SPIDER-MAN 4 Will Reportedly Feature Spidey Teaming Up With Tom Hardy's VENOM To Battle [SPOILER]

SPIDER-MAN 4 Will Reportedly Feature Spidey Teaming Up With Tom Hardy's VENOM To Battle [SPOILER]

Some major new Spider-Man 4 details have been revealed following today's Venom: The Last Dance trailer and it sounds like the plan is indeed for Tom Holland and Tom Hardy to finally share the screen...

By JoshWilding - Sep 12, 2024 08:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: The Cosmic Circus

Earlier today, Sony Pictures released the final trailer for Venom: The Last Dance. In that, we got a glimpse into the Symbiote Hive Mind and a first look at Knull, God of the Symbiotes. 

Venom and Venom: Let There Be Carnage dropped only a few vague hints about the villain, though he is a natural choice of big bad for the conclusion of a trilogy. However, according to The Cosmic Circus, the upcoming threequel will be just the start for Knull.

According to Alex Perez, he first learned of plans for Knull earlier this year - which he did hint at on social media as far back as April - and heard at the time that he wouldn't be a one-and-done. Apparently, there are still plans to bring the King of Black back in a future project, with the most likely being...

Spider-Man 4

This new report states that the plan is for the Marvel Studios movie to have Tom Holland's Spider-Man and Tom Hardy's Venom team up after Venom: The Last Dance sets the stage for their long-awaited meeting. 

"By the end of Venom: The Last Dance, we may see Eddie Brock cross over into the Marvel Cinematic Universe," the site explains, "with some sources indicating that the recent reshoots in NYC for Venom: The Last Dance has to do with that."

They add, "Not only that, but I’m hearing that the potential villain for this film would be Knull, who is seeking to enshroud the entire multiverse in his darkness following its discovery."

Sony allowing Marvel Studios to use the wall-crawler has made fans happy and produced some of their biggest critical and commercial hits. However, it's meant Peter Parker has been off-limits in movies like Venom and Morbius, a frustrating situation for the studio when they know there's money to be made with crossovers. 

The Multiverse Saga opens the door to that and Spider-Man and Venom setting off on a "side-mission" of sorts between the events of Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars makes sense on several levels. And yes, this means that planned street-level story featuring Daredevil has been sidelined.

Marvel Studios has even laid the groundwork for this with Spider-Man: No Way Home's post-credits scene; a piece of the Symbiote was left behind on Earth-616, giving Eddie a link to that world and a possible way back. Here's hoping Destin Daniel Cretton can make it work!

In Venom: The Last Dance, Tom Hardy returns as Venom, one of Marvel's greatest and most complex characters, for the final film in the trilogy. Eddie and Venom are on the run. Hunted by both of their worlds and with the net closing in, the duo are forced into a devastating decision that will bring the curtains down on Venom and Eddie's last dance.

The movie stars Tom Hardy, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Juno Temple, Peggy Lu, Alanna Ubach, Stephen Graham, and Rhys Ifans. Kelly Marcel directs from a screenplay she wrote, based on a story by Hardy and Marcel. The film is produced by Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, Amy Pascal, Kelly Marcel, Tom Hardy and Hutch Parker.

Venom: The Last Dance will be released in theaters on October 25.

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Whoisholiday
Whoisholiday - 9/12/2024, 8:51 PM
No it won’t.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/12/2024, 9:09 PM
@Whoisholiday - lol...so much for the gruounded NY team up with Daredevil
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 9/13/2024, 2:58 AM
@Whoisholiday - could this be the secret filming Holland himself confirmed he was doing on his instagram?
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 9/13/2024, 7:00 AM
@Whoisholiday - User Comment Image
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/12/2024, 8:51 PM
Total frickin bullshit!
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thedrudo
thedrudo - 9/12/2024, 8:51 PM
Bleh
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/12/2024, 8:52 PM
I'm just going to say it. Everything people didn't like about any Spider-man movie is Sony's fault.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/12/2024, 8:57 PM
@MCUKnight11 - like what?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/12/2024, 9:10 PM
@MCUKnight11 - idk about that but the limitations due to this deal , especially Sony taking characters and thus limiting the ones the movies can use is frustrating
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/12/2024, 9:17 PM
@WruceBayne - zendaya as Mj instead of Hunter Shaffer
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/12/2024, 9:21 PM
@WruceBayne - Forcing Raimi to add unnecessary crap to 3.
Not letting him make 4.
Producing a reboot nobody asked for.
Turning TASM 2 to a commercial for a shared universe.
Do I need to go on?
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/12/2024, 9:31 PM
@MCUKnight11 - besides “Not letting him make 4”, all of those were director choices.
And please, go on.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/12/2024, 9:45 PM
@WruceBayne - actually Raimi just wanted to do Sandman and Harry Goblin but Avi Arad forced him to include Venom

And TASM’s 2 future setup was indeed all studio enforced so it wasn’t all director choices
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/12/2024, 9:50 PM
@WruceBayne - Fired Garfield because of a cold.
Asked for an MCU guest appearance in each movie.
Walked away from the deal after FFH despite making a billion.
Turned NWH from Kraven and Scorpion to Multiverse.
Overworked staff on both Into and Across the spiderverse.
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Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 9/12/2024, 10:09 PM
@MCUKnight11 - agree with most but Disney were the unreasonable ones breaking negotiations after FFH
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 9/13/2024, 1:32 AM
@MCUKnight11 - Not to mention them reportedly forcing Spider-Man 4 to be a multiverse film when both Marvel and the fans want it to be a street-level story.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/13/2024, 2:28 AM
@MCUKnight11 - so what about Spider-Man 1 & 2? Sony had zero input in that? And The Amazing Spider-Man was also a success, Sony had no hand in that?
You can’t say the more liked films of a franchise was do solely because of the director and the lesser liked ones was because of studio interference.
Another superhero movie Raimi directed was Multiverse of Madness and that had nothing to do with Sony and that is one of the least liked movies Marvel has made over the last 20 years.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/13/2024, 2:33 AM
@Malatrova15 - you’re absolutely right! I don’t know what I was thinking. 🤣😂
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/13/2024, 4:15 AM
@WruceBayne - It's only when something becomes an unexpected success that Sony gets involved creatively. Spider-Man was just another film until it hit big. Then they fast-tracked Spider-Man 2.

Into The Spider-verse was just an animated movie that Sony didn't give two shits about until it became a hit and then they started to get involved in the sequel, splitting it up into two movies (the only negative criticism I've heard about the second one was that it felt incomplete). Now they're gonna [frick] up the trilogy by trying to spin it off too much.

They can't let a good thing be a good thing. Case in point: Spider-Man 4.

Oh and we haven't even mentioned the villain movies yet. Let's see...

Venom
Morbius
Venom [frick]ing 2
Madame Web

Check and mate.

TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/13/2024, 6:03 AM
@WruceBayne - where did you get the statustic that MoM is one of the least liked Marvel films over the last 20 years or so?.

Sure , I could understand you saying it’s divisive but idk about that
nightwin6
nightwin6 - 9/13/2024, 10:10 AM
@MCUKnight11 - Fired Garfield because of a cold??? Source?

Walked away from the deal? There was no deal, that was the point! Marvel wanted to rework the deal. It was like Darth Vader at Cloud City and Sony was Lando.

Ypu just mentioned money and turning NWH into multiverse was an unmitigated success! NWH made $800 million more than FFH and is by far Marvel's most successful phase 4 and 5 movie!

Overworked staff? Marvel and other studios have done the exact same thing if you hadn't noticed.
HOTSHOT
HOTSHOT - 9/13/2024, 11:41 AM
@nightwin6 - "turning NWH into multiverse was an unmitigated success!"

Because Marvel hired decent writers and directors for their Spider-Man movies, even when their stuff was starting to struggle (tho nowhere near as low as Sony's lows). That's why they were able to balance multiple villains (something Sony failed with twice), respect all 3 Spider-Men (something Sony [frick]ed up with at one point or another), and delivered a well-told story that connected with people (something their live action endeavors without Kevin Fiege's attachment have been lacking mostly).

The film was a success in SPITE of Sony. Not thanks to them. Because if it were thanks to them, the Venom movies, Madame Web, Morbius, the Amazing Spider-Man films, and Spider-Man 3 would've been critical darlings.

All I can give them currently is the animated movies, and even they've been [frick]ing with the films there as ObservorIO explained.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 9/13/2024, 1:01 PM
@ObserverIO - like I said previously, you can’t say that when a movie doesn’t do well that it’s studio interference and then when that studio has a massive hit like The Spiderverse movies that the studio didn’t give a shit about it.
Sony has definitely been hit or miss when it comes to superhero movies, arguably more miss than hit.
The Venom series has been successful enough to warrant a trilogy, you don’t get that with failures.
Morbius failed, definitely, and Madam Web was done on the “cheap” to keep the rights to Spider-Man that’s why it doesn’t have any big names in it. That’s a business move any successful company would make.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 9/12/2024, 8:56 PM
Let me guess, MTTSH sold Joshua Wilder this bogus rumor?
tb86
tb86 - 9/12/2024, 9:01 PM
Are neither a reliable source?
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/12/2024, 9:33 PM
@tb86 - hell no, you're better off getting comic book scoops from an astrologer
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 9/12/2024, 9:02 PM
Avi Arad :
"For real this time, we promise. The MCU needs us, after all."

You just know, you KNOW that this motherf#cker is arrogant enough to make it seem like he's already making bank with those turds, while at the same time desperate enough to establish a sorely needed connection that he'll make damn sure to claim is actually beneath him.

NWH credits' "visionary" my ass...

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Spoken
Spoken - 9/12/2024, 9:03 PM
@DrReedRichards - BEST F#CKING GIF!!! F#ck Avi Arad!
TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/13/2024, 12:03 AM
@DrReedRichards - amen!
Spoken
Spoken - 9/12/2024, 9:02 PM
That could be interesting. Would make sense since Eddie Brock knows who Spider-Man is.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 9/13/2024, 1:36 AM
@Spoken - wouldn’t the spell have taken that info away from even the Symbiote hive mind?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/12/2024, 9:05 PM
Regardless of whether this is true or not , it’s just funny how all of a sudden everyone and their mother was reporting that Spidey 4 would be a street level story then it became one that had multiversal elements…

However now with the confirmation of Knull in Venom:The Last Dance , it’s this now that I wouldn’t be surprised others run with aswell.

Granted , this could be due to the evolution of the script itself but idk if it would change so radically unless Sony or Marvel wanted to change course.

Anyway we’ll see about this but as someone who hasn’t been a fan of Tom Hardy’s version of Venom , I hope this isn’t true.

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grif
grif - 9/12/2024, 9:11 PM
only saw the first venom and it sucked. why would i want to see them in the same movie?

reboot the mcu


Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/12/2024, 9:18 PM
@grif - so you can spend moni..you love slop
TheCoonII
TheCoonII - 9/12/2024, 9:54 PM
@grif - you do realize that that is LITERALLY WHAT SECRET WARS IS RIGHT
valmic
valmic - 9/12/2024, 9:15 PM
Will be the least profitable Spiderman movie ever.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/12/2024, 9:16 PM
Hardy said he was done after last dance so, yah nah, I don't buy it.
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