Is It Too Late to Solve Marvel's Disney Plus Problem?

Is It Too Late to Solve Marvel's Disney Plus Problem?

Why do the Marvel Disney+ shows still seem to not have found their footing 4 years in? I dive into what I think is going on and what needs to be done to fix it.

Editorial Opinion
By SpideyPuffsMJ - Jul 10, 2025 11:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel

In the Beginning, There Was WandaVision

Wandavision was released way back in 2021. It marked the beginning of a new era — or experiment — in the MCU: long-form television series directly connected to the movies. This slate came out swinging, and I think Marvel knew what they had on their hands. Wandavision released confidently and holds a 92% on Rotten Tomatoes. It had an interesting premise, a stellar cast, and — most importantly — it gave the spotlight to a character who hadn’t starred in her own movie yet. Remember that one. With Wandavision out and generating buzz, Marvel and Disney must have been thrilled about the dozens of other shows they had lined up for the future.

Similar to Wandavision, Loki premiered in 2021 to both critical and fan acclaim. It was a smart sci-fi series that introduced new characters and concepts to the MCU, wrapped in beautifully designed sets and stylish cinematography.

More, MORE, MORE!!!

Around this time — also during the COVID-19 pandemic — Bob Chapek took over as CEO of The Walt Disney Company from his predecessor, Bob Iger. Chapek was on record with a strategy focused on increased content production for Disney+, the home of these MCU shows. He oversaw the integration of Hulu and announced an ambitious slate of superhero series to flood the Disney+ homepage. This was still a fledgling streaming service, and it desperately needed original content following the success of its flagship show, The Mandalorian. The plan seemed simple enough: give the people more of what they like. Marvel movies had been famously successful — so why wouldn’t interconnected streaming series work just as well?

Without breaking down the Disney+ release timeline brick by brick, I’ll lay out a pattern that should’ve been troubling for Marvel, Disney, and its board. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (2021) dropped to less than half the viewership numbers of WandaVision. The rest of the slate revealed a telling trend. While Marvel continued to cast talented — and sometimes A-list — stars like Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke for Moon Knight, Disney+ increasingly felt like a “void” for characters not quite strong enough to carry their own movie. Characters like Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Werewolf by Night, Agatha Harkness, Echo, and Ironheart were suddenly carrying the weight of the MCU’s future. In hindsight, it’s easy to see why this risk didn’t pay off the same way the movies did. Introducing B- or C-list characters to general audiences is a much tougher sell.

“It’s All Connected!” — or Isolating the General Audience

Shows like Moon Knight, Hawkeye, and Loki Season 2 were highlights of the past few years — but even they had their problems. And many of the other releases simply didn’t resonate with fans, let alone the general public. This, I believe, is the heart of the issue.

Marvel movies drew in audiences across all demographics. Families, kids, adults, seniors — they’d all go to theaters together to see these characters on the big screen. But when you need to pull them in from the comfort of their couch, the Marvel Studios logo alone might not be enough to convince grandpa to watch Echo or Secret Invasion. I could write an entire article on how terrible the writing, CGI, and character waste was in Secret Invasion — but I won’t.

The problem, in part, is Disney+.

For years, I knew Disney+ as the streamer that had The Mandalorian, which released once every two years or so — and then my parents would forget they had a subscription and only use it to put on kids’ shows for their grandkids. Aside from that, the MCU shows would release, the ComicBookMovie.com community would watch, analyze, and review them… but after WandaVision, none of them felt like "water cooler shows" that got the public talking week after week.

For a multitude of reasons, Disney+ never reached the level of cultural penetration that Netflix did — where most American households had a subscription and regularly used it. This is part of why Daredevil and Jessica Jones on Netflix seemed to capture a much broader audience. They were fresh, mature, and accessible. Now Daredevil is back and rated TV-MA — but it sticks out like a sore thumb on Disney+, especially if you ignore Hulu’s content. It’s being served up next to children’s cartoons. And even with Disney’s push, I’ve read that Daredevil: Born Again didn’t hit the viewership numbers they’d hoped for. The show itself also fell short in terms of quality.

Marvel’s Disney+ problem can be summed up as a strategy of “Quantity over Quality” (something they’re reportedly trying to course-correct) and making these shows mandatory viewing in order to understand new theatrical releases. Brie Larson is an Oscar-winning actress — maybe it wasn’t the best idea to saddle her sequel with two characters introduced in streaming shows that half the audience hadn’t seen (The Marvels, 2023).

What's Next?

My personal concern is that while Kevin Feige and Marvel have acknowledged some of these missteps, they still seem obligated to finish what they started. Ironheart just released to tepid reception. Daredevil: Born Again was a chopped-up mess but is already promised a second season. Agatha All Along, Echo, and She-Hulk have left new characters and plot threads dangling — with a real possibility that they’ll never be revisited, or only show up again in another forgettable outing from some side character.

With Wonder Man set to release next — featuring fan-favorite wasted Ben Kingsley character “Trevor” (sigh) — Marvel can only do so much to fix what’s already been filmed and invested in. Here’s hoping Bob Iger steers the ship back toward a cinematic direction focused on event movies and sparingly used TV shows. There’s only so much goodwill left before even the most loyal fans start to admit: Kevin Feige may be responsible for this mixed bag of the past two MCU phases.

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TheShellyMan
TheShellyMan - 7/10/2025, 12:01 PM
The damage has been done.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 7/10/2025, 12:07 PM
@TheShellyMan - User Comment Image
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/10/2025, 12:01 PM
Nope. I rarely use it at all and contemplating on not renewing
Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/10/2025, 4:19 PM
@vectorsigma -
Because most of the MCU and Star Wars is imminently rewatchable I am there regularly. Sorely disappointed with most of the recent D+ content though and dude’s right. They thought people would buy anything with a a Marvel on it but that’s just not the case. Now it has to be good
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/10/2025, 9:14 PM
@Goldboink - funny i started my subscription after endgame and was expecting good things from Marvel

The rest is history
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/10/2025, 12:04 PM
I use Disney+ plus(on pause right now), but I almost never watch anything Marvel related.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/10/2025, 12:04 PM
Marvel's issue is they are introducing key components and key characters on Disney+ and building a movie sequel from it. When the general audience watches the movie they have no idea what is going on and why it's happening. Disney+ needs to just be filler stories. Mephisto while introduced in Iron Heart, Needs to be introduced again in a movie to allow the general audience to get to know him.
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 7/10/2025, 12:08 PM
Yes, far too late. Not enough people care anymore.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 7/10/2025, 12:09 PM
If we got one show a year that was on the same level as WandaVision, then no one would have any issues with it. Instead, we ended up getting 3-4 mediocre ones that added little value to the overall franchise.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 7/10/2025, 12:28 PM
Is there a problem? Yes
Is it too late to fix it? No
Back to you Bob.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/10/2025, 12:33 PM
Tepid response to Ironheart? 🤔 How do we objectively come to that conclusion?

It has a very positive reception on everyone’s precious Rotten Tomatoes, is the number one show on Disney+, was the number one show on Television Stats, beating out shows like The Bear, Squid Game, and Love Island for a couple days — and talk about it was blowing up Twitter, despite some vocal minorities calling it ‘ghetto’ with their coded language.

Also, what did you expect, for them to cancel the show that introduced Mephisto?

Marvel doesn’t have a Disney+ problem. Just tell smaller stories.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 7/10/2025, 12:50 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Fair enough. There’s plenty of anecdotal speak going on here. Mostly because I don’t trust streaming numbers personally. I think the average person would have no idea what Ironheart is if asked, while the Bear is one of the most popular shows out there and on its 4th season. I think the problem is that Mephisto is being introduced in a streaming series in the first place. We will need an awkward re-introduction when he inevitably pops up in a film for the general audience.
YouIknowiamsexy
YouIknowiamsexy - 7/10/2025, 1:35 PM
@MyCoolYoung - What?! In NO universe did IronHeart beat Squid games in anything. Stop it.............
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/10/2025, 3:46 PM
@YouIknowiamsexy - people like talking out of their ass. I listed television stats where it was number 1 multiple days. Whatever you say sexy man
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/10/2025, 3:50 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - your opinion doesn’t mean much to facts and I don’t say that disparagingly. If I asked my wife what the bear was she would have no clue. Would that mean the bear isn’t popular? No. Two things can be true. Ironheart went number 1 and it’s easy to say it’s a Disney plus show or MCU it’s not an accomplishment but daredevil never went number 1.

People on here are way more negative than the rest of the world about everything. I would never use anything here as a reference
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 7/10/2025, 5:24 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - I do agree the reintroductions into the movies would be very awkward. A lot of exposition trying to recap what happened on the shows in 2 minutes. But Mephisto was pretty self-contained. If he showed up in a Spider-Man brand new day, he could easily say "I've resurrected people before" or "I've made deals with young geniuses before" and keep it pushing.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/10/2025, 12:44 PM

Half of the D+ shows are garbage. Can they save it? Only if they stop pooping out junk D-list character shows.

Ms Marvel, Agatha, Ironheart, Wonder Man?? What a pile of who cares crap.



Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/10/2025, 4:22 PM
@DocSpock -
Agatha is a good show and perfect for the medium
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/10/2025, 4:47 PM
@Goldboink -

I think Agatha was terrible, but I respect your different opinion.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/10/2025, 5:32 PM
@DocSpock -
We all have our opinions and tastes certainly differ.

One thing that people have been nibbling around the edges of is that both the movies and shows require characters and actors that people want to hang around with. That was Downey and Evans and Hemsworth and Sam Jackson. Those characters were interesting and had depth and they were all well handled. The big fail in Phase 5 is that they really haven't hit on that. It was supposed to be Chadwick Boseman and Black Panther but tragedy derailed that. The sad fact is that nobody wants to hang with Shuri for a whole movie.

Totally understandable that folks might not want to hang with Agatha for 5 hours and the same can be said for She-Hulk, which I also enjoyed (but not enough to rewatch). D+ is rife with shows, characters and actors that don't have wide appeal. Both FF and Supes will succeed or fail based on that criteria as well.
Spike101
Spike101 - 7/10/2025, 5:36 PM
@DocSpock - totally agree, it’s definitely one of the worst and typifies the problem with most of the shows.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 7/10/2025, 6:09 PM
@Goldboink -

I strongly agree with you on these points.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 7/10/2025, 12:47 PM
They didn't hire people who knew how to write for TV, they also didn't hire people who knew how to write ineresting stories and more importantly likable characters. The brand is too tainted, at this point you need a full creative overhaul, not just with the writing, you need to makes the new stuff actually look different, if it just looks the same as the others, it will be lumped in with the rest and people wont even give it a shot. You've just burned away too much good will.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 7/10/2025, 12:57 PM
Too late? Not necessarily. But they need to get their crap together if its ever going to have a chance. And it all starts with making shows about characters people actually want to watch.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 7/10/2025, 1:03 PM
Thanks for posting @NateBest !
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 7/10/2025, 2:10 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - Good article. Two other systemic issues. First, as each year passed, the quality decline in MCU film was hurting D+ while quality decline in D+ was hurting MCU film. It was a vicious cycle, a death spiral. If an MCU film wasn't well received (example, The Eternals), it takes a slug of audience goodwill out of the very next D+ show on the schedule. And if a D+ show wasn't well received (example, She-Hulk), it's an upper cut to the next MCU film. The root cause for both was bad writing + bad casting (much of it pushed by DEI quotas). The second systemic issue is that writing for TV is not the same as writing for film. Marvel Studios is a film studio, not a TV studio. You can't bullshit your way in television using film teams.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 7/10/2025, 3:00 PM
@GeneralZod - agree
NateBest
NateBest - 7/10/2025, 7:29 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - Thank YOU for posting! 🥳
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/10/2025, 1:14 PM
It's too late to do anything about it for the rest of the current Saga. They may as well lean into it and have lots of cameos from the TV stars in Doomsday and Secret Wars.

But after Secret Wars they should separate the two.
Hard reboot the movies and consign the old continuity to the TV universe. Two universes, a Cinematic Universe and a Disney+ Universe.
dragon316
dragon316 - 7/10/2025, 1:36 PM
Fix it let streaming die as it should happen ?si=vSahl1g1E6fZWI2N
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 7/10/2025, 3:01 PM
Nicely written article.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 7/10/2025, 3:05 PM
@SpideyPuffsMJ - always nice to see new writers

"My personal concern is that while Kevin Feige and Marvel have acknowledged some of these missteps"

Kind of. The model is part of the problem. Everyone thought people would just flock to their streaming service and when the rates went up, it dimished the reason people cut the cord to begin with. Secondly, they put out garbage content. Paramount when you factor in scale has totally outperformed D+.

Iger is just as guilty. The blame gets put on Chapek by Iger was never truly gone. The reason they haven't just gotten rid of it is because of the sunk costs. Like how do you explain that to shareholders? Eventually, I would imagine D+ gets folded into Hulu. Complete ownership of Hulu is one of the undocumented reasons they bought Fox anyway. They want both subs but and have resorted to not reported new D+ subs. IMO, its a matter of time before its just Disney Hulu.
Globaltravel
Globaltravel - 7/10/2025, 4:49 PM
I never realized Disney Plus had a problem? I’m just enjoying the content on Disney Plus and Hulu myself! There is lots of stuff on there to enjoy!
Waifuslayer2
Waifuslayer2 - 7/10/2025, 5:45 PM
When Fantastic Bore flops, it should wake Marvel / Disney out of their stupor. They've been coasting since Endgame and it's time for major change. If the leaks for Doomsday are true, it's too late to fix that mess, but post DD and SW, they'll have no choice but to reboot.

Unfortunately I have zero faith that they'll change for the better, even with a reboot.

D+ is trash and has been since Wandavision shit the bed during its last couple of episodes.
MountBedlam
MountBedlam - 7/10/2025, 7:20 PM
DEI/Woke nonsense nobody asked for is what ruined the MCU shows, it wasn't "Comic book movie fatigue," it wasn't the quantity of shows, no. It was force feeding the general audience woke crap they did not ask for and using legacy characters to force feed the general public this nonsense and that is why most of those shows got tuned out. All of those shows would have been hits had it been 10 years ago before all of the woke nonsense hit the mainstream. You want to know how what i am saying is true, because the same thing happened to all of the woke garbage comic books Marvel tried to force-feed its customers years before the MCU movies and shows. These woke agents are adamant about brainwashing us but we comic book audience are just a little bit too cognizant for the BS. Marvel and the powers that be just don't care. Go woke and go broke as the saying goes.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 7/10/2025, 10:18 PM
The executives got too high on their own supply, they already had a good layout of Comicbook runs and Massive Crossovers with Michael Brian Bendis( New Avengers, Dissasembled, Secret Invasión, Siege) mixed with Jonathan Hickman's AVENGERS Iluminati, SHIELD and F4 cómics. ) but nope they thought the Marvel Comitte had to go and screenwriters ideas were better ) 🤣
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 7/11/2025, 1:51 AM
If we had one or two shows a year that ran much longer it might be enough to draw some interest if they have some absolute bangers.

But as it stands now with the creative team around D+ Marvel, I just don’t see it happening
grif
grif - 7/11/2025, 4:13 PM
lost cause. expect more crap


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