MCU Rumor Roundup: SPIDER-MAN's Marvel Studios Future, News On NOVA, And A Magical SCARLET WITCH Update

MCU Rumor Roundup: SPIDER-MAN's Marvel Studios Future, News On NOVA, And A Magical SCARLET WITCH Update

In our latest MCU rumour roundup, we bring you news on Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures Spider-Man franchise plans, intel on the Nova and Vision TV shows, and a big update on a certain fan-favourite witch.

By JoshWilding - Sep 19, 2024 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios

We've been waiting for official Spider-Man 4 news since, well, pretty much when Spider-Man: No Way Home was released in 2021. That finally came last week when it was revealed that Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton will helm the movie. 

Following the revelation that Knull will be unleashed in Venom: The Last Dance, it's been reported that Sony Pictures got its way by making the wall-crawler's next MCU adventure a Multiversal epic co-starring Tom Hardy's Eddie Brock.

Spider-Man: No Way Home grossed just shy of $2 billion, so of course the studio would prefer to reunite Tom Holland's Peter Parker with Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's Spider-Men for a team-up with Venom (Marvel Studios' supposed preferred plan was for a streel-level team-up pitting Spidey and Daredevil against The Kingpin). 

As disappointed as many of you might be about that change in plans, according to scooper Daniel Richtman, Marvel Studios and Sony are working on a new deal which will allow Spider-Man to appear in more MCU movies. 

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige, meanwhile, is set to remain in charge of the new trilogy as he was with Spider-Man: Homecoming, Spider-Man: Far From Home, and Spider-Man: No Way Home

This is in the best interest of both the character and Sony; after all, we're sure they're banking on a possible Venom 4 being a massive hit after the character crosses paths with Holland's fan-favourite web-slinger. Regardless, the current expectation is that Spider-Man 4 will be released smack-bang between Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars.

Richtman has also claimed that Aubrey Plaza's Rio Vidal will appear in more upcoming MCU projects after Agatha All Along and, while the Scarlet Witch movie isn't gearing up to begin shooting anytime soon, it remains in development at Marvel Studios.

Also of note is the leaker's claim that Marvel Television's planned Nova project will focus on the Nova Corps in space and not just the Earthbound Richard Rider or Sam Alexander. 

Finally, we go to The Cosmic Circus as the site has learned that Vision's working title is "Tin Man." That could have multiple meanings and many refer to the show's lead or even James Spader's returning Ultron. 

Alternatively, it may be just a fun nod to The Wizard of Oz that doesn't have any sort of deeper meaning. 

As always, you can let us know your thoughts on these MCU rumours in the comments section below. 

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Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 9/19/2024, 11:13 AM
Sony being sony they only see $$$ in no way home. but fans are craving for spidey to be more mature-lone wolf type of character. He needs to be the real deal spidey in these next incarnation. yes we're done with kiddie friendly spidey movies we're ready for more mature stories for spidey now.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 9/19/2024, 11:25 AM
@Gabimaru - it depends on how they do the story. there are great dramatic mature venom stories in the comics. the symbiote really [frick]s up peter in the comics mentally. now if they are forced to bring the more goofy sony version of venom then this could be just a simple spectacle movie with alot marvel toys but no development in character of the toys. i hope feige can bring a more serious toned venom to the table
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/19/2024, 11:56 AM
@Gabimaru - I agree, but if we're forced to see another team up, I'd rather it be Venom and Spidey than Daredevil fighting kingpin.
Spidey and Venom could have the same kind of relationship as Logan and Deadpool did or like in Cobra Kai with Daniel and Johnny.
TheyDont
TheyDont - 9/19/2024, 12:20 PM
@lazlodaytona - Fuсk that idea.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/19/2024, 2:35 PM
@lazlodaytona -

I agree and disagree with this.

Spidey and Venom should meet as bitter enemies. But I mean after Secret Wars with the real disgraced vengeful savage Eddie Brock Venom, not the lousy Sony Venom.

DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/19/2024, 2:35 PM
@TheyDont -

I am mentally trying to figure out how to do that.

dragon316
dragon316 - 9/19/2024, 3:22 PM
@supermanrex - you mean serious venom how he is now and not goofy funny how he was in lthwal protector comic series
dragon316
dragon316 - 9/19/2024, 3:24 PM
@DocSpock - ?si=krY2o2lUh8iV09oc
Sony venom is comic accuate to lethal protector series with comic accuate look and powers to ultimate venom
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/19/2024, 3:55 PM
@dragon316 -

Don’t care.

The original Venom played out over 2 years was the first and hands down the best.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/20/2024, 12:28 AM
@TheyDont - mature response
NGFB
NGFB - 9/19/2024, 11:14 AM
Yeah but when are they going to make the Power Pack series, and give it an all LGBTQIA2S+furry cast?
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 9/19/2024, 11:14 AM
So... they are building Nova to compete with Lanterns... let's see. It's a corner of the MCU that has been done disservice. Think it would have a lot of potential on the big screen, especially now that they botched one of their cosmic franchises and the other one has seemingly come to an end.

Will catch Agatha later today, but the witch corner of the MCU has me pumped, Wanda should definitely have more projects to shine.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/19/2024, 12:30 PM
@WakandanQueen - I don’t know about disservice (though I know people have mixed feelings on the CM & Skrulls stuff and I have my issues aswell) but just hasn’t really gotta it’s due yet entirely.

Hopefully Nova and future projects change that!!.
The1st
The1st - 9/19/2024, 11:14 AM
He's not Eddie Brock though...he's more like Woody Brock. Too eccentric for my taste, but he's an anti-hero in Sony's SPUNK..er, SPUMC. I guess it could be interesting.

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WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 9/19/2024, 11:16 AM
What a major disappointment

Almost everyone was asking for a Street Level Spiderman with Daredevil

instead we get a Spiderman with Venom no one asked for
supermanrex
supermanrex - 9/19/2024, 11:31 AM
@WakandaTech - NO ONE ASKED FOR???? people been wanting a proper spiderman and venom movie since Holland became spidey. hell since before that!! the problem is sony has made venom a tad too goofy.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 9/19/2024, 11:41 AM
@WakandaTech - clearly someone asked for it, Avi Arad! 🤣🤣🤣
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/20/2024, 6:18 AM
@supermanrex - Oh plenty wanted a Spider-man Venom film done well, just most haven't wanted it to be the Sony version we've had and most prefer the street level first whichever version of Venom as the next step for Peter and build up to to the symbiote storyline.

We'll see if this is all true or not and how it turns out, hopefully we will get the DD teamup at some point at least even if not the next film.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 9/20/2024, 11:24 AM
@Apophis71 - if the spidey/venom story is done well and it actually ties into secret wars which looks like it might giving the placement of release then the street level story would be better served as the second film in the new trilogy. i just dont want to have him team up with an over goofy venom with out of place one liners through the whole film. they need to have this be a heavy movie that goes hard into the how the symbiote [frick]s with people in the end. peter went through hell wearing that symbiote in the comcics. mary jane went through hell and was traumatized by it cause Brock was a dick-bag before he became the anti hero he is now. i worry it will be all spectacle and special effects with no heart. hopefully Feige and Holland will prevent that from happening.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/20/2024, 11:34 AM
@supermanrex - Oh it certainly could work well, I just am worried about if they go with Goofy. If however it is a variant Brock using the same actor and that bit of Venom left behind then they would have room to take it a better route than Sony did on their own.
SATW42
SATW42 - 9/19/2024, 11:25 AM
"Richtman has also claimed that Aubrey Plaza's Rio Vidal will appear in more upcoming MCU projects after Agatha All Along and, while the Scarlet Witch movie isn't gearing up to begin shooting anytime soon, it remains in development at Marvel Studios."

Yeah, she's either black heart, or all those references are a wink wink red herring and she's Mephisto's daughter, Mephista. Or she's just straight up Mephisto.

I know it's a running joke at this point, but with talk of her being in more projects and mephisto being in iron heart, I really do think it's a matter of time.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/19/2024, 11:26 AM
Still holding out hope that the eventual Nova project can somehow feature a stranded Richard Rider after Thanos destroyed Xandar who gets powered up by the Nova Core transferring to his helmet.

If they don’t want to set it in the past, they could have flashbacks to that time while the present day story is Richard and Sam.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 2:00 PM
@mountainman - exactly what I wanna see as well. Maybe over the years Richard has neen rebuilding the Corps, and Sam is one of the first new recruits. Could be a fun mentor-mentee story
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/19/2024, 11:37 AM
Those rumored Spider Man 4 plans…

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Anyway , “Tin Man” is a great working title for the Vision show…

It might even deeper tie into the show thematically since that character wants a heart so this story could be about Vision trying to get that aswell in a way (likely interacting with humanity & such).
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 9/19/2024, 11:42 AM
They could have Tom Hardy's Venom give Holland the symbiote and then Hardy dies or goes back to his universe, basically just going away completely, and in Spidey 5 we get the real Eddie Brock of the MCU and then thats when we get are real serious Venom
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/19/2024, 12:12 PM
@HammerLegFoot - i wouldnt be opposed to that. i cant stand tom hardys eddie... he's not what i expected at all
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 2:03 PM
@HammerLegFoot @MotherGooseUPus - if they do Venom in the MCU, I rather just see a different host. We've seen two different versions of Eddie already. Harry or Scorpion would be more interesting imo.

But if they wanna have Eddie, I don't mind a multiverse story. Rather just see them do Spider-Verse with Maguire & Garfield going up against Venom, Morbius, Kraven and a few others on Battleworld now and get it over with.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/19/2024, 2:52 PM
@bkmeijer1 - personally i wanted the street level movie where we actually See scorpion in some sort of suit designed by Fisk or Allistar who is one of Kingpins henchmen which requires DD help taking out....

i wanted venom to be saved for after secret wars where the symbiote find spidey, he looses it and it goes to the MCU eddie and Venom is a Villian like he is supposed to be... not an anti-hero.... Plus i want a better Venom design
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 2:58 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - that's what I wanted as well. Think they wanna get that Multiverse Spider-Man done in the Multiverse Saga though.

Wouldn't mind it it is as follows though:
- SM4 (2026) featuring Daredevil, Scorpion, Kingpin and Black Cat
- SM5 (2028) featuring the Spider-Bros, Venom, Kraven, Morbius and Madame Web
- SM6 (2030) featuring Miles amd the Sinister Six (Ock, Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker, Mysterio and Ned Leeds as Hobgoblin).
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/19/2024, 3:12 PM
@bkmeijer1 - yea. i hope these are just Rumors and nothing set in stone... i hope fiege puts his foot down on this multiversal spidey stuff... we will have Plenty of that in Avengers. With that said:

i unfortunately think you are right and so thats what they are going for.... if true, and Knull is the big bad, i feel like he will be wasted; isnt he supposed to be a god and like an avengers/universe type threat?

Anyways, i like those 3 movies but i dont see them doing it, which kinda sucks
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 3:22 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - Knull being the villain in my proposed SM5 movie could work if the Spider-Men get back-up from Venom, Morbius and Kraven. Feels balanced enough
BraxtonHicks
BraxtonHicks - 9/19/2024, 11:50 AM
Whatever we get after Secret Wars, is going to be a biggest of let downs unless Marvel starts from scratch at the lowest of the bottom... so many plans is a continuous sequel to iron man when after Secret Wars needs to grasp the feel of beginnings like Iron Man had. If not, it's going to repeat the same mistakes they're making after Endgame.
JohnShaft
JohnShaft - 9/19/2024, 12:19 PM
Personally IMO SONY really has NO CHOICE but to leave Spidey in the MCU. Yada Yada yeah I know as a whole the MCU has been really really weak as of late but it's at least a established Universe. Can ANYONE say that the SONY SSpiderverse is REALLY ready for SM to swing in there for good? Hello Madam Web and Morbius anyone? Kraven is a HUGE question mark. QUESTION, shouldn't SONY have the rights to the KINGPIN as he started out as a SM supporting character ( Which they have all rights to ) before he became DD main villain?
TheRedLeader
TheRedLeader - 9/19/2024, 1:31 PM
Bullshit! Next Spider-Man is a street level history.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/19/2024, 2:04 PM
I kinda hope they change Richard and Same to be Xandarians instead of humans. Not every space hero needs to come from Earth.

As for Spider-Man, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get another MCU-set trilogy with atleast one of them with Maguire & Garfield and one (the same) with Hardy.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/19/2024, 2:17 PM
The MCU Spider-Man movies are basically Sony's Spider-Man teaming up with a Disney MCU character.

Venom is not a Disney MCU character.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 9/20/2024, 6:29 AM
@ObserverIO - According to all rumors and leaks related to the old contract with Sony, yes every Holland Spider-man film is required to feature one titular level MCU lead character involved. That said they don't need to be a main character and could have a lesser supporting role to the SM/V thing if the deal remains the same (ie could be down to fourth behind main teamup character/love interest and villain on a cast list). I just hope it isn't stiil a goofy Venom and still go with the rumored Antman and he is still a clown too as needs to be darker not OTT funny for the next film considering the tonal timing of the film after Doomsday and the post memory wipe place Peter is currently at (still needs some levity, but needs to be well ballanced within a generaly more serious film as he isn't a high school teen anymore).
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/20/2024, 7:24 AM
@Apophis71 - User Comment Image
DocSpock
DocSpock - 9/19/2024, 2:37 PM

I don't like much of this if true.

But I love one thing in it. More Ms. Plaza in the MCU would be GREAT!
CaptainDC
CaptainDC - 9/19/2024, 3:03 PM
If this is true, I may have mixed feelings...

On one hand, Tom Hardy is an incredible actor who I love seeing on-screen. He has major screen presence and has proven he's one of hollywood's best (or at least in that upper tier).

On the other hand, Tom Hardy's Venom is annoying as hell. I can't see him mixing well with the 3 versions of Spider-Man from No Way Home.

Overall, it's puzzling what they're trying to accomplish here. While I loved NWH, it certainly felt like a departure from the original story we were getting in Homecoming and FFH. Here's to hoping they can figure out how to make this new Spiderman and those characters central to the overarching story again.
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