Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige Seriously Considered Jumping Ship To DC During MCU's Phase 2

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige Seriously Considered Jumping Ship To DC During MCU's Phase 2

Believe it or not, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige is said to have seriously considered making the leap to DC when he was growing increasingly frustrated with Marvel Entertainment's leadership...

By JoshWilding - Jun 03, 2022 07:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: Puck

When Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige had to report to Marvel Entertainment's Isaac Perlmutter, life was far from easy for the executive. The notoriously stingy CEO made life difficult on a number of levels, pushing a bumbling Creative Committee on Feige along with movies he didn't want to make (Inhumans) and cutting costs in ways that damaged those early blockbusters. 

Eventually, Feige would ask then Disney CEO Bob Iger to make Marvel Studios its own separate entity. He obliged, and big changes followed. A report from Puck, however, reveals that Feige became so frustrated during Phase 2 that he considered making the jump to the Distinguished Competition. 

Talking about the changes taking place at Warner Bros. Discovery, insider Matthew Belloni reveals, "[David] Zaslav could make another run at Feige, who, I’m told, talked pretty seriously with Warners a few years ago when he was angling to escape the oversight of Marvel’s then-madman C.E.O. Ike Perlmutter."

Can you imagine?

The DC Extended Universe would be both considerably better and vastly more successful with Feige in charge, and we could have actually had a shared world with all those characters by now. What would have become of the MCU is hard to say, but based on Marvel Television's efforts, it wouldn't have been great. 

Now, as Marvel Studios continues to go from strength to strength, the DCEU remains in flux with no clear direction or plan moving forward. 

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Watchingme
Watchingme - 6/3/2022, 7:44 PM
Poor dc missed out. Couldnt have turned your shit shack into a marble mansion.
dracula
dracula - 6/3/2022, 7:44 PM
Well luckily disney made the write call spliting marvel studios from marvel entertainment
dracula
dracula - 6/3/2022, 7:48 PM
DC already has producers that could do it with a decent budget, not even talking paul dini and bruce timm.

jim krieg and kimberly moreau
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been knocking out of the park, with only one of the stoires being a mostly direct adaption of an existing story. get them to head DC films
mrbioshock1984
mrbioshock1984 - 6/3/2022, 9:51 PM
@dracula - you know Bruce obsession with Batman having sex with Batgirl. Probably put my bet on Paul 😂
Fogs
Fogs - 6/4/2022, 4:17 AM
@dracula - good call, they should bet on Dini and give him mastermind uber executive producer powers.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 6/3/2022, 7:49 PM
He had to work with Bendis during Phase 2; That'd frustrate anyone.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 6/4/2022, 5:47 PM
@Reeds2Much - Bendis was just on the council of advisors, doubt he had much sway in anything. And he still has my respect for writing Ultimate Spider-Man, that's such a good run.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 6/4/2022, 5:56 PM
@Nightwing1015 - My condolences.
ninerstreet
ninerstreet - 6/3/2022, 7:50 PM
Why Paul Dini and Bruce Timm aren’t running the DCEU is baffling to me. They’re the obvious choice.
PantherKing
PantherKing - 6/3/2022, 7:51 PM
Glad he stuck around because WB might have wasted his talents
Menks123
Menks123 - 6/3/2022, 7:52 PM
Going to WB would be a severe downgrade.

Also, Ike Perlmutter was awful. Racist, Sexist, cheap and only wanted to sell toys. Thank god Iger gave Kevin the keys and his own studio.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/3/2022, 7:53 PM
The MCU was actually tighter with Perlmutter in the mix.
Feige needed someone who would say “no”.
Having nobody to report to does not allow for any self-editing.
And the MCU started to lose a bit of direction in Phase 3, and now it’s alll Feige and the narrative direction in Phase 4 is all over the place.

GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/3/2022, 7:54 PM
@SpaceParanoids - he reported to Alan Horn
DCasAhobby
DCasAhobby - 6/3/2022, 7:55 PM
@SpaceParanoids - lol still running this imaginary narrative i see
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/3/2022, 8:00 PM
@BO31 - Still? There actually was a narrative direction to Phases 1 and 2 and a lesser one in phase 3, but the overall narrative was maintained at least.

What do you think I mean by narrative?
dracula
dracula - 6/3/2022, 8:04 PM
@SpaceParanoids - phase 3 for sure felt like a less consistent world, but phase 3 was more consistent in terms of quality
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/3/2022, 8:11 PM
@dracula - Somewhat when it came to Infinity War, Spider-Man Homecoming and Ragnarok.

Black Panther was just okay.
Captain Marvel was awful.

Doctor Strange felt rushed.

I think Phase 3 is where it started to lose its way.
But the set up in Phases 1 and 2 helped carry some of that narrative into 3.

Phase 4 is just a mess.
dracula
dracula - 6/3/2022, 8:18 PM
@SpaceParanoids - agree on Captain Marvel, like I said its more consistent, didn't say every movie was an a+
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 6/3/2022, 8:39 PM
@SpaceParanoids - black panther ok? it was atleast great
Doctor Strange was as rushed as the first antman
even Captain Marvel was just ok
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/3/2022, 10:34 PM
@Superheromoviefan - I say the first act of Black Panther was great. The second act was so-so. The third act was a mess.
It should have been so much better.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 6/4/2022, 12:24 AM
@SpaceParanoids - So are you really just gonna conveniently ignore the fact that Civil War not only was in Phase 3, but it was the film that if Ike had his way never would have happened because he didn't want to pay RDJ and wanted smaller budgets overall?


Imagine Feige trying to pull off Infinity War and Endgame under Ike's penny pinching thumb. It wouldn't be half of the spectacle it was.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/4/2022, 1:08 AM
@LongMayHeReign - I haven’t ignored anything. While Perlmutter was frugal and also tried to hamper films like Vlack Panther and Captain Marvel all it took was his boss (Iger) to step in and say…we are making those movies.
The same could easily have been done with budget.

But what I am saying is that it’s not good to have one person in charge of everything without a peer to step in and offer feedback. That is why Phase 3 started losing direction and Phase 4 is a mess.
It can also explain why Endgame was a disjointed movie with a lot of issues.

Lucas ran I too a similar issue with the prequels. Nobody told him no and someone probably should have in direction and dialogue.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 6/4/2022, 3:57 AM
@SpaceParanoids -
can you elaborate on why "second act was so-so. The third act was a mess."? bc i cant understand
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 6/4/2022, 6:54 AM
@SpaceParanoids - Perlemutter once stepped in and cut the comics division’s pen and ink (you know, kinda important stuff) budget by 50% as they were putting in the ordering requisitions just to play the ‘make due with less’ chest puffing narrative. Guy is a complete s&@tshow clown shoes, horse’s arse of a human being. Also, read up on his gated community dispute with his neighbor. It is VERY ugly. Iger knew better than to wade into that nonsense and effectively retired his a$$ in order to avoid multiple future longterm headaches. It was absolutely the right call.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/4/2022, 7:12 AM
@SauronthePower - Let’s be honest. You don’t know why he made cuts and the circumstances behind it,
I don’t care about his personal gated community decisions.
But I do know that he was part of the team and one of the main deciding factors in that incredibly tight Phase 1 of the MCU that set the entire ball in motion,

If not for Perlmutter and Feige combined we wouldn’t have what we have today.
And all I am saying is that Feige needs that person who has the ability to say “no” so as to better focus his direction and the direction of the product,
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/4/2022, 7:23 AM
@Superheromoviefan - It’s a long explanation because I look at films and evaluate them on more than just surface entertainment, visuals and action.

To try and keep it very brief…

- They made T’Challa our to be weak. Without the purple flower he got whooped and nearly lost to M’Baku and did get beat by Killmonger.
- Coogler rushed through Killmonger’s ascension to the throne and take over of Wakanda.
- Then it instantly went into Full “take over the world” mode with no real development,

Third Act
- Story structure was disjointed.
- The resolution was predictable.
- CGI was horrible in the final battle
- and then logically if Killmonger destroyed all of the purple flowers except one on e then used the last flower that Nakia saved….there is no way for T’Challa to have his powers taken away Ian’s returned after the next challenge to his throne.

It all falls back on story:

These are just a very few of the problems:
It was an okay film, but could have benefited from a much tighter script and story structure along with better character development of Killmonger.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 6/4/2022, 10:06 AM
@SpaceParanoids -
- tchalla wasnt weak. mbaku is a strong warrior and even in the comics Killmonger defeated tchalla. is your believe on strong someone who defeats everyone without trouble?
- um, thats how it happens in monarchy. its not democracy
- he didnt want to take over the world, he wanted to give weapons and supplies to militias that he supports. he wouldnt be their boss

- "Story structure was disjointed" this is generalization.
- "predictable resolution"? well, welcome to comicbook movies where 99% is predictable. winter soldier, civil war etc are all predictable. and predictable isnt bad, it only stops it from being the best.
- CGI was definitely problematic
- um, they might have burn the flowers, but doesnt that mean it will take a long time to regrow them? i am pretty sure they are grow from vibrenium and as long they have it they can grow them back.

i dont know, Killmonger is one of the best mcu villains so disliking his "character development" is like disliking joker's character development in the dark knight
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/4/2022, 11:09 AM
@Superheromoviefan - Look, It’s very obvious that you are a tremendous fan of the Black Panther movie so that disqualifies you from being unbiased.
I look at the film objectively. I hold no bias.

If you like it more power to you, but it has a lot of problems both structurally and in character development.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 6/4/2022, 11:25 AM
@SpaceParanoids - um, no, while i like black panther, but its not even on my top 5 mcu. im just not a hater, which no offense you seem to be bc your criticisms are not good enough for nitpicking. especially the flowers complain. its an almost braindead criticism.

If you dont like it more power to you, but it has very few problems, its great both structurally and in character development .
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/4/2022, 4:58 PM
@Superheromoviefan - When people automatically label someone who dares critique a movie a “hater” that not only invalidates your argument but it also tips your hand. No matter how you try to deny it it’s quite transparent that your fandom causes your bias.

It’s just a movie. We all have opinions. You’ll be okay.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 6/4/2022, 5:05 PM
@SpaceParanoids - i label you a hater after you first label me a bias blind fanboy
so, spare me your grandstanding bs
JonC
JonC - 6/4/2022, 5:45 PM
@SpaceParanoids - well to be honest, phase 1, etc was going no where but the eventual Avengers team up movie to tackle one dude... and only presented characters that would eventually be in that group.
As the MCU universe gets far larger in heroes and villains and landscapes it will be far harder to present a single villain that could attack it all at once. We will see multiple narratives going on simultaneously as the scope of the MCU expands.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/4/2022, 8:56 PM
@Superheromoviefan - I never once used those words nor did I imply them. That’s what you inferred, and that coupled with your attempt at an insult is far more telling than you think.
krayzeman
krayzeman - 6/4/2022, 10:54 PM
@SpaceParanoids - Perlmutter had to go. He said Black Panther would never work. Had to go. Sometimes people can take you all the way to the mountain top. Perlmutter did his job getting Marvel there but his creative decisions were hampering. Disney had Michael Jordan in Kevin Feige and it was time to take the shackles off and let Fiege loose. As far as Phase 4 being a mess the MCU is still doin it better than any other comic book property on screen now. Take Batman away from DC and what do they got? I still prefer Phase 4 and all it’s flaws.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 6/5/2022, 3:51 AM
@SpaceParanoids -
"you are a tremendous fan of the Black Panther movie so that disqualifies you from being unbiased"
you did imply it. cut the dishonesty and projection
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