DOCTOR DOOM: Noah Hawley Offers An Update On The FANTASTIC FOUR Spinoff And Talks Meeting With Kevin Feige

DOCTOR DOOM: Noah Hawley Offers An Update On The FANTASTIC FOUR Spinoff And Talks Meeting With Kevin Feige

Doctor Doom likely won't happen now that Marvel Studios is rebooting the Fantastic Four franchise, but writer/director Noah Hawley still has plenty to say about the villain's origin story...

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By JoshWilding - Oct 04, 2019 01:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Doctor Doom
Source: Uproxx
Back when Fox was still in charge of the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises, Noah Hawley was set to take the helm of a Doctor Doom origin story. Despite how poorly the studio handled Mister Fantastic and company, there was still a lot of excitement surrounding what the Legion showrunner would bring to the table, and he's now offered yet another update on the project. 

"[It] combined genres," the filmmaker explained. "And it’s sort of a Cold War parallel film. And I really like it. I’ve been too busy to really lean on them, and they certainly haven’t called me on the phone. And during my sit down with Kevin Feige, when he asked about the Doctor Doom movie, he said, 'Are you still working on it?' And I said, 'Should I still be working on it?'

Asked how Kevin Feige responded to that, Hawley added: "'I assume you guys have a plan in a drawer somewhere for the Fantastic Four.' And he smiled a little bit, but would neither confirm nor deny. But yeah, I think it would be a great comic book movie certainly."

It's a little odd that Feige would leave him hanging like that, but with rumours that the iconic villain could star in his own Disney+ TV series, it's possible this movie will be reimagined. 

Comic book fans definitely want to see Doom in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, especially as the character has the potential to be a threat to more than just the Fantastic Four. What do you guys think? Would you like to see Hawley's take on Victor Von Doom in this shared world? 

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think Marvel Studios should make a priority moving forward!

Cyclops



While it's true that we've seen plenty of Cyclops over the past twenty years or so, I think an argument could be made that Fox never quite got the character right. James Marsden and Tye Sheridan were both well cast but neither has been given the opportunity to show what a great leader Scott Summers is and most of their screentime has been devoted to pining after Jean Grey.

From the very start, Bryan Singer made a point of emasculating Cyclops as soon as Wolverine showed up and while I'm sure Marvel Studios is well aware of the importance this character holds to X-Men fans, there's sadly a risk that they'll feel he's been overexposed.

With any luck, though, he'll be given the chance to shine in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and these movies will focus on his actual personality, including Scott's slightly darker side which has seen him align himself with Magneto in both the regular and Ultimate Marvel Universes over the years. 
 

Doctor Doom



Victor Von Doom has appeared in three Fantastic Four movies as the primary antagonist and for that reason alone, I don't think Marvel Studios will be too quick to use him in the reboot.

Kevin Feige is no fool, though, and he surely realises that Doctor Doom has the potential to be a foe for the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe and not just Marvel's First Family. It's vital that there's some sort of connection between Doom and Reed Richards but there are ways around that if the heroes are going to be left on the bench for at least a little while. 

Doom is an incredible villain who hasn't even come close to being done justice on the big screen, so I would say that he should be an even bigger priority than Galactus and the Silver Surfer.
 

Wolverine



I know what you're thinking but bear with me! Wolverine has been overexposed both on the big screen and in the comic books for years now but as great as Hugh Jackman was as Logan, I still feel like we still haven't seen the definitive version of the character. 

For starters, I think it's about damn time that he gets his suit, while there are so many elements of his history that Fox glossed over by obsessively returning to his time as Weapon X. There aren't really any characters like Wolverine in the current Marvel Cinematic Universe and as great as he is when he's with the X-Men, just imagine the hero crossing paths with Black Panther and Spider-Man.

The fact is, Wolverine is a character with an awful lot of box office potential and it could be Marvel Studios we ultimately have to thank for finally putting him on the same screen as Deadpool.
 

Apocalypse



While it definitely appeared as if Fox was building to a big Mister Sinister reveal somewhere down the line after teasing the villain in movies like Logan and Deadpool 2, the fact that those developing these Marvel movies are completely clueless means that was probably never going to happen.

As much as I think Sinister needs to be introduced (and tied closely to the Summers family), it would be even more compelling to see a comic accurate version of Apocalypse enter the fray, especially if that kicks open the door to alternate timelines, time-travel, and a sci-fi vibe which fans of the X-Men will be all too familiar with. 

Bryan Singer tried and failed to bring a satisfying version of En Sabah Nur to the big screen back in 2016 and while I think Marvel Studios would hold off on introducing him, a new take could see him easily become the big bad of not only the X-Men franchise but the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a whole.
 

Invisible Woman



The entire Fantastic Four should obviously be a priority for Marvel Studios but it's about damn time Sue Storm gets the spotlight.

The most powerful member of the Fantastic Four, we've seen a bimbo version and an entirely forgettable scientist version but a comic accurate Sue who is the matriarch of this family and also every bit the leader Reed is is a must for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Plus, if that A-Force movie really does end up happening, she would need to play a key role there. 

Invisible Woman is an incredible character and someone who could be vitally important in what's still a mostly male-dominated shared universe. Captain Marvel is opening the door for characters like Sue so Kevin Feige and company need to take advantage of that.
 

Sabretooth



We got a fleeting glimpse of Sabretooth's potential in X-Men Origins: Wolverine but that was sadly squandered and he hasn't been seen since in Fox's X-Men Universe. 

Moving forward, I can't think of a better foe for the new Wolverine than this guy and there are a lot of great comic book storylines which Marvel Studios could choose to address (them being related in any way should be forgotten but the fact Victor visits Logan on his birthday each year would help make him a great recurring bad guy even in the X-Men franchise). 

Sabretooth just so happens to be the sort of bad guy who could pop up elsewhere too; just imagine him crossing paths with Black Panther in Wakanda! Regardless, this is an X-Men villain with a huge amount of potential who deserves to be treated the way he deserves on the big screen.
 

Franklin Richards



One of the biggest questions fans have about the Fantastic Four's debut in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is how they could possibly be introduced. Will they be teenagers or could it be that they travelled to another dimension after being bombarded with those cosmic rays? 

If so, it's perfectly feasible that they'd return to Earth with a child in tow and there's an awful lot Marvel Studios could do with Franklin. An Omega-level mutant, the youngster is one of the most powerful characters in the entire Marvel Universe and if Kevin Feige is going to start playing with alternate worlds, then having someone who can create them might come in very handy. 

If you know anything about the Fantastic Four's adventures, you'll be all too familiar with what could be done with Franklin and he could even be used to reboot franchises and launch that Secret Wars movie we've heard so much about if The Beyonder isn't on the table. 
 

Storm



I want to start off by saying that I most definitely don't want to see Storm end up being married to Black Panther. It didn't work in the comics and more than likely wouldn't play out that well in live-action either. 

However, exploring Ororo's African origins is a must and Marvel Studios should cast the role accordingly. There are ways she could be tied into T'Challa's world, of course, but Storm can easily stand on her own as a character and it would be great to see her step up and do more than summon the odd lightning bolt or to create some clouds when she's in a bad mood!

Storm is a great character and one of the Marvel Universe's most powerful mutants so it would be awesome to see her powers portrayed properly as she flies through the sky and kicks some ass. 
 

Silver Surfer



Way back when Fox lost the rights to Daredevil, Kevin Feige offered them the chance to keep the Man Without Fear in exchange for being allowed to use Galactus and the Silver Surfer. They said no.

With that in mind, it's pretty obvious that these two will pop up before too long but I would love to see a larger focus on the Silver Surfer first with Galactus teased over a number of movies. Norin Radd could even get his own solo movie before the Eater of Worlds appears to flesh out his origin story and to explain how he become Galactus' Herald. 

It's shocking that Fox has never made a Silver Surfer movie but that leaves the door open to Marvel Studios properly introducing the character because the version we met in 2007 has been mostly forgotten by now (despite possibly being the best part of Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer).
 

Kang The Conqueror



Marvel Studios has introduced the majority of The Avengers' biggest villains but we've yet to see Kang the Conqueror grace the big screen. The time-travelling villain is closely tied to the Fantastic Four so he's probably been owned by Fox up until this point but that's about to change.

Kang could unite the Avengers and Fantastic Four, while also serving as a big bad every bit as terrifying and powerful as Thanos. 

The way he plays with the timeline would be fun to explore, as would adapting any number of the story arcs which have seen him best Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Kang is an amazing villain who deserves to have his story play out on the largest stage possible so I definitely think Marvel Studios should make giving him the spotlight a real priority. 
 

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tmp3
tmp3 - 10/4/2019, 1:59 AM
His new movie got massacred by critics 💀
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/4/2019, 2:08 AM
tmp3
tmp3 - 10/4/2019, 2:13 AM
OT: Martin Scorsese Says Marvel Movies Are “Not Cinema”
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/4/2019, 2:16 AM
@tmp3 -
tmp3
tmp3 - 10/4/2019, 2:19 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - I don't agree with Marty here, but we're really gonna have a comment section of people shitting on his work because he said this when the article comes out.
Here's the full quote for context
Martin Scorsese says that Marvel films are 'not cinema' – 'The closest I can think of them, as well-made as they are, with the actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks.'
Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/4/2019, 2:19 AM
@tmp3 - Oh dear...
Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/4/2019, 2:20 AM
@tmp3 - I wonder if that's why he left as a producer of 'Joker'?
tmp3
tmp3 - 10/4/2019, 2:21 AM
@Necropolitan - He left because his duties on The Irishman were bigger than he was expecting, at least that was the official explanation. Looking at the results (best reviewed American film of the year right now, probable best picture front-runner, got De Niro out of his acting coma) it feels like it paid off
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 10/4/2019, 2:28 AM
@tmp3 - I mean the guy is clearly one of the greatest directors of all time but damn why is so hard just to say that you don’t like something? Why do you have to disqualify it from even existing next to the rest of cinema? Of course people who love MCU movies are going find that bare minimum annoying. You just don’t insult the movies but the tastes of people who do like them as cinema. I don’t get why you take the shot, no matter the context, he might have just directed the best movie of the year, things like this should be beneath everyone.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 10/4/2019, 2:32 AM
@tmp3 - Having read the full quote I'm gonna say his assessment is bullshit. Saying MCU movies don't convey emotional and psychological experiences to human beings completely goes against how people feel about these films. I wish these directors and actors that say things like these would just "I don't like them" and leave it like that. It often feels like because they have high achievements they feel as if they can tell other people what is good and how to feel about movies. Isn't the whole point of film for people to decide how they feel about it, and isn't the amount of choice within film there so that people can decide what they like?

Anyway, I'm not gonna retroactively shit on his work because he said this but it's a bullshit statement in my opinion.
OptimusGrime
OptimusGrime - 10/4/2019, 2:28 AM
WHAT DID FEIGE SAY GODDAMIT?! You know feige just didnt smile and that was it! They had a conversation and they obviously want to see his script and see if it fits into their F4 plans...my bet is that it wont.. as Hawleys writing is super cerebral and probably wouldnt fit into the Marvel model? I might be wrong but regardless i like both parties and hope they can make soemthing work for DOOM...
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 10/4/2019, 3:11 AM
Feige cracking a tiny smile and moving on without answering is further proof that that man is fully transitioning into being a comic book character in his own right
juggy4711
juggy4711 - 10/4/2019, 3:12 AM
Doom should be the new Fury. Use him not only as a villian but the glue for the next couple phases.
WeaponXCII
WeaponXCII - 10/4/2019, 4:26 AM
Not a problem with me if it doesn’t happen. I know Marvel directors haven’t all done great work, but Lucy in the Sky being torn apart might have made Feige more apprehensive.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 10/4/2019, 10:33 AM
Doctor Doom really is the type of character that could benefit of a limited series before appearing in the movies. Unless they're gonna make him the next big bad, then they should have him in a couple of movies (like how Loki and Thanos appeared in multiple movies, just make his arc the opposite of Loki's)
dezdigi
dezdigi - 10/4/2019, 4:29 PM
I'm feenin' for some Doom! Way more than the X-Men.
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