GHOSTBUSTERS: FROZEN EMPIRE Star Ernie Hudson Questions The Need For 2016's Female-Led Reboot

GHOSTBUSTERS: FROZEN EMPIRE Star Ernie Hudson Questions The Need For 2016's Female-Led Reboot

Ernie Hudson has become an icon for his role as Dr. Winston Zeddemore in the original Ghostbusters movies and now questions why 2016's female-led movie needed to reboot the franchise with new characters.

By JoshWilding - Mar 25, 2024 05:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Ghostbusters
Source: The Independent (via FearHQ.com)

Rumours about a third Ghostbusters movie swirled for literal decades, but a threequel never materialised following Ghostbusters II's 1989 release. Eventually, a reboot followed in 2016 with an all-female cast (the original leads, meanwhile, were relegated to cameo roles as forgettable new characters).

While the movie faced an inevitable level of sexist backlash before it arrived in theaters, the simple fact was it ended up being a largely disappointing fresh start for the franchise which failed to take full advantage of stars Kristen Wiig, Melissa McCarthy, Kate McKinnon, and Leslie Jones. 

In 2021, a proper third instalment - Ghostbusters: Afterlife - was released and a fourth chapter, Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, just arrived in theaters. That's given the franchise's original stars a chance to shine alongside a new, younger cast, and Ernie Hudson (Dr. Winston Zeddemore) reflected on the 2016 reboot in an interview with The Independent (via FearHQ.com).

"Look, I’m a fan of [director] Paul Feig so I have nothing negative about him to say," he tells the site. "Other than: I don’t quite understand why you do a reboot, you know what I mean? Just make another movie."

Saying Wiig, McCarthy, McKinnon, and Jones were "brilliantly funny on their own," Hudson notes, "Fans were really invested in the story and the characters and I think it was disappointing. I enjoyed the movie but I think it wasn’t what fans were hoping for."

As for what the future holds in store for Winston after Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, the beloved actor says nothing has been discussed yet, but admits he'd "love for Winston Zeddemore to be the Nick Fury of the Ghostbusters."

Back in 2021, McCarthy shared her confusion about the backlash and defended the 2016 movie's intention to put the spotlight on four female leads. "There’s no end to stories we can tell, and there’s so many reboots and relaunches and different interpretations, and to say any of them are wrong, I just don’t get it, I don’t get the fight to see who can be the most negative and the most hate-filled."

"Everybody should be able to tell the story they want to tell. If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to see it."

In Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, the Spengler family returns to where it all started – the iconic New York City firehouse – to team up with the original Ghostbusters, who’ve developed a top-secret research lab to take busting ghosts to the next level.

However, when the discovery of an ancient artifact unleashes an evil force, Ghostbusters new and old must join forces to protect their home and save the world from a second Ice Age.

The movie is now playing in theaters.

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TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 3/25/2024, 5:09 PM
I just don't understand how people in Hollywood gets their jobs. How this was made into a film is beyond me.... And I'm referring to the dumpster fire that was Frozen Empire.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/25/2024, 5:29 PM
@TheVandalore - Out of everything, this is what you question with that?
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 3/25/2024, 5:37 PM
What would be a question worthy of your approval? Go on. Provide suggestions.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 3/25/2024, 8:15 PM
@dagenspear - am I taking this too seriously too?
MasterMix
MasterMix - 3/25/2024, 5:11 PM
1. Ghostbusters (1984)
2. Ghostbusters: Afterlife
3. Ghostbusters II
4. Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire
5. Ghostbusters (2016)
Origame
Origame - 3/25/2024, 5:17 PM
@MasterMix - let me correct this.

1) ghostbusters 1984
2) ghostbusters afterlife
3) ghostbusters 2
4) ghostbusters frozen empire.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 5:24 PM
@MasterMix -

1.Ghostbusters (1984)/Afterlife
2.Ghostbusters 2
3.Ghostbusters (2016).

Still need to see Frozen Empire.
marvel72
marvel72 - 3/25/2024, 9:02 PM
@MasterMix

1st Ghostbusters
2nd Ghostbusters 2

3rd Ghostbusters:Afterlife
dragon316
dragon316 - 3/25/2024, 5:17 PM
Well said to many reboots some sequels are bad ghost busters sequels are only ones that are holding up well
Origame
Origame - 3/25/2024, 5:18 PM
But then you literally say this about ironheart or any other female replacement example from marvel and you're instantly called sexist.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 3/25/2024, 6:12 PM
@Origame - Is Ironheart a reboot of something?

Because that's what Ernie Hudson stated in his quote.
Origame
Origame - 3/25/2024, 7:55 PM
@EskimoJ - yes, it's basically a reboot of Ironman. In the same vein of ghostbusters too.

Only difference is its in Canon with iron man, but considering she made an arc reactor and two different versions of the suit without even mentioning him, the fact he's a Canon character in that world is irrelevant.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 3/25/2024, 5:24 PM
Before the usuals rush in to call him a sexist incel or something. Also alt-right for some reason lol. Just realize everyone is entitled to an opinion. And just because it differs from yours doesn't automatically make them a monster.

With the exception of Leslie Jones all of those women are funny in their own right. Just not in that movie. Doesn't make me a monster for saying so.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 3/25/2024, 5:33 PM
@DarthOmega - I do not think anyone who actually read the quote would call him sexist. Just the headline-only readers.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/25/2024, 5:34 PM
@DarthOmega - Leslie Jones’ entire “comedy” career was built off of wide eyed yelling.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 3/25/2024, 5:58 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - You'd be surprised.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 3/25/2024, 6:00 PM
@mountainman - Exactly. Even though the movie Coming to America 2 was awful and isn't fit to tie the original's shoes. She actually was the best part of the film in my opinion. Which isn't saying much.
mountainman
mountainman - 3/25/2024, 6:03 PM
@DarthOmega - She was ok in it. Coming to America is my favorite comedy of that era. Still love it to this day. And I hate the sequel so much.

I really have never found her funny in anything. Because she has one thing she does: yell a bunch. That’s it. And I don’t find it funny at all.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 3/25/2024, 5:31 PM
I think it was a mix of it being another bland reboot in a string on bland reboots on top of the political and online discourse regarding DEI being really inflammatory at the point that did so much damage. I love the cast but it really just had nothing going for it and no real hook to justify its existence
Vigor
Vigor - 3/25/2024, 5:58 PM
@Ha1frican - this
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 6:01 PM
@Ha1frican - yep

Them being female wasn’t a real hook .
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 3/25/2024, 5:31 PM
He’s right in that I never understood why it was an unconnected reboot. Why was it not just a sequel with the same female characters? Just set in Chicago or something. Have the media shove the Ghostbusters name on them and then get sued. There are jokes there.

Although the 2016 movie actually grossed more than Afterlife and quite likely Frozen Empire so apparently it didn’t do everything wrong.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 3/26/2024, 7:52 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - The original trailer from the 2016 reboot showed the OG Ghostbusters firehouse for some reason, which implied it was connected...until it wasn't.
RockerTodd
RockerTodd - 3/26/2024, 8:17 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - "Why was it not just a sequel with the same female characters??"

I've learned that "feminists" who demand "equality" in their "popular" media cannot have characters who benefited from MEN (eww) for anything, ever. That's why Chris Hemsworth's secretary character is an incompetent boob when Annie Potts' secretary was brilliant. In Feminist Theology, ALL women constantly put up with men "just like that" in their lives, and have to achieve and succeed in an even more girl-bossy manner just to break even.

For the Gurlbusters to have NEEDED MEN who invented all of "their" Ghostbusting tech, they would have had their entire existence and journey invalidated, robbing them of their all powerful, illusory so-called "Agency".

That's why the original Ghostbusters did not appear as their appropriate characters, even though they were most certainly willing. The Gurlbusters HAD TO be independent, original and in a world without the male crew, or else they wouldn't have been gurl bosses.

It's all Marxist drivel, of course, but since "Logic is White Supremacy", a Marxist cannot be proven, and will never admit, that they are wrong (about everything).
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 5:38 PM
I honestly thought the 2016 reboot was ok…

I got some enjoyment out of it with Hemsworth being the MVP for me (though the rest of the cast did well imo) even though the humor itself was hit or miss.

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I personally wouldn’t have minded a sequel to it since it had some potential imo as someone who is a casual fan of the franchise but oh well , I know it didn’t do well at the box office so that was pretty much the death knell to it.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 3/25/2024, 6:01 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I agree with that take. It was ok. Not because there were women in it but because it wasn’t funny. The villain was weak. I will say Mackinnon was great but everyone else not so much. Not too much else to talk about other than that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 6:02 PM
@WhatIfRickJames - I thought the entire cast did well with what they had

There just wasn’t much to it hence nothing real else to talk about

Agree about the villain though.
captainireland
captainireland - 3/25/2024, 6:29 PM
@TheVisionary25 - If you want a sequel to it, the comics that continue the story are worth reading, especially the ones that cross the 2016 Ghostbusters over with the original Ghostbusters.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 6:42 PM
@captainireland - thanks

I’ll give ‘em a shot!!
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/25/2024, 5:54 PM
I agree. A reboot just felt unnecessary. Everything is legacy sequels nowadays, so I'm kinda surprised the 2016 movie wasn't that already
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/25/2024, 6:00 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I mean it is nowadays while reboots were more popular then they are now so hindsight’s 20-20

It fit the climate at the time.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 3/25/2024, 6:09 PM
@TheVisionary25 - feels like the legacy sequel era already kinda started by then. Maybe I have a skewed view due to Superman Returns though.

Imagine if this was a legacy sequel though and it completely ruined studio execs' faith in them. Movie landscape sure would've looked different then.
captainireland
captainireland - 3/25/2024, 6:30 PM
@TheVisionary25 - The Force Awakens and Jurassic World came the year before Ghostbusters 2016, so I'd say legacy sequels were definitely a trend by 2016.
CoHost
CoHost - 3/25/2024, 6:03 PM
The hate boner this movie gets is embarrassing.
RockerTodd
RockerTodd - 3/26/2024, 8:24 AM
@CoHost - I really hate how the throngs of women who claim to be sci-fi fans didn't Answer the Call and make this hilarious film a gigantic hit.

It was funny and brave and stunning and original and each actress was funny and so creative and brave and stunning. It really deserves to be considered an all-time comedic classic! I think it's even better than the original, just like how everyone thinks that decaffinated coffee is better than the regular junk.

...am I right?!
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 3/25/2024, 6:05 PM
Happytime Murders
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 3/25/2024, 6:12 PM
How's the new Ghostbusters doing relative to the 2016 abomination? 🫠
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 3/25/2024, 6:25 PM
@EskimoJ - Probably won’t gross as much domestically or worldwide. But neither did Afterlife. The problem with the 2016 movie wasn’t how much it made at the box office as much as it was how much it cost to make.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 3/26/2024, 7:54 AM
@TheUnworthyThor - It also did better because it came out pre-pandemic. People were more willing to take a risk on a shite film back then whereas now people just wait for streaming.
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 3/25/2024, 6:14 PM
I for one am a fan and i for damn sure wasnt hoping for this kind of trash movie. It just didnt work for me.
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