How does Smaug fit into a 'Hobbit' Trilogy?

How does Smaug fit into a 'Hobbit' Trilogy?

The news of a lengthened 'Hobbit' trilogy has been all the talk in Middle Earth the past few days, but where does Smaug the Magnificent fit in to all of this?

Editorial Opinion
By OrangeLazarus33 - Aug 05, 2012 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantasy
Source: theonering.net

The news of Peter Jackson's 'The Hobbit' being split into three films rather than two has both delighted and divided lots of fans over the past week. Fantastic news for those of us worried about whether or not we'd be able to take in everything we so desperately want to see without the Hollywood machine cutting and trimming the stuff fan boys and girls love so much about the source material (e.g. The missing Mr. Bombadil from the LOTR film trilogy). However, it remains worrisome for the folks who don't think the novel and appendices can successfully play out over a full trilogy, and poses an excellent question for the armchair screenwriter...how do they split this thing up, and where do they stick Smaug? As the climax of the second film? Do they save the Battle of Five Armies for the third?

Thomas Monteath at theonering.net has posed an interesting theory on how this may work, but has played down the golden dragon as a bit of a secondary villain, comparing him to Sauruman in the LOTR film trilogy. One thing's for sure, this debate is certain to keep super fans speculating over their Longbottom Leaf with possible theories for months to come.

What do you think? How would you split the story into three films instead of two...and where would you put Smaug?

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gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 8/5/2012, 4:59 PM
@sotojuiceman

you argument doesn't stand up because the Hobbit is just the original Hobbit book, but nearly everything Tolken wrote concerning middle earth, the hobbit is merely the main story, including a full book (intended to be a sequel to lord of the rings) Silmarillion, Tolken's unfinished tales, battles mentioned, will be fully shown, events that were told in exposition will be shown, its kind of wrapping up the rest of the story of middle earth, considering none of these stories could get movies on their own
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/5/2012, 7:16 PM
@ gamecreator

While the Silmarillion was originally presented a sequel to the Hobbit, it wasnt really written like a story, and only one part (the final act) even took place in The Third Age.

The book is broken into parts, one told the creation of the world, the next told of events of The First Age, the 3rd told of The Second Age. It was the final act that was merely a brief description of The Third Age and The Rings of Power, which was later expanded on, rewritten and turned into what we know as LOTR. The true sequel to the Hobbit.

But the Silmarillion was all written more like an overall description of events rather than an actual story. Its written like a history textbook.

So really, there is nothing in that book that could really be included in these Hobbit movies. Everything in it takes place before The Third Age, aside The Rings of Power, but that is just an account of LOTR, so there would be no need for it.
writerguy1976
writerguy1976 - 8/5/2012, 8:10 PM
I think this will just end up being the main story of the Hobbit, but then filling in the gaps surrounding the LOTR's stories. We know from what else was briefly mentioned in the Lord of the Rings books as well as appendices of what was happening with the dwarves and elves just before Bilbo left on his unexpected journey. Evil was once again lurking in dark places in Middle-Earth. I think as the article mentioned the triology of hobbit movies will fill in all those gaps. In Peter Jackson we trust! :)
ralfinader
ralfinader - 8/6/2012, 3:06 PM
I predict Smaug is in the last half of part 2, and his death begins part 3...and yes, that was a spoiler.
OrangeLazarus33
OrangeLazarus33 - 8/6/2012, 10:11 PM
@JokerFanHAhaHA--I think he's certainly capable of giving us something to be proud of, and I hope he does. I'm fairly sure we'll see Smaug in the second film, but I don't see how it could overlap into the third. What could be the climax of the second film if not Smaug? That would leave quite a bit of exposition in the third film leading up to the Battle of Five Armies. I trust Jackson though, I'm just interested to see how the fans would do it.
VicSage
VicSage - 8/7/2012, 8:45 AM
I thought Jackson would have done something similar to how Harry Potter 7 split up as films. Jackson would do everything just before Smaug in The Hobbit pt 1, and begin The Hobbit pt 2 with Smaug and end with the Battle of the Five Armies. This way, the first part is loads of exposition, drama, and set up, while the second part is action-packed and moving fast. When I heard of a third film, I thought it would be nice to create an original film based on the appendices... but I guess some of those notes are now going into The Hobbit and thus extending everything into three films.
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