THE FANTASTIC FOUR Rumored To Introduce Norrin Radd Alongside Julia Garner's Silver Surfer

THE FANTASTIC FOUR Rumored To Introduce Norrin Radd Alongside Julia Garner's Silver Surfer

We recently got word that Julia Garner had been cast as the Shalla-Bal version of the Silver Surfer in The Fantastic Four, but the MCU reboot will reportedly also introduce Norrin Radd...

By MarkCassidy - Apr 17, 2024 11:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

It seems LaKeith Stanfield may have let the cat out of the bag after all!

In one of the most talked-about casting announcements in recent memory, we learned that Julia Garner (Ozark) had joined the cast of Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four as a female take on the Silver Surfer.

Garner will play the Shalla-Bal version of the character, however, which led to speculation that the original Sentinel of the Spaceways might also appear.

Now, insider Daniel Richtman is reporting that Norrin Radd will indeed be introduced alongside Shalla-Bal in the MCU reboot.

Has the role already been cast?

In a since-deleted social media post, Haunted Mansion and Atlanta star LaKeith Stanfield commented on Garner's casting by saying, "Thought it was going to be me but ig."

In the original Marvel Comics continuity, Shalla-Bal was the Empress of the planet Zenn-La, and was the first love of Norrin Radd. When Galactus came to devour their planet, Radd volunteered to become his herald in exchange for sparing Zenn-La. Later, when Franklin Richards took over as the new Galactus, he imbued Shalla with the same cosmic powers and allowed her to serve as a twin herald alongside Radd.

It remains to be seen if the movie will take inspiration from the comics when it comes to these characters, but another recent rumor claimed that "there will be some connection between Franklin [Richards] and Galactus in the film."

The Fantastic Four stars Pedro Pascal (Game of Thrones, The Last of Us) as Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, Vanessa Kirby (Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning) as Sue Storm, aka the Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn (Stranger Things) as Johnny Storm, aka the Human Torch, and Ebon Moss-Bachrach (The Punisher, The Bear) as Ben Grimm, aka the Thing.

There are rumors that both Cillian Murphy (Oppenheimer) and Mads Mikkelsen (Rogue One) are top picks to play Doctor Doom, but other actors are sure to be in contention. Galactus has been confirmed as the main villain, but no actor is currently in talks for the part. Last we heard, Javier Bardem was said to be the "top choice" to play the Eater of Worlds, but it was noted that scheduling conflicts may prevent him from signing on. Antonio Banderas was also a rumoured

Plot details are still a mystery, but The Fantastic Four will reportedly actually be set in an alternate universe. If accurate, this would obviously suggest that the characters will be Variants from some other part of the Multiverse that will eventually find their way to the main MCU timeline (possibly due to the interdimensional rift Dar-Benn caused at the end of The Marvels).

Production is expected to get underway this summer, and the film is set to bow on July 25, 2025.

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comicfan100
comicfan100 - 4/17/2024, 11:23 PM
His inclusion was probably always the case, so I doubt it's "damage control" as some would say. Just gotta wait to get all the information.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 4/18/2024, 1:25 AM
@comicfan100 - "Wait to get all the information."

Where they do that at?

Insert King T'Challa "We don't do that here" gif.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/18/2024, 2:18 AM
@EskimoJ - User Comment Image
Scarilian
Scarilian - 4/18/2024, 3:41 AM
@comicfan100 -
LaKeith Stanfield was likely part of an open casting call for 'Silver Surfer', Disney deciding to include a version of Silver Surfer as the herald of Galactus but not caring whether said Silver Surfer was male or female.

• If it was male it'd be Norrin Radd, who volunteered to be Galactus's herald out of love for his partner and to spare his world.

• If it was female it'd be Shalla-Bal, who volunteered to be Galactus's herald out of love for her partner and to spare her world.

If Norrin is in the film it'd likely be for the opening of the film, in his non-Silver Surfer form to explain where Shalla-Bal came from in order to explain her motivations and/or set-up him being the next herald after Shalla-Bal is killed/sacrifices herself to delay/defeat Galactus.

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Origame
Origame - 4/18/2024, 5:08 AM
@comicfan100 - you say this based on a rumor.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 4/18/2024, 9:06 AM
@comicfan100 - It's still beyond dumb that Shalla-Bal is the Silver Surfer instead of Norrin, over 50 years of comic book history thrown out the window because of one limited elseworlds series from 1999 where Shalla is only the Surfer for about 5 issues.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 4/18/2024, 9:45 AM
@soberchimera - . . . he said, commenting on an article about how Norrin Rad will also be the Silver Surfer.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 4/18/2024, 10:17 AM
@Origame - Female Silver Surfer was a rumor months before she was confirmed.
Origame
Origame - 4/18/2024, 10:31 AM
@comicfan100 - ...so? That doesn't justify anything, considering 99.9% of rumors end up being completely made up bs based on nothing.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 4/18/2024, 11:05 AM
@Origame - The closer a movie is to production, the more likely the rumor is legit. And the cast we have now was rumored way last year. At this point, it's denial to assume Norin won't be in.
Origame
Origame - 4/18/2024, 11:18 AM
@comicfan100 - no it doesn't. Because these rumors aren't made by industry insiders. They're made by people online speculating about sh!t they don't know.

Also, even if norrin is in it I can guarantee he won't actually be anything like he is in the comics. Such as when they made Carol Danvers captain marvel instead of mar vell. Sure, we got mar vell. But not only was he gender swapped but they also removed his superhero identity and killed him (now her) before the main story.
Franshu
Franshu - 4/17/2024, 11:23 PM
I'm OK if the OOG SIlver Surfer is in it too, and we have an Earth X type of situation then. The Silver SUrfer has such an iconic look that any needless change would honestly feel gimmicky and unnecessary.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/17/2024, 11:25 PM
Ok but cast Sir Jonathan Majors , people will take no less.
Fogs
Fogs - 4/18/2024, 3:37 AM
@Malatrova15 - LOL
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 4/17/2024, 11:29 PM
Would love to see him as Brother Voodoo but I wouldn't mind seeing him as Norrin Radd.
Mrnorth1921
Mrnorth1921 - 4/17/2024, 11:30 PM
I knew it. This is an alternate reality. So I suspect galactus took Norrin’s girl because he was petty and angry after Norrin abandoned him as his herald.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 4/17/2024, 11:32 PM
Who?
mynameisn0body
mynameisn0body - 4/17/2024, 11:39 PM
i think julia will be the ss in their universe. and in the mcu it will be norrin radd.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/17/2024, 11:42 PM
Sounds like this movie is trying to balance a lot of stuff. Let’s see if they can pull it off.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 4/17/2024, 11:47 PM
@mountainman - Its a bold move indeed Cotton.
Timerider
Timerider - 4/18/2024, 12:43 AM
@Malatrova15 - if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.
Killuminatic
Killuminatic - 4/18/2024, 1:21 AM
@Timerider - But could you dodge Deez?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/18/2024, 4:54 AM
@mountainman - If the movie is done in the style of a biopic and we move through the decades at an easy storytelling pace it could work really, really well.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 4/18/2024, 9:22 AM
@mountainman - They won't, there are just too many cooks in the kitchen at Marvel Studios these days, in order to get a decent adaptation these days you need a director with some gravitas like a Nolan or a Vileneuve who will have most creative control over the project. Why do you think the Hellboy reboot failed? So many producers behind the scenes were trying to launch a cinematic universe that they wouldn't let the director do his job.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 4/17/2024, 11:56 PM
I thought Lakeith’s first lover died going to the store to buy tater tots and Baskin Robbin’s??
RolandD
RolandD - 4/18/2024, 7:33 AM
@JFerguson - Imagine her cholesterol.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 4/18/2024, 12:23 PM
@RolandD - she was going to the bone orchard
KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 4/17/2024, 11:59 PM
This movie isn't unfortunately going save the MCU, it's a dang shame.

It also doesn't help that with sites like CBM supporting Spoiler Culture, we don't even need to see the movie
SethBullock
SethBullock - 4/18/2024, 12:09 AM
Why can't they just make a normal Fantastic Four movie that is just good enough or even great, what is the need for all these changes, why does Marvel seem to be obsessed with unnecessary overcomplications.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 4/18/2024, 1:28 AM
@SethBullock - Fantastic Four movies up to this point have all been trash -- yes, without exception -- so "good enough" really isn't a high bar here.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 4/18/2024, 3:34 AM
@SethBullock - what do you mean by changes?
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 4/18/2024, 3:53 AM
@SethBullock - we don't need normal. We don't need safe. We need something that will make an impact and be memorable.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 4/18/2024, 5:32 AM
@SethBullock - If there are two Silver Surfers, then that isn't a change, it is straight from Earth X although it likely won't be exactly the same. However that has been the thing from the get go, they are all adaptions pulling from multiple iterations and stories and in most cases simplify the BIG stories (like Civil War) not overly complicate them and oft a reason for that as most the BIG stories draw from a LOT of prior stories underpining them and oft have a LOT more characters featured.

Now, if this will be great, good, average or meh aside, being in an alternate universe instantly simplifies things in a major way as it isn't weighed down by all that has already been done in the MCU and for the GA means it can easily be there first ever Marvel movie and viewed as entirely standalone.

It is a completely clean slate to intro the F4 without needing to include or reference any other previously introduced narrative history or characters without running the issue of contradicting established history if they had just set it in the past on Earth prime. It means they can more readily destroy that entire alternate universe by the end of the film if they want to demonstrate the threat to all timeline including Earth prime and leave the First Family as refugees that end up on Battleword and/or 616 after that if they choose to.

Most importantly, these are all rumors as may be BS or missing important context and details and what can look like being a complicated mess can be easy to follow when you actualy watch it. Consider if we got drip drip rumors on the Back to the Future films for instance, would bamboozle most brains and sound like impossible to follow yet bar maybe the second film they are loved and easy to follow the stories.

End of the day the origin story of the Fantastic Four was retconned so many times the original 60's run isn't even canon to 616 comics anyway so doing an alt universe version, pulling heavily from Earth X, to do a 60's set version is fine by me as long as the film turns out to be good :D
soberchimera
soberchimera - 4/18/2024, 9:09 AM
@Toonstrack - You can do all that AND be faithful to the source material, look how faithful the Dune movies were to the book, and they made an impact without changing Chani the Mahdi or Gurney into Paul's sassy aunt.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 4/18/2024, 11:18 AM
@Toonstrack - you like the Disney "Star Wars" trilogy so you dont know anything but safe and certainly nothing memorable.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/18/2024, 3:07 PM
@soberchimera - But they condensed everything into the past, instead of having them become a part of the Fremen tribe for years and years like in the book. Even cut out Paul and Chani's son. Those were big changes. And they gender-swapped Dr. Liet-Kynes.

Also it looks like TFF will be more faithful to the source material than any other Marvel movie.
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 4/19/2024, 1:29 AM
@soberchimera - faithful to the source material has zero bearing on whether a project is good.

Guardians taught you that ten years ago.
Toonstrack
Toonstrack - 4/19/2024, 1:30 AM
@McMurdo - riiiight tlj was safe and unmemorable.

Thats why people are stull arguing over it 8 years later, because it was safe and no one remembered it.

Totally.

Could bring up other things too, but... yeah. No..
McMurdo
McMurdo - 4/19/2024, 3:16 AM
@Toonstrack - lol you mean the film that came after the remake of A New Hope where the guy said screw it let's BURN IT DOWN? YA. we remember it....for botching Luke Skywalker for egomania and hubris. Notice the irony of missing the very point of his own film. The most memorable part of Johnson's film is when he had his female protagonist hold hands with the guy who mind raped her a couple days prior LOL. You're right. It's the opposite of safe. It's borderline narcissistic.
Radders
Radders - 4/19/2024, 8:56 AM
@Toonstrack - actually Guardians is very similar to their run during Annihilation
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