors you MAY have to worry about: those being Kevin Costner (who is hard to listen to on account of his monotone voice and small range of emotion), and Henry Cavill, who doesn't seem that much better than Costner. Cavill is probably going to be the most physically accurate Superman ever, but I'm hoping he'll show some range.

I'm really not sure why you feel compelled to hate on 300, but whatever. You have to understand that Snyder is telling a Frank Miller story (which has SOME historic background), and if you've ever read Frank Miller, then you'd know how violence is played for laughs, how built and invincible-seeming his characters are, and how far away the bright comedy actually is. Snyder wasn't telling his own story, and he has the humility to drop what might have been in his mind, a better story, for faithfulness.

Onto Zack Snyder...

This man is an expert cinematographer. He knows what audiences want to see, and he knows how to give it to us with the right style and narrative. He frames his scenes perfectly, and as the narrative progresses, the view stretches to reveal more.

Superman is an action movie. There's going to be slow motion. You're going to have to deal with it.

How can you compare Snyder to Bay? I don't get it.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 8:51 AM
Tainted: I say they're faithful cause everyone else on here say they are so, It must be true. My problem with 300 is there isn't a single engaging or good thing about it. Everything about the movie that doesn't require fighting sucks. Even then, he ruins the fighting with excessive slow motion. I'm not concerned with the acting. My biggest problem is the same reason I compared Snyder to Bay, Snyders films lack depth of any kind and is all style with no substance again, with the exception of Watchmen. No, Michael Bay isn't known for movies with depth but, they're at least entertaining. Visually, I have no problem getting Into a Snyder movie. My problem is that they're super hard to get into if you watch it for more than just the violence. Everyone is making out Man of Steel to be something huge and giving Snyder tons of praise when they haven't seen the movie (just like we haven't) and I feel that people fail to see that Snyder isn't a good director. Not even close. When he's adapting a single story, it's pretty mixed cause have only done two direct adaptations. He can't write a movie for shit (Sucker Punch sucked so much ass). Dawn of the Dead remake was very good. I just feel that he will fail to deliver on the story telling level of things, unlike what many believe he'll do.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 8:54 AM
Soto: Again, the script sucked cause they wanted a final movie that involved the Vulture. I would think that would be a tough job to do. Despite how good the first two Spider-Man movies were, this is also the same man who made Evil Dead. Not very reliant if you ask me.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 9:15 AM
Soto: I personally would've put in Venom and Harry as the villains of Spider-Man 3. I would have saved Sandman for a reboot trilogy. Don't get me wrong, I respect Raimi for Evil Dead. While I particularly don't think it's a good movie, he did make it with not much of a budget. Also, I know movies are entertainment and are meant to be so without always havin to find purpose or dignity. Wish you all could see that with Michael Bay's movies though. His movies are successful for a reason. He don't listen to critics and outside of Pearl Harbor and Armageddon, his movies are made to be pure popcorn, fun blockbuster entertainment.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 3/17/2013, 9:18 AM
Slow motion lol, that's one reason this movie will suck. TAS Spider-man was horrible story telling, 300 was a much better film than it. So was Watchmen. I like Michael Bays older movies like the Rock and Bad Boys because they are dumb action movies. There is a place in the world for dumb action movies. Also I guess according to you it's good that Snyder didn't write this movie. I guess we are lucky that a man who has been nominated twice for an Academy Award for original writing did.
gmoney0505
gmoney0505 - 3/17/2013, 9:23 AM
LOL. this was a funny article and the ending with Wolverine #1 was pretty darn hilarious. The reasons he list Wolverine #1 can be said about Man of Steel and others and list them #1.

The fact you stated you haven't read 300 or Watchmen and then say they gave a faithful adaption to the comics, that put up red flags for this article credibility.

Supes has more reasons to be better movies than all of them anyway. With Amy Adams, Russell Crowe, and Micheal Shannon you will have 3 of the most talented people in acting in one movie. Zack Snyder based on his recent movies visuals and action will be better than the other 3 movies combined. You have David Goyer and Chris Nolan writing their 4 movie with the other 3 being very very awesome.

Why try to keep defending Iron Man 2? The movie was not enjoyable. Little to no action, bad paced story, uninteresting villain that was stuck in a lab building things the entire move, a 15 sec tug of war fight for the last fight scene with Iron Man vs. Whiplash, Shield stuff in the way. I can go on and on about that movie. Iron Man 2 is a bad movie.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 9:43 AM
Soto: my family is the exact same way and like you I respect movies and unlike my family, I REALLY got into them (unfortunately, a couple relatives think I'm just obsesse with them). For an example, I got shit from my dad cause he thinks I'm too young to think a movie is very beautiful and very touching (I told him that's what I thought of Brokeback Mountain). Believe me, I have to keep reminding myself that not everyone is as into movies as I am cause at times, I get frustrated with my friends and mom cause (we'll use an action movie for an example) for example, Inception is an excellent movie. My friends and some of my relatives got into it because of the cool visuals and fight scenes, which is something that frustrates me (again, I have to keep reminding myself not everyone is as into them) cause the general public based solely on the people I personally know, don't care much for story. If it doesn't have cool action moments, be really funny or both then they get bored by it.

Unfortunately, I have a bad habit of not watching movies from the early 90's and before cause I keep trapping mysel in a bubble of watching the same movies over and over. The sole reason I respect Evil Dead is cause of the poor budget and Sam was an ammateur. I just try to keep an open mind and have a sense of variety. I'm more into action and comedy but, I can get into movies like Zodiac, The Vow, Lincoln, Sinister, John Carprenter's Prince of Darkness, ect.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 9:48 AM
Levi: I just have always found Snyder to be nothing more than a director who has pretty looking movies. I had heard all this hype bout how 300 was amazing and epic. I sat through the movie bored out of my mind. As with you, I personally really enjoyed The Expendables and IM2 as well and yea lol Webb did use the spider sense. It was more of a sound than what Raimi did. I just don't think Man of Steel will be all that great. I think it looks really good (I also liked Superman Returns) but, it's something I'd wait for on DVD.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 3/17/2013, 9:50 AM
@Levi

I agree with what you're saying, but I think Lizard is just saying Snyder is not great as a storyteller and focus on the eye candy, (Visuals), more than the actual story and plot. His best movie that mixes both storytelling and action is Watchmen, but as much as I and a lot of other people love that movie, it was basically word for word from the comic book. That's not a bad thing though so don't get me wrong.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 9:53 AM
MRCBM56: Thank been my biggest problem with him and why I don't think he's going to deliver a good Superman movie. Enjoyable but, not good.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 9:55 AM
Levi: Believe me. I'm always thinking about whether it always has to be deep or not and it doesn't always have to be, especially since I LOVE the Crank movies. I just think I get caught up in a lot of "deep" movies anymore that I just become consumed with that one mind set and that's it.
Dumegg
Dumegg - 3/17/2013, 11:16 AM
Fox has made way more Terrible marvel movies than good ones. You cant
Evaluate an upcoming movie made by a studio without looking into its
Other movies of of the same type. Truth is x men 1,2 and first class were
Good. Every other fox movie sucked. Daredevil, the two fantastic 4 movies,
X men last stand, Electra, x men origins: wolverine were all garbage.

I think you should be skeptical of any fox production.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 3/17/2013, 11:42 AM
@Rob

You're calling him a Marvel fan boy but to me you sound like a Dc fan boy. It's all about opinion and taste, he has already stated Thor is one of his favorite movies so it would make sense for him to be excited for the sequel, even if he hasn't seen a trailer. And you say The avengers had no heart and nothing else to it, if that's your opinion than fine let it be. I'm not going to give you reasons to like it because its your OPINION and I could care less of what you like. Also just because The Wolverine will probably do horrible at the box office, does not mean it will not be a good movie. Dredd was one of the most underperformed movies at the box office last year, but was it a bad movie...NO.
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 3/17/2013, 12:04 PM
I would rank them:

4: Thor: The Dark World
3: Iron Man 3
2: The Wolverine
1: Man Of Steel
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 3/17/2013, 12:07 PM
If I had to rank the CBM's of 2014 in order, they would be:

5: Ninja Turtles
4: Guardians of the Galaxy
3: Captain America: The Winter Soldier
2: The Amazing Spider-Man 2
1: X-Men: Days of Future Past
tonytony
tonytony - 3/17/2013, 12:48 PM
the reality is that if Man of Steel was a marvel movie it would be number one. Nick Salinski (lizard1) has a track record of shitting on DC. He tries to act neutral but all his threads do the same thing. Even if he doesnt realise how ridiculous and silly he sounds, there is no way the wolverine is more anticipated than any other comic book film, none. this whole thing was written as another one of his swipes at DC.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 1:46 PM
Dumegg: X-Men and X2 were great and I loved First Class. That's three good X-Men movie of the five released, I'm confident in The Wolverine and Days of Future Past. More so The Wolverine. Days of Future Past is gonna be hard to really sell for me until I see a trailer. I love Days of Future Past and the comicbook movies Singer has directed but, it's a complete different X-Men movie.

Has no one seen Zodiac? Everyone just gonna say he's shit cause he made a Spider-Man movie that's weak on the story front? Look @Rob watch Zodiac and then tell me Goyer is better.

Tonytony: It has nothing to do with my love for Marvel and general dislike for DC (I like Batman and The Flash is my favorite btw). I don't shit on anything DC related. I looked forward to and liked Superman Returns. My biggest gripe with Man of Steel has always been David Goyer and Zack Snyder. Nothing to do with DC. Just those two. Both of them (the exception of Watchmen) are style over substance. More visual than they are story. As a writer, Goyer is especially guilty when writing the script on his own. I'm interested in what they do with Superman but, It's probably gonna be the only one of the four that I'll wait for DVD unless the trailers can prove to me it's going to be worth it.
ToTheManInTheColdSweat
ToTheManInTheColdSweat - 3/17/2013, 1:57 PM


lmbo, aint this the same dude who's got a hardon for TASM and marvel movies. lemme guess he dissed dc movies? and ranked MOS dead last!!! hahahaha. bias is as bias does. try again young padawan ^_^
tonytony
tonytony - 3/17/2013, 1:59 PM
@lizard1 i have yet to read anything from you that isnt a thinly veiled swipe at DC.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 2:03 PM
Tony: Yes you have, this article. Not once did I ever come close to dissing on DC. It was bout Snyder and how he isn't gonna deliver with Goyer. I even said Man of Steel looked good and it's true. As I've said countless times, they're both style over substance. I don't particularly like almost anything DC related and its true but, I still hope for them to succeed. Make more good movies and have other success.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/17/2013, 2:11 PM
@Lizard1
Back to the first Thor movie, I agree it was entertaining but overall not great. If you didn't read Thor's comics like you said, then I guess it makes sense. In Thor's comics he was a Superman-level character, strong enough to lift worlds and such, in the movies he seemed so weak. And aside from his appearance, the story was just ok....nothing like the first Iron Man movie (which btw Is ranked at #1 in my favorite CBMs, followed by Batman Begins at #2)

Now, we're talking about TASM. Well, I actually really like that movie. It had its flaws and it's issues (as all movies do) but overall it was very enjoyable and it had a good story do I liked it. I felt the same way about TDKR, overall it's a great movie but it wasn't as good as it could've/should've been.

I still think Man of Steel is gonna blow away Wolverine and Thor's movies this year, as will Iron Man to a lesser degree.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/17/2013, 2:22 PM
I think Thor (the movie) did have its issues like every movie does (TASM is my favorite Spidey movie, Avengers my favorite cbm) and at times it did feel over comedic like an action comedy but, it worked for me personally. It was something like Superman but without the morales and what not. It was a Marvel movie (not saying DC movies can't be fun) it had the action but never used it to replace the story as most actions movies do and it was an entertaining, funny, fun family movie. The weakest part for me is the romance. That's the only weak point I can think of on the story front and in general (I wouldn't know the technological flaws). It just feels a bit shoehorned in.
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 3/17/2013, 2:39 PM
@Lizard1

Hello,

I just wanted to point out that this seemed like two wholly different articles grafted on together. Based on what I perceive was your thesis and based on the implications of the title, I thought that this was purely about the pros and cons of Snyder. You could have (and probably should) make another article dictating your most anticipated films.


I respectfully disagree with a few things Zack Snyder being a weak storyteller. It is to the best of my knowledge that he works really well with whatever was given to him. LEVITIKUZ pointed out how he shouldn't be held accountable for these things. Goyer and Nolan seem to deliver good scripts and if they do a good one for MOS, then Snyder has a lot of good material to work with.

Snyder's use of slow mo may be repetitive but you have to admit that they were used at very opportune moments. I don't think he uses the effect gratuitously . When slow-mo would work, then he'd include it in. I don't think that he'd include slow mo just for the hell of it.

Don't worry about this one, brutha. I think it's going to turn out really really well. If not, then you could happily say "I told you so".


Tainted87
Tainted87 - 3/17/2013, 3:05 PM
I'm going to disregard everything about this article having to do with Zack Snyder, and jump to the bottom of the editorial. Yippee!

I like supervillains. I had a big problem writing the bulk of my Martian Manhunter draft because as obscure as Ma'alefa'ak (pronounce it like Mall-if-ick) is, I had the most fun writing his development as a villain.

So for me, my anticipation is based at least half-way around who's going to be the big bad of 2013, and who's going to be the big small (ha).

Wolverine has Will Yun Lee as the Silver Samurai, as well as some obscure international actors playing Shingen and Viper. Will Yun Lee was Fox's pick for Kirigi, and we saw how that turned out. Looks like the real villains are honor and prejudice.

Thor: The Dark World has Christopher Eccelston (who I think is brilliant) as Malekith the Accursed, as well as underrated Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (don't think I didn't copy and past his name for spelling!) as Kurse, with Tom Hiddleston reprising Loki, and a possible rumored cameo of Surtur. There will be depth!

Man of Steel features Zod in a serious version, played by the amazing Michael Shannon (who does funny things with his voice). With Zod comes German actress Antje Traue as his partner Faora - hopefully the two will bring something fresh that doesn't make us think of Superman II every moment they're on screen. Could be pretty good, could be fantastic, could be real lackluster. We'll see.

Iron Man 3 has Sir Ben Kingsley leading a host of bad guys as the Mandarin. He will be a unique terrorist who implements aspects from the comic book character, just not his background. I have faith in him, as well as Guy Pearce as Aldrich Killian - as the two have never left me wanting. Villains who strip the hero down and attack them without their [powers] usually make for an interesting confrontation, and with Shane Black in charge, I'm certain it won't disappoint.

1) Iron Man 3
2) Thor: the Dark World
3) Man of Steel
4) The Wolverine
Coldblood6
Coldblood6 - 3/17/2013, 3:07 PM
All this arguing is completely pointless. The order of anticipation of this years CBM's will depend upon personal tastes. If your a DC fanboy or a nolanite then obviously MOS is going to be the most anticipated. If your a MARVEL then odds are that one of the MARVEL movies will be and then it will depend upon your particular tastes within MARVEL.
I'm a diehard MARVEL zombie who stopped finding Superman interesting ages ago, so MOS is really not highly anticipated for me at all. The only thing causing some degree of interest is Zack Snyder, who I think is an awesome director. Within MARVEL I'm more of an X-MEN fan however Fox's shaky rep, the appeal of THOR's 'mythological' world,and the utter brilliance of the MCU has caused my anticipation list to be:

1: THOR: TDW
2: IRON MAN 3
3: The WOLVERINE
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?: Man of steel

DC fanboys and nolanites need to understand that there are many factors which may cause people to have much anticipation for Mos:

1: Low interest in Superman as a character. I've spoken to several people who aren't Superman fans and like me the trailer really doesn't do anything for them because they simply don't find Superman interesting. There are many people out there who simply no longer find Superman interesting.

2: Another Superman origin story. This can be a deal breaker for a lot of people. The thought of watching Superman's origin story is yawn inducing.

3: Uninteresting melodrama. The trailer showed Superman as a kid dealing with his super-hearing. If you're a Superman fan this may be tremendously interesting but if your not then this movie becomes "Superman's origin, now with 30% more tedious melodrama!". Nobody outside of fans are going find that sh!t interesting!

4: Lack of appeal of Zack Snyder as director.

5: Fear of too much nolanisation. Not everybody likes his influence on superheroes.

So DC fans it's great that your getting a Superman movie that you think is going to be awesome, but don't think it's the most anticipated for everybody.

And if you think the majority of the GA is out there going "Oh my God! A new Superman movie! Alright!!!", then you're sadly mistaken.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 3/17/2013, 3:59 PM
@Coldblood
"if you're a DC fanboy or a Nolanite, than obviously MOS is the most anticipated. If your a MARVEL than odds are one of the MARVEL movies will be"

That's not entirely true, anyone who knows me knows that I like Marvel more than DC (I don't dislike DC, I just think Marvel has cooler characters and more of them) but this year I'm looking forward to MOS the most because Superman is my fav in DC.
Coldblood6
Coldblood6 - 3/17/2013, 6:11 PM
@ Fenix122

True. Thanx for correcting me. It's never going to be 100%, but rather it tends to a general rule. I also know some DC fans who don't find Superman interesting.
StrangerX
StrangerX - 3/18/2013, 7:03 AM
Its hard for me to agree with anything once I read 300 sucked ass. I understand we all have opinions but damn. Anyway Snyders only true fault was sucker punch and to be honest I liked it better than a few well known cbms. The slomo is artsy but for certain films it works really well especially with 3D. As for the rest
MOS
THOR
IRON MAN
KICK ASS
WOLVERINE
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