EDITORIAL: Addressing The Green Lantern "Troubled Production" and "Terrible Movie" Comments

EDITORIAL:  Addressing The Green Lantern "Troubled Production" and "Terrible Movie" Comments

Ever since the Green Lantern trailer came out, the Internet has been overloaded with negative comments and rumors from "reliable" websites stating that the Green Lantern movie will be bad. I took the time to go in depth and give a non-biased, FACTUAL review of the FACTS we have regarding Green Lantern, Captain America: The First Avenger, and Thor productions showing how high OR low our expectations should be. Click the jump to see my reasoning.

Editorial Opinion
By Kryptonman87 - Jan 17, 2011 07:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Green Lantern

First, and foremost, I think it is important for me to mention that I recieved my Bachelor of Science in Film/Television/Radio while attending college. Yes, it involved a lot of production and post-production classes, but I also have a lot of education in film history, film theory, and film structure. In short, a good movie/film (and this applies to comic book movies as well) boils down to 3 core factors: Direction, Story/Screenpaly, and Acting. I basically told you guys and gals something you probably already knew without paying 150 thousand dollars to learn. Basically, I'm writing this article because I am irritated by all the rumors that Green Lantern has been a troubled production and will be a terrible movie, so I have analyzed the production information for Green Lantern, Captain America: The First Avenger, and Thor to better inform everyone and to help everyone in forming a better opinion and expectation for each of these films.

First, lets look at Green Lantern. It is being directed by Martin Campbell. Campbell started out directing in television, then made the move to films. His first big movie is arguably the BEST James Bond movie ever made: Golden Eye. He then went on to direct The Mask of Zorro and The Legend of Zorro. The Mask of Zorro earned an Academy Award and Golden Globe nominations. It also launched the careers of Antonio Banderas and Catherine Zeta-Jones. These were beautiful films. After Legend of Zorro, he did Casino Royale which redefined James Bond. He made him a rough, balls to the wall action hero who wasn't afraid to get bloody and bashed. I think Campbell understands the hearts and souls of the characters in his films and knows how to shoot them. Out of the 8 major motion pictures Campbell has shot, none of them have been terrible by any means.

Next, is the writing. Written by Greg Berlanti and Michael Goldenberg, I think that the story and mythos of Green Lantern was placed in very capable hands.

Goldenberg previous writing credits include Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix, Peter Pan, and Contact.

Berlanti is more known for writing for television shows, such as Jack and Bobby, Dawson's Creek, Everwood, and No Ordinary Family. Writing for television, Berlanti has a lot of experience sticking with continuity and getting to the hearts and souls of characters. Goldenberg has A LOT of experience writing about characters from literary texts (Harry Potter, Peter Pan), so you know that they will not stray far from the current Green Lantern comics.

Not to mention, Geoff Johns (current Green Lantern writer, man responsible for making Gree Lantern the number one selling comic book since 2005) approved the script and said that "it is Green Lantern."

Lastly for GL: Acting.

Ryan Reynolds has been Van Wilder, Blade Trinity, The Amityville Horror, Just Friends, Waiting, X-Men Origins Wolverine, The Proposal, and Definately, Maybe are some of his other films.

Mark Strong is a GREAT actor. He knows how to play the sinester, evil type. He was in Ridley Scott's Robin Hood, Kick-Ass, Sherlock Holmes, and Body of Lies.

Peter Skarsgaard was in Boys Don't Cry, Jarhead, Garden State, and Knight and Day.

Blake Lively is most known for her work on Gossip Girl. I think that all these actors have great acting ability and each of them possesses the ability to play their perspective characters to a tee. They're all a joy to watch and know what they're doing.

Captain America is directed by Joe Johnson. His most notable films are The Rocketeer, Honey I Shrunk The Kids, Jumanji, Jursassic Park III, Hidalgo, and The Wolfman. In my opinion, aside from The Rocketeer, none of these movies were particularly good. Even Johnson was disappointed with The Wolfman. But he has praised the production of Cap as being his best experience in the film business in his 25 years in the biz, so I think the direction of the film will be much better than his previous films.

Captain America was written by Christopher Markus. He is most known for writing the 3 Chronicles of Narnia movies. From what I've heard, those movies weren't particularly good, but I haven't seen them so I can't make a fair judgement. However, from what I've heard of the Cap storyline and how close they're sticking to the comics, I think the story will be good and a good representation of the comics.

Last for Cap is acting.

Chris Evans certainly bulked up and looks the part for Steve Rogers. I think that he's an enjoyable actor to watch, much like Ryan Reynolds. He's been in Not Another Teen Movie, the two Fantastic Four movies (which aren't well liked), Push, The Losers (which I think was awesome. Who didn't love the elevator/"dangerous telekinetic" scene) and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World.

Hugo Weaving. We all loved him in the LOTR trilogy, The Matrix trilogy, and V for Vendetta.

Tommy Lee Jones, most known for The Fugitive, U.S. Marshals, No Country For Old Men, Men in Black I and II, and Batman Forever. He's a GREAT actor and a joy to watch on screen.

Last but not least: Thor. It's directed by Kenneth Branagh. He is best known for his film adaptations of Shakespeare plays such has Henry V, Hamlet, Mid Summer Night's Dream, also Frankenstein, and most recently, Sleuth. He's never done a big, action epic like Thor before, but he has done a lot of classic-story films that deal with family, betrayal, and romance, which is the foundation of Thor, so I think he knows what he's doing with Thor.

Thor was written by Zack Stentz. Credits include Agent Cody Banks, tv series Fringe, Andromeda, and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Also written by Ashley Miller. She worked on worked with Stentz on Cody Banks, Fringe, Andromeda, and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

And lastly for Thor is Acting:

Chris Hemsworth is still relatively new. He had a brief role in J.J. Abram's Star Trek, will be in the remake of Red Dawn, and has done a bit of acting in Australian television. He bulked up for the role and definately looks the part. The only iffy situation with him is that he hasn't had a whole lot of expereince, but from what I've seen in the 6 minute comic con preview and the trailer, he seems to understand the character and how to portray him.

Natalie Portman: Best known for the Star Wars prequels, she's been acting since she was a kid. She was in Heat, Garden State, Brothers, Black Swan, and V for Vendetta. She's capable and attractive. She has a lot of experience under her belt.

Sir Anthony Hopkins: true master of the craft. He's been in so many unforgettable roles that I don't think I even need to list them. We all know he'll make the PERFECT Odin.

Tom Hiddleston: He's an English actor and most of his stuff is England-based, so I haven't seen any of it. I don't know how he'll play Loki, we haven't seen any scenes of him yet, besides when Odin banishes Thor. But I have high hopes.

In the end, each film has their strengths and their weaknesses. Each film has directors with some good movies, some bad, and some very unknown work that many probably haven't seen. Each film has writers with some note worthy film writing credits, and writers with a lot of television writing experience. And each film has it's fair share of great actors, lesser experienced actors, and actors that have been in VERY poor movies. So, I think it's VERY unfair for Green Lantern to be singled out with the rumor that it's going to be a "terrible movie". It's too early to tell, we haven't heard or seen anything concrete on the actual plot. From the trailer we've all seen, it looks EXACTLY like the Geoff Johns best-selling graphic novel "Green Lantern: Secret Origin. We see Hal Jordan as the cocky, womanizing test pilot. We see him hit rock bottom. We see him meet Abin Sur and inherit the power ring. We see him go to Oa for training. We see him meet Kilowog, Tomar Re, Sinestro, and all the other GL Corps members. And we see him struggle with the power ring choosing him and his responsiblity as a GL. We also see him step up, accept his responsiblity, and master the power of the ring. I have not seen or heard ONE THING that would lead me to believe this movie will not be a proper representation of the comics. If people are going to create doubt about Green Lantern, then they should do it with Cap and Thor too. Cap and Thor have just as much opportunity and potential to be bad or fail as GL. What do you guys thinnk?

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Celenco
Celenco - 1/17/2011, 8:33 PM
I completely agree, the eagerness of the Comic book community to always bash movies before they come out may end up being the down fall of comic book movies, soon people will stop going out to watch these movies because of what they read online and guess who loses in the long run....yeah, YOU and I.

STOP THE SILLINESS AND WAIT TILL THE MOVIE COMES OUT, THEN YOU CAN GO BASHING IF IT DESERVES IT.
HulkPool
HulkPool - 1/17/2011, 9:19 PM
Thank You very much!!!! Glad to see a few that agree.
Kryptonman87
Kryptonman87 - 1/17/2011, 9:38 PM
In all fairness and honesty Intruder, I wrote out an article that went really in depth into each director, each actor, each writer, etc, gave a lot of my opinions and what not, had a friend read it before I posted it, and he told me to cut it down. It was about 4 times longer than this article is and he thought that it was too long and people wouldn't read it. Which is a pretty fair assumption since i think that most people want things short and to the point.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS ARTICLE IS THIS: People are making premature judgments and assumptions saying that Green Lantern will be bad because it's directed by Martin Campbell, written by TV writers, and has an inexperienced cast. I wanted to point out to the NEGLEGENT dumba$$e$ who are just hateful and want to dump on Green Lantern that Captain America and Thor have a bigger potential to suck and be terrible movies than Green Lantern.

If you want more in depth, for Captain America: Joe Johnson hasn't had a REALLY successful movie. EVER! Yeah, he did The Rocketeer, but that's about it. Jumanji, Jursassic Park III, Honey I Shrunk The Kids were all piss poor excuses for movies. Terrible, campy shots that any hack with a video camera could shoot. And The Wolfman was so bad I'm surprised anyone even let that movie come out. The writing was crap, but the direction was worse. I don't think Joe Johnson is the right man for a movie that is the scale of Captain America. I think he's going to blow this one pretty big time.

The writing on Captain America could be decent. From the pics and spoilers, it sounds like it'll be very close to the comics, but the people writing it haven't done anything THIS big before and the stuff they have done in TV was pretty weak.

The only thing saving Cap, in my mind, is going to be the performances by Hugo Weaving and Tommy Lee Jones. Chris Evans has the physique, but I don't think he possess the acting ability to be Steve Rogers. He's too sarcastic and jocky.

For Thor, Kenneth Branagh is a better actor than a director. Yes, he's done a lot of Shakespeare movies, which have a lot of corraltations to the Thor mythos in the comics (family, betrayal, romances, deciet, bad blood, etc), but he has never done a big action epic nor has he done a movie that requires CGI. He doesn't have the film making experience to properly do Thor, in my opinion. I think it's too big for him and his inexperience will show.

Also, they cast Chris Hemsworth as Thor. To date, his biggest role was as Kirk's dad for 5 minutes in Star Trek. They cast him because he's a 6'7" sasquatch who has blonde hair and will bring in girls who want to look at him. He doesn't have ANY experience to prove that he can carry this character OR his hammer.

Not to mention, both Cap AND Thor are using the same story/plot structure: Starting in the present, going to the past, and ending in the present again. That is really uncreative and lame and weird. When people see that in theaters they'll be asking if the writers on both movies wrote these in the same freaking room. Do something unique. I mean hell, Batman Begins did something unique: Started in the present, gave flashes to the past splintered throughout, then just built up through the present.

Also, the cinematrography on Thor and Cap looks pretty cheesy. They all have that "Iron Man-esque" look of everything being waaay too squeaky clean and "new" looking. Thor is an Asgardian warrior God of Thunder and Captain America is a 1943 Super Soldier in the middle of WWII. DIRTY IT UP! Make it dark, edgy. Give it a realistic look. Even the Hydra soldiers are squeaky freaking clean.

My point is, at least with Green Lantern, the trailer showed that they are staying absolutely true to the origins, the costume is like 95% true to the comics, and Martin Campbell has a impressive resume of making good films. Golden Eye, Mask of Zorro, Legend of Zorro, Verticle Limit, Casino Royale. Hell, Casino Royale ALONE is better than all of Joe Johnsons movies or Kenneth Brannaghs.

If you want to make fair pre-judgments on Green Lantern, Captain America, and Thor, then look at all the past works of the 3 directors, the writers, and the actors. Don't judge them based on 2 minute trailers and production set pics. Martin Campbell has shown that he has the constant ability to make good FILMS. Joe Johnson and Kenneth Branagh are trying to make summer blockbusters that are more than likely too big for them to take on. Not because they don't possess the vision, but because of the lack of experience.
Kryptonman87
Kryptonman87 - 1/17/2011, 9:57 PM
And to add, Martin Campbell is taking on Green Lantern as a space-opera epic, like the original Star Wars movies. He's showing the brightest and blackest corners of space, which showing the beauty and danger that lies out there. He's also directing this movie as part of a trilogy. Because he knows that Greg Berlanti and Michael Goldenberg are constructing the story to be 3 movies, he's not going to rush everything together. He's going to be more focused on constructing and conveying the story than he is on shoving as many awesome looking action scenes down our throats for fear he won't get a second chance to in a sequel. By constructing a solid story and building it in a way so that the story will finish in a second and thrid film gives the director fewer creative liberties, but it helps to keep them on track and maintain the original idea/image.

And if you look again at Joe Johnson, this is a man who says that he craves and thrives on pressure and hectic shoots........ How's that worked out for him? Statisically, he doesn't prepare well in pre-production. That doesn't mean that he didn't fix this issue for Captain America, but we haven't seen anything to prove otherwise.

Also, with Green Lantern: Campbell and crew have allowed set visits to reporters and other media people. Reports and videos have gone online of people who saw all the concept art, the costumes, the make-up, etc... They all said it looked spectacular and looks exactly like it does in the comics. They praised how unique it was and that it was unlike anything they had ever seen. This and all of Campbell's previous films shows that he plans well in Pre-Production. He knows what he wants, how to convey it to his crew, and how to execute/achieve it. Pre-Production is probably more important than ACTUAL production. If you don't plan and have a detailed road map of where you're taking everyone and how you're going to execute the filming, then you're going to fail. You can't just "go with the flow" on a set. It doesn't work that way. Johnson does that A LOT. Branagh, who the hell knows. The only thing we've heard about Cap or Thor is from the actors themselves and OF COURSE they're gonna promote the hell out of it!
Joker11
Joker11 - 1/17/2011, 11:30 PM
I agree with intruder on everything he said. I only have one question who gives a damn about cinematography because personally I don't go sit in a movie and when it's over go his car wasn't dirty enough it was to squeaky clean or his face should of been more layered with friken make up so he didn't look so good.
Angelus
Angelus - 1/18/2011, 3:48 AM
You got F'ed in the A, Intruder. And it feeeeels sooo great!

BMP!
thunderforce
thunderforce - 1/18/2011, 6:00 AM
It may suck it may not but even if it does it will end up making a shit load of money just because space and other worlds + 3d = shit load of cash .
Kryptonman87
Kryptonman87 - 1/18/2011, 6:24 AM
I'm not trying to dump on anything. I've been a comic fan since I was freaking 7, so I am definatey one of the most excited that this is the BIGGEST CBM summer ever. The whole point of this article was to basically point out that everyone seems to be slinging mud towards GL, Intruder. I just really think it's crap to only do that for GL. I'm not biased one way or the other. What I said about Cap and Thor was just me proving a point that if you look hard enough or WANT TO SEE THEM AS BAD MOVIES ENOUGH, then all three of these movies have their flaws.

My whole purpose here was to simply get a message across: If you're going to dump on one CBM that hasn't come out yet, then you should dump on all of them. I want to see Captain America succeed. I love the character and think he can be translated to film just as greatly as Batman has been. I want Thor to succeed. He's probably my favorite Marvel character. He has so much lore, both comic and Norse, that it could be another epic like Lord of the Rings.

Long and short of it, Intruder: I want all three of these movies to succeed. And even if people were dumping on Cap, I would still have tried to make this point to people. These movies aren't like Joel Schumacher's Batman movies, they're not like the 1991 Captain America movie, they're not like Spider-Man 3 or Jonah Hex. They have great potential and are being done with great care and attention. I'm also going to assume that you're a Marvel fan, so I'm probably wasting my breath here, but nevertheless
DetBullock
DetBullock - 1/18/2011, 8:14 AM
@Intruder: War of The Worlds is a great film, it is just that doesn't follow many of the alien invasion cliché focusing on the ravaged population istead of the classic action-hero-that-kicks-the-aliens-in-the-butt.
One2three
One2three - 1/18/2011, 1:50 PM
@superargo
You are a joke. And...
Devilhunter318
Devilhunter318 - 1/18/2011, 3:43 PM
while watching the GL trailer, the biggest thing that jumped out at me was the pure humanity that they put into Hal's Character
bigbgl
bigbgl - 1/18/2011, 4:54 PM
HOLY JEEZ!!!! The almighty intruder has been taken down!! If this were a court case intruder would lose all around!! Krypton man made you seem like a pathetic joke respectfully and humbly!

And krypton man, thank you so much. You have no idea what you have done. You have completely made my day!! Just yesterday after reading all of these terrible posts I was beginning to lose hope, be brainwashed even by all of these Nasty rumors and remarks. You have one hundred percent reinstated my faith in the truly amazing story of the green lantern.

5 more months everyone!!!!
GLGeek
GLGeek - 1/18/2011, 7:15 PM
Kypton man, thank you for restoring some hope for this film in my mind. I'm a long time GL fan and I admit, this movie has me nervous. It's not the film as a whole, but it's the jarring information that keeps coming out. And I believe that is what leads to most of the outrage. Back when they announced it, I was 100% ready for any and all information. Then casting commenced and I heard that Justin Timberlake was in the running for Hal. That started all of the negativity for me. Then Ryan was cast, and I was forced to imagine Hal quipping his way through the entire movie. Next was the costume and I'm still not used to it. Thus far, all I can think is that all the GLs look like tires. I guess I'm saying the trailer or film as a whole doesn't have me nervous, but rather the little things that keep popping up. Regardless, I'll be there on opening day with my stomach in knots and WB will be getting as much money out of me as I can spare. If for nothing else than to keep the DC CMB moving forward.
Kryptonman87
Kryptonman87 - 1/18/2011, 8:32 PM
Thank you GLGeek and Bigbgl. I'm glad to see that the two of you were able to understand what my editorial was about and I am extremely glad it helped to reinstate your excitment towards this movie.

You know, though, I gotta say: I too was skeptical about some of the choices for this movie for a while, but now I truly love every aspect of it. As far as the suit goes: Look at the recent comics, like in Blackest Night and Brightst Day. The design of the costume in the movie is the EXACT SAME as teh comic, minus the white gloves (which i'm glad they aren't using). The only real difference is the texture of the suit, and I think it's a cool, interesting, unique idea. The suit comes from the ring and they wanted it to look organic, almost like the suit is its own living, breathing thing. I think it looks fantastic now and it's a true representation to the comics. More so than the Captain America and Thor costumes.

Also, I think Ryan Reynolds will make a great Hal Jordan. Yes, he would have made a better Wally West Flash (NOT Barry Allen), but I think he's got it all to play Hal: He's cocky, he's charming, he'll be sarcastic in the face of danger, he'll challenge authority with the Guardians, Sinestro, and Kilowog. He'll play off the fearless vibe. And he won't be the egotistical superhero like Spider-Man and Iron Man. He'll be a true officer to the Corps, just like in the comics. Yes, there will be some comedic lines/scenes, but those are present in the comics as well. Hell, there were even some in Batman Begins and Dark Knight. It won't be like Iron Man 1 and 2 where every line out of Downey's mouth was meant as a punchline.
Kryptonman87
Kryptonman87 - 1/18/2011, 8:37 PM
Not to mention, Green Lantern: Secret Origin is probably one of my all time favorite GL graphic novels, and I was so freaking thrilled when I saw that trailer and saw how close they are sticking to that particular story for the origin in this movie. I mean, the crash site, him holding Abin Sur, him being transported automatically to Oa through space, Kilowog getting in his face during his training, Sinestro being his mentor, the presence of the Parallax threat that drew Abin Sur to earth, etc.... I mean, that trailer looked like it took exact panels out of Secret Origin. I am so glad they are relying so much on Geoff Johns' work on GL
gmoney0505
gmoney0505 - 1/18/2011, 10:48 PM
Great article. The only reason people try to bash GL so hard is because of the suit at the end and there wasn't any action in the trailer really. Since the suit CGI wasn't up to par with the rest, they try to bash it and say all the CGI looks bad. People just took one thing they didn't like and blew it out of proportion (like the comedy thing gonna take over the movie when there was only like 15secs of comedy compared to 2mins of seriousness). When the Thor trailer was posted I knew it was going to be liked cause they showed alot of action in which that whats majority of people based their decision on going to see the movie or liking it more.

The GL trailer was up my ally. Showed me little on what to expect from action but also showed me GL will be a movie about hal's trail's to overcome fear.

The Thor trailer just showed Thor getting banned from where he is from and alot of action and stuff blowing up. Alot of action and stuff in trailers dont impress me (IM2)

Hal's trail of overcoming fear if done right will make the movie better imo. Both movies have to be more than just action in it to be good (which GL trailer hinted at him being cocky & scared and trying to evolve into becoming a serious & fearless GL). The trailer put impression that Hal will have character development. But GL has to deliver at those hints to be a very awesome movie.
Whiteharted
Whiteharted - 1/19/2011, 10:29 AM
Right adressing you agurement for GL has some MASSIVE flaws, first and formost your example of Goldenberg as a screenwriter. Er everyone of those movies you listed are terrible and for the record many consider the HP film he wrote to be the weakest so far. The tone is also all over the place. For agruements for the Captain America movie was also flawed, as even though I acually agree with you about Joe Johnson you missed out his BEST movie so far: October Sky. No agruement for or agaisnt him should ignore that it was a great movie. Your example for GL Director Martin Campbell is sound,as is your Thor example.
Whiteharted
Whiteharted - 1/19/2011, 10:30 AM
Right adressing you agurement for GL has some MASSIVE flaws, first and formost your example of Goldenberg as a screenwriter. Er everyone of those movies you listed are terrible and for the record many consider the HP film he wrote to be the weakest so far. For agruements for the Captain America movie was also flawed, as even though I acually agree with you about Joe Johnson you missed out his BEST movie so far: October Sky. No agruement for or agaisnt him should ignore that it was a great movie. Your example for GL Director Martin Campbell is sound.
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