ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Has A "Weird," Open Ending According To Filmmaker Kevin Smith

ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Has A "Weird," Open Ending According To Filmmaker Kevin Smith

It was recently reported that Warner Bros. views Zack Snyder's Justice League as a "storytelling cul-de-sac," but filmmaker Kevin Smith has heard otherwise when it comes to how the "Snyder Cut" wraps up...

By JoshWilding - Jan 04, 2021 03:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: Fatman Beyond Podcast

Filmmaker Kevin Smith has been sharing some inside intel on the "Snyder Cut" of Justice League for a while now, and he even shed some light on Joss Whedon's behaviour during those reshoots.

Now, Smith has taken to his Fatman Beyond podcast to share his take on that recent report that Warner Bros. executives view Zack Snyder's Justice League as a "storytelling cul-de-sac." Based on what the director of movies like Clerks and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back has heard, the four-part event coming to HBO Max won't conclude in a truly definitive fashion. 

"I happen to know that the ending that he's got for the Snyder Cut is very not a cul-de-sac... it takes it to a weird neighborhood, but it's not a cul-de-sac," Smith says. "You can keep f***ing going with the story based on what I've heard from a friend."

This information may have come from "a friend of a friend," but it does make sense. Recently, there's been chatter that DC Comics Publisher Jim Lee wants Snyder to continue the Justice League story in the form of a comic book. The director, meanwhile, has confirmed that there will be no post-credits scene, meaning that Deathstroke stinger will be folded into the HBO Max version in some way.

It wouldn't be surprising for the "Snyder Cut" to finish in an open-ended way, but that could be frustrating to those hoping to see the filmmaker's vision for the DCEU get the conclusion it deserves here.


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of 2021's superhero movies from least to most anticipated!

9. Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins

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Meant to serve as a loose prequel to the first G.I. Joe movie, Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins is set to serve as an origin story for the title character. However, this isn't really a character who needs his backstory to be told, and it's a little surprising that an actor as talented as Henry Golding is being put beneath a mask and not speaking (and if he does speak, that goes against the character's roots).

With Red's Robert Schwentke at the helm, it doesn't feel like Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins really stands a chance of being anything other than another forgettable, generic action movie. 

It's possible it will surprise us, of course, but we're not banking on it being anything special when it does finally arrive in theaters next year...in fact, it might just end up heading to streaming...
 

8. Morbius

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Jared Leto returning to the world of comic books for Morbius is an undeniably intriguing prospect, but we're really struggling to get excited for this one. For the most part, that trailer was pretty lousy, though it was admittedly hard not to be intrigued by the surprise appearance of Michael Keaton's Vulture!

Whether that means it's set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe or just a world that's similar to it remains to be seen, but the lines between the MCU and "SPUMC" are definitely being blurred.

Going back to the Living Vampire himself, though, and everything from leaked plot details to what little footage has been revealed makes this sound like 2018's Venom, only worse.
 

7. Black Widow

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This is a Marvel Studios movie and, usually, that alone is enough to get us excited. However, no matter how much is revealed about Black Widow, it just doesn't sound entirely necessary! 

Set between the events of Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Infinity War, the spinoff promises to fill in some gaps in Natasha Romanoff's history, but how essential learning more about those actually is remains to be seen, especially when we know how her story ends thanks to Avengers: Endgame

Still, if those theories about the Thunderbolts pan out, then perhaps Black Widow will be a more important movie than first thought and not just a stopgap before more exciting Phase 4 releases.
 

6. Shang-Chi And The Legend Of The Ten Rings

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It feels wrong not placing this one higher, especially when there are a lot of reasons to be excited for Shang-Chi And The Legend Of The Ten Rings. After all, we're getting the big screen debut of the real Mandarin, and that alone makes this one well worth keeping an eye on next summer.

The problem is, we've not seen so much as a single piece of concept art from the movie, never mind stills or footage. As a result, we simply don't know what to expect, and while Marvel Studios has never made casting mistakes in the past, Simu Liu is definitely a newcomer to blockbusters.

Despite all that, don't let Shang-Chi's place on this list fool you; it could prove to be 2021's best comic book adaptations, and it wouldn't surprise us if this is major sleeper hit next year. 
 

5. Venom: Let There Be Carnage

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Honestly, we didn't expect this one to rank above not one, but two Marvel Studios movies either. After all, 2018's Venom was a total mess, and while it was entertaining, it certainly wasn't good. 

This time, though, Andy Serkis is stepping into the director's chair, and that alone is enough to get us excited. The filmmaker has worked with some of the greatest directors on the planet as an actor, so if he brings even a little of that magic to Venom: Let There Be Carnage, it's good news. 

The prospect of Eddie Brock's Venom squaring off with Woody Harrelson's Carnage is an intriguing one, and should make this worth watching even if you have no faith in it being any better than Venom!
 

4. Eternals

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Eternals was supposed to arrive in theaters earlier this month, but like Black Widow, it's been delayed by an entire year. That's heartbreaking, especially when we know the movie is pretty much done (in fact, you have to believe Marvel Studios has been sitting on that trailer since the Spring). 

Concept art, leaked promo art, and even set photos have got us massively hyped for this Marvel Studios movie, though, and with it set to explore the history of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it's clearly going to end up being something special. It also sounds a lot like Eternals will be used to lay the groundwork for a new era of storytelling, including the introduction of mutants. 

Time will tell on that front, of course, but Celestials coming to Earth and the Eternals stepping out of the shadows is going to be huge, and adds a lot of great characters to this shared world. 
 

3. The Suicide Squad

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James Gunn's "break" from the Marvel Cinematic Universe means he's had time to make The Suicide Squad and a companion TV series, Peacemaker, which is coming to HBO Max at some point.

A traditional trailer hasn't been revealed for the former just yet, but the sizzle reel and character reveal teaser from DC FanDome is more than enough to safely say this is going to be something special. Between the phenomenal cast and Gunn's trademark humour/visuals, how can you not be psyched? 

The prevailing theory right now is that Task Force X will be taking on Starro, but with Gunn sticking closely to the comic books and willing to kill these "villains," August can't get here soon enough.
 

2. Zack Snyder's Justice League

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Yes, it's being presented as a miniseries, but Zack Snyder's Justice League is still very much a movie. Now, those of you who hate the filmmaker's vision for the DC Extended Universe probably aren't remotely excited for this one, but for everyone else, it's going to be a lot of fun seeing what Snyder originally had planned for this superhero team (and how it compares to Joss Whedon's vision).

This is going to be a completely separate movie, with characters like Darkseid, Desaad, and The Joker all set to make an impact alongside a redesigned Steppenwolf. Between that and more "Knightmare" scenes, the similarities between the two versions of Justice League will likely be minimal. 

As a result, it's hard not to get excited. There's every chance it will be a disappointment, of course, but it can't really be any worse than the last time the League assembled on the big screen. However, we have an inkling that this could blow everyone away and prove Warner Bros. was wrong to doubt Snyder (we're even going to see Martian Manhunter in a movie for the first time ever).
 

1. Spider-Man 3

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At this point, there are more rumours and theories about Spider-Man 3 than there are actual plot details. It certainly has all the makings of a "Spider-Verse" movie (especially with Doctor Strange's confirmed involvement), but there's every chance it won't be quite as ambitious or far-reaching as that. 

Even if Peter Parker doesn't come face-to-face with alternate versions of himself - and Miles Morales, who is long overdue for a live-action debut - how can you not be counting down the days? 

Spider-Man: Far From Home ended on a massive cliffhanger when Mysterio outed Spider-Man's secret identity to the world and framed Peter for his "murder." That's going to completely change how Spidey fits into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and with Sony Pictures keen to start using the web-slinger in their movies too, Spider-Man 3 could be a game-changer in more ways than one.
 

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RokoVII
RokoVII - 1/4/2021, 3:53 AM
Sooooo it won't conclude in a truly definitive fashion but wont lead to anything further down the road?


Origame
Origame - 1/4/2021, 5:19 AM
@RokoVII - well yes. It was written to be the first of 2 parts.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/4/2021, 5:26 AM
@RokoVII - pretty much, it will end like whedons cut....same begonning/end just differ middle
RokoVII
RokoVII - 1/4/2021, 5:33 AM
@Origame - well originally yes, but Snyder surely could have changed the ending to be more definitive while filming new material in october.
Anywayzzz..dont wanna get my hopes up but maybe the movie will be atleast ok
RokoVII
RokoVII - 1/4/2021, 5:37 AM
@mastakilla39 - yeah not expecting a totally different movie but still hope its atleast ok
Origame
Origame - 1/4/2021, 9:34 AM
@RokoVII - idk. I think this way we get the full vision of what he planned for the film, then the comic will show us what his plans moving forward were.
Mugens
Mugens - 1/4/2021, 3:55 AM
While I'm not at all desperate or hard up to see this version of JL, although it would be hard not to be better than the theatrical release, I will be watching and glad when it does premiere so we can hopefully, and I stress hopefully, put all this to rest. Not banking on it though.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/4/2021, 4:04 AM
@Mugens - It won't be put to rest.

1. No matter how good or bad it is, the Snyder Fans that have been preaching for years about this version will be everywhere talking about how great this version is and how right they were this entire time.

2. There's no way in Hell Snyder doesn't start campaigning to continue his story. I mean, in a way its already started with talks of Leto wanting to do a Snyder led Joker movie, and Snyder talking about doing a comic sequel. Which, will only be a matter of time before he changes that campaign to a film sequel.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/4/2021, 4:07 AM
@Mugens - Also, don't think for a second that he's not leaving it open ended for a reason. He's totally doing that to keep his cult wanting more so they will back him up on his campaign to make more JL movies.
CheeseMaker
CheeseMaker - 1/4/2021, 4:18 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I like Snyder but some of his cult fans are borderline delusional. The other day I saw a guy crapping on Walter Hamada just because he called the JL Snyder Cut a one off.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/4/2021, 4:55 AM
@CheeseMaker - Yeah. Bit at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they were able to get a sequel made. I mean, WB was willing to soend another 70 million for the Snyder Cut. If it does well and Snyder and his cult make enough noise about a sequel, who knows what will hapoen.
Blergh
Blergh - 1/4/2021, 4:00 AM
Of course it does, Zack will sequel bait and have his fan base force a sequel into existence.

It's going to happen, this borderline cult will annoy us with "Zacks masterpiece" for the coming years until WB caves in and makes it.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/4/2021, 4:06 AM
@Blergh - Haha. Thats exactly right.
CheeseMaker
CheeseMaker - 1/4/2021, 4:11 AM
@Blergh - Well the movie was always meant to end with a cliffhanger since Snyder always had envisioned this as Part 1 of three parts but you could make the case that he could have altered the ending so it won't lead to future sequels. So, I'll give it to you that one lol
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 1/4/2021, 4:10 AM
I mean, wouldn't this make sense? This was planned to be a part 1 of a 2 part movie. I just assumed the Snyder Cut was going to restore and add a bit to what was originally as planned. This would also jive with what Hamada stating that this movie is a dead-end road, just to prepare people for the idea that they will not be following up with a sequel/part 2.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/4/2021, 4:57 AM
@JoeInTheBox - Kind of. But being that he added scenes to this version and he knew this would be a one and done thing, he could hace easily ended it with closure. He chose not to.
Kumkani
Kumkani - 1/4/2021, 4:12 AM
"You can keep f***ing going with the story based on what I've heard from a friend."

In other words, his source is: Trust me, bro.
manofillintent1
manofillintent1 - 1/4/2021, 4:16 AM
The Snyder fans will never be satisfied they’re already calling for a trilogy and talk as if they’re owed this, I’m glad Zack got to do this but the hashtags and calls for the Snyder verse will NEVER end
lordSTALE
lordSTALE - 1/4/2021, 5:30 AM
@manofillintent1 - "Give a mouse a cookie..."

You should never give into a toxic fandom's demands

They harassed WB and its employees for years and got EXACTLY what they wanted, so what did WB think they'd do if they saw that harassment would work out so perfectly? Demands for an Ayer cut and Snyder Cut sequels seemed the next obvious step to me 🤷🏽‍♂️
Blergh
Blergh - 1/4/2021, 5:40 AM
@manofillintent1 - let's get real here: they achieved what no fan base ever achieved: they bullied a studio to give them what they want, no matter how financially implausible the decision.

They got a bigger ego now
manofillintent1
manofillintent1 - 1/4/2021, 6:32 AM
@Blergh - I find them both annoying and fascinating, like seriously what is it about those 2 movies that makes them act the way they do, like they made a whole “movement” lol there’s really been nothing like it, I don’t think
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